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#847585 - 03/17/21 09:13 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Indica seeds [Re: JRM]
#847586 - 03/17/21 09:36 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Are you asking for advice on a seed bank?
We do not sell or allow the sale or exchange of cannabis seeds on this site. If you want to do your own research, the search function for this site will help you dig up historical discussion on all of the various indica, sativa, and indica/sativa hybrids that you can choose from. One can easily find a single indica strain, but there are hundreds, if not thousands of different indica and indica-dominant hybrids out on the market with various flavors, cannabinoid profiles, size/shape/color, etc.
Maybe you can elaborate on your information request so we can better help you out?
Welcome to the Growery btw
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Re: Indica seeds *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: Data]
#847597 - 03/17/21 01:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Indica seeds [Re: JRM]
#847610 - 03/18/21 06:26 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I actually haven't purchased seeds in close to half a decade, so my knowledge is a bit dated. I was hoping to clarify your question, such that other users with more up-to-date knowledge will be more likely to jump into this thread and help out.
Best of luck
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Re: Indica seeds [Re: Data]
#847612 - 03/18/21 12:37 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do you live in America OP? There are a lot of seed banks in the US.
There use to be a vendor on here called gorilla seeds based out of the UK. They no longer sponsor on here but in my opinion they were a good company. I never purchased anything from them but did get free seeds from a contest.
https://www.growery.org/sponsors.php
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Re: Indica seeds *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: Deadkndys420]
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Re: Indica seeds [Re: JRM]
#847621 - 03/19/21 07:01 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Indica seeds *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: yoosername]
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Re: Indica seeds [Re: JRM]
#847624 - 03/19/21 08:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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By dwarf do you just mean strains that don't stretch much? If so, two that come to mind are Bodhi's heavenly hashplant, and Schwaggy's Afghan Skunk F3bx1f1.
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#847627 - 03/19/21 03:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Indica seeds [Re: JRM]
#847633 - 03/19/21 05:47 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh I got you. You're referring to cannabis ruderalis, the autoflower. Here's one that may interest you; https://www.greatlakesgenetics.com/product/twenty20-whiskey-zulu-6-seeds/
Also, that breeder has been doing a series of drops over the past few months at different seed banks. They give away 4 auto fem seeds for the cost of shipping. The one at GLG ended a few days ago, but there's going to be more at different banks. Just go to the twenty 20 mendocino website and sign up for the great American auto race.
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Re: Indica seeds [Re: JRM]
#847642 - 03/21/21 09:24 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok this is going to get a bit more technical than breeding with regs, but basically you designate one female plant to be the pollen donor, and you reverse it's sex with a STS spray. If you do this correctly the sprayed plant will put out pollen sacs and allow you to pollinate the other females with it's pollen. The resulting seeds will all be female.
Other option would be to find some regular autoflower seeds, and use those instead. But it would seem that solid regular auto seeds are difficult to find.
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Re: Indica seeds [Re: yoosername]
#847643 - 03/21/21 09:46 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Or, if you wanted to try some random pollen chucker's gear, you could check out strainly.io
Just use the boxes on the left to filter for autoflower and regular seeds and you should get a few results at least. I think the bigger breeders are against selling regular seeds, mainly because it makes it so easy for people to make more seeds.
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#847644 - 03/21/21 10:36 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Indica seeds [Re: JRM]
#847647 - 03/21/21 12:22 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Most available auto strains are feminized.
With a quick search I was able to find these; https://www.seed-city.com/cannabis-seeds/regular/auto-flowering
You'll want to make sure the strain you pick is both regular, and autoflowering.
I've never ordered from them, but their prices aren't bad. If you order something let me know when you get it?
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#847669 - 03/22/21 08:20 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Indica seeds [Re: JRM]
#847670 - 03/22/21 08:40 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've seen the website, I just don't see the appeal. If I were to bonsai something it would be something fruit bearing like a kiwi vine. The cannabonsai lasts for maybe 3-4 months then it's done, whereas with a tree or vine you can continue to prune and train them for years.
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#847685 - 03/22/21 09:10 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Indica seeds [Re: JRM]
#847687 - 03/24/21 12:34 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Auto seeds are more expensive than photos generally because they are harder to make. You can't set the schedule like you can with photoperiods, you can't keep clones of keeper parents to ensure consistent progeny, you have to continuously grow and select different plants to use for breeding. Also because the demand for seeds is high right now.
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Re: Indica seeds [Re: JRM]
#847690 - 03/24/21 11:37 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Photoperiod plants are normal, non autoflowering plants. A dark period of around 12 hours allows certain hormones to build up, triggering flowering, hence the need for a light cycle timer or proper timing for an outdoor season.
So if I am understanding you correctly, your plan is to grow several autoflowering cannabonsai plants for seed production outdoors?
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#847691 - 03/24/21 01:01 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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#847692 - 03/24/21 03:33 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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The natural light varies during the growing season, which is what the photo period varieties use to gauge the timing of flowering and seed production. If you live in the US (say new England or the midwest), the photo period can be 16+ hrs from sunrise to sunset (and longer until true darkness), and <11 hours towards mid-october.
Auto-flowering varieties do not flower based on photoperiod. They grow in a vegetative state for 3 weeks or so, then automatically switch into flowering, regardless of the length of the day. This limit of time in the vegetative state will ultimately limit the size of the plant, which is typically why these are go-to strains for growers who have limited space and want to keep their plants small.
You're comments about what you want to do are confusing, which probably explains why our answers are confusing you further. Growing cannabis can be very simple, but most people on this forum at least dabble in some of the more basic complexities of growing for personal-use, high quality Marijuana products. You need to describe what it is you wish to accomplish from this effort.
-Are you growing for personal use, for seed, for bulk production, or just to play around and learn about the cannabonsai technique?
-if you are planning to smoke/vape/eat what you grow, how often do you want to have a grow going, and how much do you smoke? This will determine a minimum target yield that you want to shoot for.
- Do you want to be able to keep/maintain your cannabonsai plants for more than a few months? This will help determine what types of strains you can use for this technique.
- if you want to make seed, do you care about preserving the strain-specific genetics or physical characteristics of the original plants? This will determine the methods by which you produce seeds, and will help point you to the right strain and advice.
-Since you are growing outdoors, what is the general location (country if outside of US, state if inside the US) where you'll be growing? Knowing the climate and length of growing season will also factor into a good suggestion for a strain and growing technique.
Thanks.
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Re: Indica seeds [Re: JRM]
#847701 - 03/25/21 06:30 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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JRM said: I found a bank which offers... Indica hybridized dominant seeds but I think that means they are hermaphroditic.
I think you're referring to indica-dominant hybrids. That just means it's a strain with genetics from both indica and saliva strains, but more of the genetic makeup comes from indica strains.
I don't know the actual biological mechanism behind autoflowering, but I know it is time based rather than photoperiod. If you want to keep your plants for multiple seasons, then you don't want autoflower.
So you are trying to grow outdoors, in NE US, using a growing technique that includes low stress and high stress techniques, and will probably involve a decent amount of wire/twine/ribbon wrappings in order to accomplish, in an area that can get quite humid during the grow season.
I would recommend Northern Lights or Early Girl. These are older strains, but they are both known for their forgiving growth and resistance to pests and molds. They also have a short flowering period, which will be a good match to your short growing season (you don't want immature bud/seeds freezing before you can harvest).
And I know for a fact you can easily find non-feminized Northern Lights seeds.
If you're planning on keeping the plants for multiple seasons, keep in mind that cannabis does not drop leaves and go dormant like deciduous trees. In your area, you'll need to bring them indoors and grow them inside over the winter to keep them alive.
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