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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: poor boy]
    #842086 - 01/13/20 10:19 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

Nobody can think into the future...one can't even think in the present, due to information travel delay and non-zero neural process times, one can only extrapolate past information into future estimates.

You sound like a forum user who got his ratings because of certain...ahem...assets 
:howyoudoing:  :howyoudoing:  :howyoudoing:


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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: poor boy]
    #842097 - 01/13/20 11:11 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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No. You are wrong, sir. With years of experience and gained wisdom one can plan a head in order to prepare for the future. I understand that shit doesn't always go as planned, but that's where problem solving on the fly without stressing and or panicking comes into play.




Planning = extrapolating and estimating an outcome based on known datapoints and observed (past-tense) relationships between those points.

Experience and wisdom =  past datapoints and perceived relationships between past datapoints, respectively.

So you said I was wrong, but then described what you do as what I explained you doing...

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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: poor boy]
    #842100 - 01/13/20 11:23 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

Ok:dawerp:


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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: Amanita86]
    #842155 - 01/13/20 04:40 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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Amanita86 said:
Data has been blinded by his own perceived intelligence.  He’s basically a wandering riddle at this point.



See my sig. :happyweed:

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Welcome to the world of people who have the experience and skill to get a particular job done efficiently not getting the job because someone with some biological trait felt like they should get some ball time even though they couldn’t be bothered to practice.  It’s exactly why this country will fail... we’re using cheap garbage parts to build this thing instead of proven quality parts that are known to work and last.

Xul, you can back me up on this one..



This has always been the case, and I agree with the general statement. It's good to constantly point it out so that we can strive to improve. :highfive:


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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: poor boy]
    #842178 - 01/13/20 05:13 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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You can't back peddle now. You've already been labeled.



What label is that?


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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: poor boy]
    #842182 - 01/13/20 05:34 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

:thumbup: carry on...


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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: XUL]
    #842233 - 01/14/20 04:33 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

ITT we take a simple "it sucks when unqualified women get hired because they have big tits" complaint and wind up concluding that affirmative action is somehow eroding away at a some magical historical period of pure merit-based hiring practices, free from biases toward any ascribed status.

We also somehow managed to drill into a more specific conclusion of "women are inherently incapable of mental/behavioral characteristics that make for good leaders or workers in "manly jobs that require hands and bigbrain".

One is ignoring large portions of human history, leading to large swaths of datapoints missing from one's model, and haven't properly controlled for the effects that those missing datapoints have on one's conclusions.

We thus come around to my original comments. One's predictions about the future and the planning/actions that arise from those predictions are only as good as the input data and the accuracy of the model one has built around that data. When other humans' personhood and thus their access to societal rights/privileges is being considered as a conclusion, one should make sure that the inputs and model are thoroughly vetted :shrug:

By some of the logic I've seen here today, my limited experience with known Trump supporters would force me to conclude that all Trump supporters are sexist white nationalists who lack critical thinking skills and are scared of vegetable proteins. Therefore, I would have to further conclude that none of them should have the right to vote, due to their inherent inability to think for themselves. It could also be concluded that they should be excluded from most leadership positions, since they will ultimately implement racist policies.

Obviously that's not an accurate conclusion, because my dataset is limited and doesn't line up with other data that I have beyond my direct observations. But it offers a different perspective on some of the bs flying around in this thread.

PB, it sucks that this chick got hired above her skill level because some dude liked her looks. It also sucks that she uses her assets to gain unfair advantages and doesnt consider the consequences. Finally, it sucks that such bullshit is making your job more difficult. As I said before, its good to point out this form of cheating in what is advertised as a merit-based hiring practice, because identifying problems is the first step to fixing or reducing reoccurrence.


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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: XUL]
    #842267 - 01/15/20 04:04 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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The vegan burger isn't important.

Women not voting and being involved in politics is simply a cultural tradition that America once enjoyed. Men ran countries and men fought battles. It is the conservation of that tradition. Culture.




So by that logic, do you feel that the once enjoyed cultural tradition of slavery should be conserved? If not, then why is that situation any different from the one you do support?


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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: XUL]
    #842282 - 01/15/20 07:11 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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1/3 people in the south owned slaves. The North did not have slavery economics.

Thus, slavery was not part of my culture and my ancestors from the North fought to free the slaves. Like I said before, I want the best for black people. I just don't want to live in their culture. Nor do I want to force them to live in ours.



As with all of your posts, you dont know what you are talking about.

Slavery was legal in northern states, and registered slaves still existed in northern states until the 1840s.

Additionally, this claim that your culture is bound to your ancestors doesn't jive with your previous posts, claiming that racial demographics were the thing to be controlled if "white culture" was to be preserved. Is it now only those whites that you think are free of racist histories, or ones that you are directly descended from? How can you ensure that one of those "slave economics whites" didn't cross-breed into your lineage? How do you know that one of your ancestors wasn't a slave-owning northerner? How do you define your culture in this way and come to the conclusion that demographics control is the answer?

If you truly believe in demographic control or advocate for a white-majority nation, then you have to include the part of white culture that includes slavery as a historical part of that culture, as is the hostorical denial of the right to vote for anyone but white men who held property. Both of these situations have also been modified by a direct amendment to the constitution. In this context, if you advocate for reinstatement of one situation denying someone rights or services based on an ascribed status, then you must also accept that the other situation denying someone rights or services based on an ascribed status is ok to reinstate.

That, or admit that you want what you want, and you don't care if the argument is logically or ethically sound.

Both situations deny forms basic freedoms that you would rather die than give up yourself, both require justification through generalized and unproven stereotypes toward a whole population, and therefore advocation of either is a form of bigotry, and thus makes you a bigot, and by your own admission. :shrug:


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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: XUL]
    #842311 - 01/16/20 07:17 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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Comprehend my sentence. Economics. The North did not use massive amounts of slaves for their industry. The South did.



And the United states were United up until 1861, and tariff/tax structure ensured that the north benefited from the economic spoils of the south. There was also a free flow of people between various areas of the country. You are again trying to draw imaginary boundaries within racial boundaries. First its "white culture" then its "Christian white culture" and now "northern white culture".

You are cherry picking to legitimize your inconsistent ideologies. :shrug:

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No I don't.

lol




That is very true. But in that case, your opinions are not formulated in logic, or even the semblance of consistent ethics, and are therefore not worthy of further consideration for even dinner table discussion. :shrug:

Lol


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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: XUL]
    #842319 - 01/16/20 08:33 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

You are forgetting the philosophical implications of your ideology.

If you advocate for revoking the ability of women to vote and work in leadership, based on "conservation of my cultural traditions", and also advocate for control of racial demographics based on "conservation of my cultural traditions", then you are identifying your culture group as white culture. You've said this yourself.

Therefore, slavery was a part of the cultural tradition of american white culture, it was pervasive in the colonies at various times, and was eventually abolished, but it existed as part of "white culture's" past, as was denying the vote to women. When you advocate to bring back one historical cultural tradition of discrimination, you invoke precedence to advocate for other historical cultural traditions of discrimination. By admitting that you want one but not the other, you are exposing the lack of consistency in your ideology.

Philosophically, they are one and the same. If you are proposing annulling an amendment or the formation of a new nation, your ideology must at least appear to cover all bases, including philosophical and ethical ones. Otherwise, you can and eventually will lose control of your new utopia to the other facets of "white culture" that you so frequently deny. :shrug:


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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: XUL]
    #842323 - 01/16/20 09:07 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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That makes no sense.

That's like saying traditionalist Muslims have to take the Muslim Arab slave trade into consideration and be slave traders.

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and was eventually abolished




Also part of our culture.

:facepalm3:



Not that they have to be slave traders. Traditionalist muslims take truth directly from the Quran, and the Quran accepts slavery as a part of what is normal. Therefore, one cannot claim that they are a traditionalist Muslim and advocate for the outlawing of slavery, because that goes against the writings of the Quran, and therefore that person would not be a traditionalist muslim.

They are trapped in their own logic, and by definition not allowed to rationalize anything beyond the teachings of the Quran. Just as you logically trap yourself in your contradictory ideals. If you truly propose your ideas as they have been laid out in your posts, then they do not withstand the test of philosophical logic, and are thus vulnerable to misuse by logical people in a hypothetical country founded on your ideas.

:shrug: also please refer to my signature


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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: poor boy]
    #842324 - 01/16/20 09:10 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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Hey! Quit hijacking my thread! Talks of big bubbied chicks with no real exp or gtfo!



Fair enough. Big bellied hipps with no real exp...



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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: poor boy]
    #842343 - 01/16/20 05:57 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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and was eventually abolished




Also part of our culture.

:facepalm3:




:facepalm3:

Cherry picker.



Hey how about STFU about that in this thread, per the request of the OP.

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Hey! Quit hijacking my thread! Talks of big bubbied chicks with no real exp or gtfo!




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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: XUL]
    #842358 - 01/17/20 07:41 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

Start another thread if you want, just get it out of this thread. :shrug:


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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: Mof] * 1
    #842433 - 01/18/20 11:29 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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that's a whole nother spiel im not allowed to get into here, someones panties might get in a bunch



Like I told XUL, take your BS to the dome and start your own thread, or go sign up for stormfront. But at the request of the OP, stay on topic.

Simple as that.:shrug:


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Re: Damn fuck twads [Re: Mof]
    #842446 - 01/19/20 12:31 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

Yea I mean if you're trying to talk about wanting to murder women, or confessing to a murder...then yea that's gonna cause problems. :shrug:


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