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Re: Milktruck's Afgani Queen x 400w HID Aeroponic 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #818345 - 08/19/16 10:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

it's  RQS Special Queen #1 (mother) x Seedsman Original afghani #1 (father), the mother was fairly homogenous for the ones i ran, she was a remarkably fast flowering plant for how how much sativa it looked like she had in her, super eager to branch out, and a fairly large plant for the age compared to some other MUCH pricier and MUCH more well known strains ive run i wont mention names of :lol: the special kush #1 im running right now doesn't exactly appear to be quite as described genetically, but it is however the most impressive plant of my current fem seed batch by faqr, compared to more well known and pricier seeds. i have NOTHING to do with royal queen, they just have very impressive genetics imo.

and the father varied wildly in phenos male and female, i just used the most eager male to respond to topping for the father. According to seedsman it's one of the original afghani landraces brought back in the 1970s

i just call it afghani queen for short and just tend to name the mother plants ive kept individually, the older they get and farther into flower the more difference you'll see in the phenotypes

in that middle pic on the bottom row of pictures, the queen in the front right, i like her :3 hopefully her anyway.

Some of the pheos will flower out stupidly fast by the way. Ive had a couple even throw preflowers by the 4th or 5th node, which for this cross isnt that old most the time. i would have to say the afghani is the dominant genotype in the cross...

but if you get one of those lanky phenos, cherish it, they have this strangely pleasant burnt rubber smell ive never encountered anywhere else, the taste is not easy to describe and the buzz of those ones is way up their in my book.

Most of them just have a nice pungent stank and taste like a pine tree lol, at least the way ive grown them out. Cant wait to sample my outdoor queen though, really wish i had cloned her. Heavily indica dominant, and smells like skunky citrus atm :cool: this cross is a bit of a wild card but i have yet to be disappointed, still got a couple dozen saved for myself.

Edited by Milktruck (08/19/16 10:58 PM)

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Re: Milktruck's Afgani Queen x 400w HID Aeroponic 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #818358 - 08/20/16 11:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Baron_Samedi said:





Dude, it's the land race in them, i promise you, these things are some of the most robust and vigorous seeds ive run (afghani land race) crossed with some of the highest quality herb ive ever produced (being the special queen, yes it really is that good for a cheap skunk hybrid, is also one of, if not THE most consistent and homogenous fem seeds ive ran), i have NO regrets over the drunk pollinating and spilled zip lock, these seeds more than make up for that one loss of yield. And im quite pleased i had enough to share and not run out myself!!! good luck and god speed! You are in the presence of a Queen! :lol:

Ive shared a lot of these seeds since last fall, local and online, had almost 1000, now down to a couple dozen... and locally, ive already purchased a couple street bags im 99% sure came from my afghani queen cross lolololol

third row of pics, first picture, front right spot on the container, ill bet you  thats the first male of the group lol. That one looks like it doesnt want to branch out....at all lol, it doesnt seem too concerned with making budsites to support seeds :wink:

A lot of the female phenos in this cross can easily get their pistil stuck in the preflowers as well, when they are still immature and small, just make sure you wait till more mature flowers start to form before you weed out the males, ive moved a couple suspected males outside only to come to find out they were indeed females. But those less willing to branch females are less desireable phenotypes anyway, so was never much of a loss.

Edited by Milktruck (08/20/16 12:02 PM)

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Re: Milktruck's Afgani Queen x 400w HID Aeroponic 2016 [Re: Hashed]
    #818500 - 08/24/16 03:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

yea buddy, and yea, the males usually just dont respond to topping well, they stall for a bit when you do, they are more concerned with getting taller then they are making sites for seeds to develop, so when that main stem gets cut they just panic because they dont know what to do with the leftover auxins. :wink:

although i have had some males just as bushy as the females that respond to topping just as well, only to spit balls after the flip


to change the post icon dont uncheck " I want to preview my modifications and add or edit an attachment. "

when you hit continue you get a lot more options, one of them is to change your post icon

mine is now googly eyes :lol:

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Re: Milktruck's Afgani Queen x 400w HID Aeroponic 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #818507 - 08/24/16 06:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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yup but I got a feeling with the two biggest not sure about the slow poke yet lol of course that's in contrast with the other Queens so average poke...

and yea or you can just click the icon to change it but before the default was forgettable it's noworth it's a fucking bright ass heart now every post has that shit on it





yea, to be completely honest, i cull the ones that dont present that hybrid vigor immediately, i tend to only put effort into slower ones when they are feminized genetics, and once those get going and you get some clones going they veg just as fast as plants with hybrid vigor

its that first couple weeks that vigor makes itself known, it gives you a MAJOR headstart, it really does, and im so happy so many in this cross present it, my results have been about 2/3 queens present MASSIVE hybrid vigor within days of popping.

You cant stop them, and that is an under statement, i fucking love these seeds, can go seed to harvest in 10 to 11 weeks flat. no more than 10 if in DWC and flipped to flower as soon as a staggered node shows, and chances are youll still pull a couple zips of one let go all the way.

Hell, my outdoor queen is going to be done by the second week of september :lol:

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Re: Milktruck's Afgani Queen x 400w HID Aeroponic 2016 [Re: Inocuole]
    #818900 - 09/03/16 12:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)



which plants exactly in the last flower box pics are the queens? Guessing the two soiless buckefs and the back left lol

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Re: Milktruck's Afgani Queen x 400w HID Aeroponic 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #818912 - 09/03/16 08:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thise the only 2 queens in the flower box right now? The bigger one looks a lot thinner in the foliage than mine have been. Have been very dense planrs foliage wise for me






And heres a shot of a couple of the better nugs i kept from up top on my outdoor queen. (First pic obviously lol)  A bit earlier and harier than I wanted. Also not the best trim job. But these nugs have been curing for a few days now. Fairly dense. But could have been even better if it went that last week...oh well lol. (The buds arent this light yet. Still darker green. Is just the really orange lighting)

They still smell like a mowed lawn but the stink is coming in slowly.. will probably have it smoked before its fully cured though

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Re: Milktruck's Afgani Queen x 400w HID Aeroponic 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #818931 - 09/03/16 09:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

wont know if its that specific phenotype til she gets into flower, may just be a similar one. just wait for that burnt rubber smell xD. The lanky queen i cloned from was still willing to top and bush out, she just has high node spacing in veg, but dint actually stretch much in flower and still cola'd up nicely in the end.


imo you have a new pheno i havnt seen yet there, and honestly i would do one of two things:

1: Cull it, because i cant really see a phenotype like that being very yeildy

or

2: Keep it around if you got room, clone her, then flower her just to see what she does, for novelty's sake :lol:

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Re: Milktruck's Afgani Queen x 400w HID Aeroponic 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #819147 - 09/09/16 09:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

All of those queens loom wierd to me lol.

They dont look unhealthy just wierd :lol: must be something about your setup or nutrients. Idk. All of those have really low internodal growth compared to what I usually end up with. If you can manage temps you may want to move your light a little closer.

Althoug I cull seedlings and young pants like crazy when im working with seeds I have a high number of... I keep the perfect or interesting ones usually lol

Ive also never had better than 50/50 m/f rates with these seeds. Props on that lol.

And ive noticed the hard brittle stem thing with these as well. My outdoor broke multiple times in multiple places even while propped up.

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Re: Barons Grow Log of Wonders! (Many different grow styles and strains under a 400w HID) [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #819392 - 09/18/16 08:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Baron_Samedi said:
here's what they look like side by side


Lights on perky lights off sleep and it's the only one that does it





most of my queens have done this, they reach for the stars when the sun is out, and quietly slump over at night to save energy i imagine. ive noticed a few strains do this, but is very common in the queens, id say OVER 50% that i have run do this, and some VERY dramatically, is isnt overwatering, isnt underwatering or any excess stress. i can promise that some of the queens will just do that.

Only weird thing about them ive noticed is how much more sativa they look like they have in them in your setup. in your setup they look like some nice even hybrids, over on my end most have looked a LOT like the pure afghani father, yours look a lot more like the mother (special queen) in the way they are growing and flowering out. Maybe its luck of the draw, idk, but they look healthy to me and the leaf lowering thing at night is perfectly normal.

My current special queen looks damn near IDENTICAL to your queen that droops at night. and it is also doing the leaf droop thing nightly as well, ill get a picture of it shortly.

Edited by Milktruck (09/18/16 08:18 AM)

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Re: Barons Grow Log of Wonders! (Many different grow styles and strains under a 400w HID) [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #819445 - 09/20/16 06:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

theyre all great that i have flowered, im just very choosy with the cull in veg, ill start probably 4 times as many as i want to end up with, weed out the least impressive, then pull the males at the flip.

Im quite interested in what some of the plants i would have culled end up doing :laugh:

the main queen is looking pretty nice though, and as you know your still a good ways from the buds stacking, and as for flowering time, ive had fatties be done in 7 weeks, and lankies take up to 9 for some, it varies by pheno.

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Re: Barons Grow Log of Wonders! (Many different grow styles and strains under a 400w HID) [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #819597 - 09/25/16 08:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That main queens got some nice colas going on...glad it finally showed a bit more of its Indica heritage :smile:

That main queen is definatwly my favorite plant you got going atm.

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Re: Milktruck's Afgani Queen x 400w HID Aeroponic 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #819971 - 10/06/16 08:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The queen in the middle pics looks like shes gonna have some fat nugs...I wish your clone from her would have taken off.

And personally I would let them go another couple weeks at least. Another week to ten days for sure.

Edited by Milktruck (10/06/16 06:26 PM)

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Re: Milktruck's Afgani Queen x 400w HID Aeroponic 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #820014 - 10/07/16 09:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Id personally keep nuting up to about ten days before the cut. Just water from then. Theyll do a LOT of fattening that last couple weeks if your pk is balanced nicely.

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Re: Milktruck's Afgani Queen x 400w HID Aeroponic 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #820241 - 10/15/16 11:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i am quite pleased to see how theyre doing even in far from perfect conditions (no offense intended)

and if your not getting any weird smells from the runoff water after you do water them then i doubt its root rot, those two just look a wee bit deficient compared to the single cola one, which would kinda make more sense if theyre getting the same nute regiment (not sure there) since those two are larger plants adding weight a bit quicker, or trying to at least.

its hard to tell from the pics but to me the main queen almost looks drought or heat stressed or a combination of the two along side maybe some N def. by comparison to the others, and that tends to cause that curling yelowing off of the leaves like that if it becomes somewhat cronic (the heat and drought that is) as for the topped smaller one, im thinking that may just be a less vigerous lower yeilding pheno comparing it to the other two (that is if its getting the same nutrient regiments)

I mention this because the mother of the cross, the special queen, she goes yellow from any sort of stress or nutrient deficiencyu very easily, and your main queen is damn near IDENTICAL to the mother of this cross. the way she colas, the way she drops her fan leaves all night, and how willing she is to top out into new colas without hesitating. just isnt the easiest plant in the book to grow, but regardless of what she looks like, if you get her to harvest succesfully you will be more than pleased :wink:

and if you do indeed have root rot, ive always dealt with that by just adding small amounts of 3% hydrogen peroxide to my nutrient solutions for a couple hours, then replace (if hydro) or flush (if soil or soiless) if you are doing this with soiless or soil mediums, you need to run an air bubbler in the flush water for a bit before you flush with it or you will just enmd up compounding the problem.

As for ozone, have never had a real need for it for anything, there are safer options that work just as well imho

Edited by Milktruck (10/15/16 11:34 AM)

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Re: Milktruck's Afgani Queen x 400w HID Aeroponic 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #820290 - 10/16/16 12:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ahh ozone water.

I immediately thought ozone generator when you said ozone my bad. I have no opinion there. Never used it.

And I guess if you see rot. There's rot xD. Good luck and hope you take care of it. Been a long time since I've seen root rot, my box is left open to a dark air conditioned room in the basement lol, temps 68 to 75 all the time and I never water till the pots get light. Ill stop making recommendations for a setup I've never used myself now :lol:

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Re: Milktruck's Afgani Queen x 400w HID Aeroponic 2016 [Re: Stoneth]
    #820351 - 10/18/16 11:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Stoneth said:
Quote:

I'm gonna try really hard to clone the single cola pheno even though it don't like to branch



Folar feeding with a light mixture of fulvic acid, and kelp will help the plant grow laterally giving you those branches you want.
You shouldn't do this no more than once a week, I do it about every 10 days to be safe.
I also use a yucca extract in my folar mix.




had no clue, thats seriously good to know, although i tend to just cull my less willing to branch out phenotypes, i imagine this could only help an already eager to branch oput plant :laugh:

wheni want my cacti to pup a little stronger ill feed em with some kelp, i guess it only makes sense :P

That untopped queen, it's kind of cool to see what a pheno i would have culled early on did. i hope her quality makes up for the deminished yeild on her. im still kind of shocked a stick like that wasn't a male :lol: Did you even get any males? if not, you're the only one yet to do a multi plant run with the queens and choose all female seeds xD

and that sucks about the main queen coming down early, those nugs would have thickened up a LOT if she could have finished up. hope your extracts are decent enough!

Edited by Milktruck (10/18/16 11:18 PM)

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Re: Milktruck's Afgani Queen x 400w HID Aeroponic 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #820749 - 11/04/16 02:40 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

lets get an update, interested how this is playing/played out :laugh:

i just upgraded to a 400 watt hps myself and the girls are loving it! Was able to retire half of my old t5 setup to my cacti :lol:




btw, back left in this image is the mother plant of the cross i sent you (special queen #1). See that night time leaf curl and the shape of the leaves? a bit uncanny isnt it lol, she was only about 30 minutes into darkness when i snapped this shot and the leaves were already starting their nightly droop

And the father of your cross was a broad leaf afghani, a short fat dense bush of a plant very similar to the dutch kush sitting right next to the special queen in this shot. Was just a male obviously, but wasnt quite as fast of a finisher as this dutch kush




Edited by Milktruck (11/04/16 03:41 AM)

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Re: Milktruck's Afgani Queen x 400w HID Aeroponic 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #821266 - 11/19/16 12:59 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

hope all is well in Baron's world! Sending good vibes!!

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