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TrueHerbCrystal
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Only CFL Indoor Soil Grow - Purple Martian & Blue City Diesel - 3rd Grow Attempt (SPIDER MITES GONE)
#822743 - 01/17/17 10:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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After a long hiatus, im back at growing da weed.
A little history. My first grow was going great, an indoor all cfl grow, but i got caught by the cops with my big mouth and they killed my plant. Fail One.
Fail two last year. I tried to grow an OG Kush outdoors. It got cold, i killed it. Very sad.
Third attempt, today in 2017.
I got these two plants for Christmas as an Xmas present from my GF. And she was kind enough to gift me a "Grow/Hangout Space" in the upstairs garage as well.
This is about three weeks into the grow....
Purple Martian:


Blue City Diesel:


Changes Ive made so far: Ive currently got two large black pots (not sure the size). These ones pictured will be their final pots. They came from the small starter pots that most herbs u buy at stores come in. Ive changed the lighting. For 3 weeks, BCD had a 27 watt 5,000K CFL inside an old desktop lamp and the PurMar had a 19 watt 5,000K CFL bulb hanging from a wire. Both plants are inside FoxFarm Ocean soil and Im using FoxFarm Grow Big liquid ferts with a 1-2 capful to 1 gallon mix rate. Also, Ive cut some sick-looking leaves off or just trimmed them to help the plants grow better.
I didnt take any good pics at the time I was gifted them at Christmas, so these are my starting photos.
Future Plans:
In the near future, I want to create a nice-looking homemade cedar wood Hang-man type structure that goes around the pots (one structure for each pot) to hold up a custom-made wooden light holder. The wooden light holder will hold my grow bulbs and will be supported by chains connected to the Hangman-type structure.
Hopefully soon. Right now the lighting is jerry-rigged but works 
Why CFL?
Three reasons why Im using CFL over HID or HPS. First, its what I started with back on my first grow in 2010. I want to see what results i can get with just CFL lighting. Secondly, its quite cost effective and efficient and i dont have to spend a ton of money on it. Third, it provides some heat with light. I feel that LED wouldnt make enough heat (Im not using a heater yet, hopefully not ever). I need some heat from the light source to warm the plants up a bit since it is January in the PNW and its quite cold at night. Sometimes freezing. Ive noticed slow growth which i expected from the cold weather.
Next grow I might try other lighting options. But for today, Im liking the CFLs. Shitty house lights but great grow lights 
Will make posts with major updates in the future. Stay tuned....
Edited by TrueHerbCrystal (07/05/17 10:24 AM)
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TrueHerbCrystal
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Re: Only CFL Indoor Soil Grow - Purple Martian & Blue City Diesel - 3rd Grow Attempt [Re: blueberry D]
#822775 - 01/18/17 11:04 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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good point.
I will look into that. Also, i just found out Ocean Forest is loaded with organic ferts so i should feed plain water to my plants. Im avoiding Ocean Foest next time, i didnt know it was "pre-fertilized". Me no like that.
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Re: Only CFL Indoor Soil Grow - Purple Martian & Blue City Diesel - 3rd Grow Attempt [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#822948 - 01/24/17 03:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yah, i stopped feeding when i read in a thread the soil is "hot" (meaning packing with nutrients).
Im trying both water and diulted Grow Big to see what happens.
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Re: Only CFL Indoor Soil Grow - Purple Martian & Blue City Diesel - 3rd Grow Attempt [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
#822986 - 01/25/17 05:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Update: Jan 22nd, 2017
*Purple Martian*

My Purple Martian is doing pretty good. Ive noticed some purple on the leaves! I hope thats from the strain and not some nutrient deficiency.
Ive also noticed the lower leaves are browning on the edges. Not sure why.
But its grown quite a bit in one week 
- Blue City Diesel -

Nice green on my Blue City. The lower leaves do have more browning on the edges than the Purple Martian, but I will deal with that later.
There is some green/light-green splochyness on the leaves. Not sure what that is.
Also i noticed some purple coloring on the top leaves. Not sure if its from the strain or not.
Still pleased
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Re: Only CFL Indoor Soil Grow - Purple Martian & Blue City Diesel - 3rd Grow Attempt [Re: Deadkndys420]
#823015 - 01/26/17 04:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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alright, will do.
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Re: Only CFL Indoor Soil Grow - Purple Martian & Blue City Diesel - 3rd Grow Attempt [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
#823030 - 01/27/17 02:28 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Could it also be cold stress?
I was reading and it said here that cold can make stems go purple: https://www.growery.org/2991/Diagnosis
Im growing in my garage and it has no heating and no insulation. Likely geta into the low 40s.
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Re: Only CFL Indoor Soil Grow - Purple Martian & Blue City Diesel - 3rd Grow Attempt [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#823045 - 01/27/17 02:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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thanks.
Wish i could but the power bill is currently really high and i cant heat the room. My GF pays the power since its her house.
They sadly gotta live in the cold for a bit
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Re: Only CFL Indoor Soil Grow - Purple Martian & Blue City Diesel - 3rd Grow Attempt [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#823049 - 01/27/17 04:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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True. cant put inside the house, no room.
If they die, i will be sad but order some brand-name seeds 
But im confident they will survive.
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Re: Only CFL Indoor Soil Grow - Purple Martian & Blue City Diesel - 3rd Grow Attempt [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
#823260 - 01/30/17 10:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just put a cardboard box (Ghetto Tek!!!) around my Purple Martian. It wasnt looking so good, getting purple in the leaves and stems, likely from the cold. Im hoping this will help it out.
Definitely looking forward to spring time
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Re: Only CFL Indoor Soil Grow - Purple Martian & Blue City Diesel - 3rd Grow Attempt [Re: newbie2shoes]
#823334 - 01/31/17 09:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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thanks guys.
I bought some cedar wood from H.D., and some electrical stuff to make a lighting overhang thang, but i checked my bank account, and i overspent 
Sadly, i gotta return the $38 of parts i bought. oh well, i will wait till a few weeks from now...
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Re: Only CFL Indoor Soil Grow - Purple Martian & Blue City Diesel - 3rd Grow Attempt [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
#823367 - 02/02/17 10:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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So some good news.
My GF gave me $40 for food so i could keep my stuff i bought.
Heres the wood i bought for my naturalistic light hangers:

Heres the completed thang on my Purple Martian:


And heres the wide-shot with both plants 

So glad they came out like i imagined them. In the future, im going to make an add-on for a cedar frame that holds the lights and reflects them too.
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Re: Only CFL Indoor Soil Grow - Purple Martian & Blue City Diesel - 3rd Grow Attempt [Re: Grit]
#823397 - 02/04/17 09:38 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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thanks grit, it was a Christmas gift. I call it the Bigfoot Shrine.
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Re: Only CFL Indoor Soil Grow - Purple Martian & Blue City Diesel - 3rd Grow Attempt [Re: Deadkndys420]
#823414 - 02/04/17 03:17 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh yah?
A decent set up for only $60? Ballast, bulb and reflector too?
I appreciate the suggestion, but this grow is an experiment for myself. I wanna see what CFL is capable of. That way when i do MH or HPS i know what a difference it makes with my own eyes and brain (the high).
I started with CFL and i wanna finish where i left off from.
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Re: Only CFL Indoor Soil Grow - Purple Martian & Blue City Diesel - 3rd Grow Attempt [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
#823543 - 02/09/17 03:35 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Update:
My Purple Martian. Its not doing soo good. Im thinking the low temps and maybe a light bulb too close.

My Blue City Diesel is doing much better than the Purple Martian:

I did add some zip ties to my lights to make it easy to raise the light bulb. I wasnt liking the string. Too inconvient.



Luckily, the outside temp is getting warmer. This is good.
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Re: Only CFL Indoor Soil Grow - Purple Martian & Blue City Diesel - 3rd Grow Attempt [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
#823869 - 02/18/17 01:25 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Update: Light upgrade
Added two bulbs, one to each plant plus put them on a 12on/12off timer so they only turn on at night for 12 hours.
These taken a few days ago.
Purple Martian


Blue City Diesel


New power strip and timer:

Of the two, the Blue City Diesel looks very healthly. The Purple Martian less so.
I can see big differences now between the plants: Purple Martian looks like a Indica (kinda ugly) while the Blue City looks more pretty like a Sativa. I guess Sativas are better in lower temps maybe.
The increased light helped a ton.
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Re: Only CFL Indoor Soil Grow - Purple Martian & Blue City Diesel - 3rd Grow Attempt [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#823897 - 02/19/17 07:50 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I know my pics are huge. Soon i will use growerys account but i need to buy a supporter ticket thing...
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Re: Only CFL Indoor Soil Grow - Purple Martian & Blue City Diesel - 3rd Grow Attempt [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#823939 - 02/20/17 11:19 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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i know that, i maxed out my Gallery and i dont wanna delete anything. I had a supporter account before so i have 156MB out of 100MB photo space (thanks Ythan). But i cant add more without deleting or getting a supporter account.
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Re: Only CFL Indoor Soil Grow - Purple Martian & Blue City Diesel - 3rd Grow Attempt [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
#824397 - 03/04/17 08:38 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Update: March 4th.
No photos this post as HawksRes is getting annoyed with the large pics. It is too much for one page, i agree. Im waiting on some money so i can get a Growery subscription.
Purple Martian:
So my PM was getting limpy so i had to support it with zip ties and a twist tie around the stem where it droops. Looks like an accidental training attempt The leaves are looking nice and green. Some tiny buds are forming on the stem.
Blue City Diesel:
Growing tall, no drooping. Its looking green too. Tiny buds on the stem as well. Ive had to adjust the zip ties as the plant continues to grow taller.
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TrueHerbCrystal
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Re: Only CFL Indoor Soil Grow - Purple Martian & Blue City Diesel - 3rd Grow Attempt [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#824446 - 03/06/17 11:15 AM (8 years, 30 days ago) |
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Alright alright page 3 i will post some pics.
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Re: Only CFL Indoor Soil Grow - Purple Martian & Blue City Diesel - 3rd Grow Attempt [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
#824592 - 03/11/17 01:45 AM (8 years, 26 days ago) |
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Quick update: My plants are looking real healthy now. They are loving the now warmer spring temps.
Ive had to adjust the lights upwards several times to prevent leaf buring. The Purple Martian still needs support at the stem. The Blue City is fully erect! Because of their size, im feeding them a light fert/water mix. They are getting thristy too!
I will be updating with photo (finally) on Monday night.
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