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TrueHerbCrystal said:
What type of growing would produce a better quality bud in the end?

Hydroponics with CFL lights only or Soil with HPS lights only?

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You have to remember that you can't use the same wattages. In order to the the same amount of light from a cfl light you have to use a ton more power. 1000watts of cfl might be the same as 250watts of hps or mh light.

You'd need a shitload of cfl light to come close to the HPS or MH. In other-words if you choose cfl light you're bringing a knife to a gunfight.

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TrueHerbCrystal said:
i see.

So an expensive cfl/hydro set up might compete with a cheap hps/soil set up...

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Scribbler said:
How beneficial is it to have CFL's as side lighting? I have 8 CFL's in my tent along with a 600w HPS. Maybe overkill? I dunno...

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Depends on the size of the tent or how much space your trying to light.

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bastard4life said:
Other forums. They all said actual wattage is what matters. Cfls put out less heat btw. I run one all the time... for my aloe plant. I can touch that bulb bare handed and not get burned. It pull 250w you can't touch a 250w hps and not get a burn. RIU.com has tons of side by side grows that average out to the same weight per wattage. ICMag.com also has side by side grows where there is minimal differences in yield. Most people have problems with cfl because they don't put the light close enough. Those t5 systems grow great and there cfls.

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Your 100% wrong on the cfl lights.

Take 250watts of HID light and try and find a 250watt cfl light that is nearly as bright. You can't if the light isn't as bright why is that? CFL lights waste a ton more energy then HID lights simple as that. In order to get as bright as 250watts of HID light you need over 1200watts of cfl light.

So in order to compare the lights you can't go with like wattages. So yeah a 250watts of HID is hotter then 250watts of cfl light but it's also 10 times as bright. So in a small space you can use a 75watt HID light and get the results of a 250watt cfl light.

So yes cfl lights are much hotter to use if you want the same amount of light the HID lights put out cause you have to run a ton more of them for the same results.

CFL bulbs do run hotter but can be touched cause they spread the heat along with the light output over the entire surface of the bulb the main reason they have such crap penetration.

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bastard4life said:
Well thanks for setting me straight. I was given bad info. But I figure this forum knows better anyways.

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Yessir, Growery FTW

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Scribbler said:
How beneficial is it to have CFL's as side lighting? I have 8 CFL's in my tent along with a 600w HPS. Maybe overkill? I dunno...

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Depends on the size of the tent or how much space your trying to light.

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There are 2x23w CFL's under each dome hood in the 2 corners.



just put this in there today 4x23w CFLs

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wendyweed said:
excert from hightimess magazin

http://hightimes.com/grow/the-ultimate-high-times-guide-how-to-hydro/

Advanced Hydro
The larger yields associated with hydroponic growing are directly correlated with faster growth.
“The biggest advantage to hydroponics is the growth rate of the plants,” confirms Joe Bender, chief horticulturalist at Breakwater Alternative Health Center. “A constantly recirculating nutrient solution ensures that the roots are always bathed in a steady supply of nutrients, while still constantly providing plenty of oxygen for the roots.”
Since roots need oxygen for respiration, Bender explains, a potting mix won’t hold the optimal amount of oxygen to sustain the accelerated growth that hydroponics creates. “A freshly watered potting mix, such as peat, perlite and vermiculite in a 3:1:1 ratio, holds less oxygen than is ideal for roots. Therefore, plants grown in potting mix must dry between waterings in order to provide sufficient oxygen to the roots,” he observes. “As a potting mix dries, it gradually allows more oxygen to reach the roots, but simultaneously water and dissolved nutrients become harder for the roots to absorb, and the solution in the area surrounding the roots becomes depleted of nutrients—unlike in a hydroponic system, which constantly replenishes this would-be depletion zone. The combination of constantly available, optimal levels of both water and oxygen in a hydroponic system allows plants to grow much faster.”

thears also a whole buch of pictures on the same page showing some massive hydro setups

and that all from hightime magazin not some wannabe magazi  hightimes mag the longtime standing leader of cultivation mags

check it out yourself
http://hightimes.com/grow/the-ultimate-high-times-guide-how-to-hydro/

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