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 Gasher90
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#844481 - 04/15/20 05:03 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hi all, I’m new to growing and basically i was wondering how much can you defoliate in veg and can you remove fan leaves? They shown their cotyledon leaves the 21st March, and I topped the plants 2 days ago (13th April) and also guys how do you attach photos please, when I try on my phone it’s only showing me my videos in all categories? thanks kindly!
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#844482 - 04/15/20 06:41 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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let it grow, it needs those leaves to collect light to grow
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Re: How much can you defoliate in veg? [Re: phychotron]
#844483 - 04/15/20 07:09 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks ‘Phychotro’, it’s just they are getting bushy and leaves are very close together and touching and blocking light and restricting air movement and was just wondering if it’d do them good or better by allowing more light and allowing more air to circulate but I’ll leave them grow to see how it goes, thanks again!
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Re: How much can you defoliate in veg? [Re: Gasher90]
#844484 - 04/15/20 07:44 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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(Pictures or video below hopefully)
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Re: How much can you defoliate in veg? [Re: Gasher90]
#844496 - 04/15/20 11:12 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks very much for your time and help it’s much appreciated thanks, I’m trying to get photos uploaded but struggling for some reason, but I’ll persevere and get some on.
   
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Re: How much can you defoliate in veg? [Re: Gasher90]
#844503 - 04/16/20 07:52 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Those are way too young to be chopping leaves. The only time I remove leaves at all is when they're more than 50% yellowed or about to fall off anyway. Those fan leaves aren't "blocking light" they are absorbing light and helping them grow. If you're concerned about airflow add another fan.
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Re: How much can you defoliate in veg? [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#844504 - 04/16/20 08:43 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yea man those are looking good. Leave them leaves be 
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Re: How much can you defoliate in veg? [Re: Data]
#844515 - 04/17/20 06:12 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cheers guys it was just leaves where gathering and sticking together and must be causing them to sweat out as when I pull the leaves apart there’s water on them, I’ve got a decent fan in their, its a free standing air conditioning unit which has a split fan, so I’ve got one aimed up and one aimed down, I’ve got one pointing at the light and the other half swinging over the top of plants, the unit fills with water so blows out cold air and gets humidity up, I’ve got it on the lowest setting and I’m getting temps of between 24c-29c and RH of between 50%-58%, I can get these up and down by turning it up or down or turning water on or off etc etc, the fan can be turned up more but I don’t want it like a wind tunnel in their as won’t that cause problems? Thanks very much for the time and help guys
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Re: How much can you defoliate in veg? [Re: Gasher90]
#844516 - 04/17/20 08:40 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Rule of thumb for pruning all plants, remove no more than 25% at a time. I only pick leaves that cause problems. Mature Fan leaves are the biggest energy producers and use the least resources to produce.
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Re: How much can you defoliate in veg? [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#844517 - 04/17/20 08:42 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
bEelzeBosS said:
Those are way too young to be chopping leaves. The only time I remove leaves at all is when they're more than 50% yellowed or about to fall off anyway. Those fan leaves aren't "blocking light" they are absorbing light and helping them grow. If you're concerned about airflow add another fan.
Exactly. Those suckers look light. Give them a dose of fertilizer. Maybe a good foliar feed.
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Re: How much can you defoliate in veg? [Re: Cannabrainz]
#844519 - 04/17/20 09:34 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ahhhhhh, I’ll leave them growing for a little bit longer, at what point do I flip 12/12 for flowering, again I’ve read all kinds some say from seed is fine, I know I’m a bit premature but I’m gonna try and keep a step ahead in my head (orrrrr try to lol) and I’ve taken more photos with the plant out of the tent which I’ll get on as soon as I figure out how to properly (photos above where a fluke) as they obviously aren’t as light as they look above, although some lower fan leaves on them got Neuts poured on them directly a couple of times and also sat on top of the media, so they’re yellow and burnt on tips but it is only a couple of lower leaves, this shouldn’t harm the plant should it? I know it’s bad practice to pour on the plant direct but in my defence I’m actually registered blind due to a rare condition from which I got chemicals in my system from previous job and it took my sight apart from a tiny bit which comes and goes (And that’s my excuse and I’m sticking to it lol) so it’s kinda hard for me and need this as medicine as cannabis oxygenates the blood and I have episodes where I starve of oxygen, so sometimes it’s hard for me to do ALL the research at once and is the reason I ask some stupid questions so my apologies kind people, thanks very much for your time and help, cheers guys!
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Re: How much can you defoliate in veg? [Re: Gasher90]
#844522 - 04/17/20 03:19 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pics below (hopefully), guys do they look better out of the tent? Or do they still look to lightly coloured?
      
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Re: How much can you defoliate in veg? [Re: Gasher90]
#844523 - 04/17/20 03:26 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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The last 2 plant pics shows the leaves looking yellowish it’s pale, the bottom leaves where I poured neut over them are but the others is my grow light hitting them from my unzipped tent, thanks for the help and support guys happy growing!
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Re: How much can you defoliate in veg? [Re: Gasher90]
#844529 - 04/18/20 09:49 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok, it was the light from in tent. They look great. Add oscillating fan to tent, have it blowing leaves around, increasing air circulation always helps.
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Re: How much can you defoliate in veg? [Re: Gasher90]
#844576 - 04/20/20 03:44 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hi cheers mate, I’ve got an oscillating fan in their blowing over and through the plants they’re moving about, do you leave the fan blowing 24/7 just I’ve been turning it off on a night and leaving the plant settle and rest a bit, is this to be left on by any chance mate over night, i can adjust temp and RH slightly if that would help, but what’s seen in the pic (25c and mid 50’s RH) is what it sits at roughly, obviously fluctuates slightly but nothing drastic? Thanks for the help and support!
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Re: How much can you defoliate in veg? [Re: Gasher90]
#844580 - 04/20/20 05:10 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't know how.
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#844582 - 04/20/20 05:45 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah ignore that last one guys I managed to find an answer lol and it’s to stay on! (As long as temps aren’t to low so monitor temps or put oscillating fan on a timer to go off with lights and then come back on half way through dark cycle)
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