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 Milktruck
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 Re: blue berry x & blue knight  [Re: Sloppy]
#816033 - 06/29/16 09:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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if im running under my t5 setup, am not right now, only running two atm, then i veg under 6500k 3-4 inches from the plants, when i flip to flower i stay under 6500k and just drop the t5s right to the canopy and make sure i have adequate cooling.
am actually planning a nice long thread and experiment where i catalog ALL data involved and all variables and only run with 1 clone to prove my concept.
p.s. wasnt done editing that post by the time you responded lololol, make sure my slow ass didnt make you miss something
basically 6500k floro puts out MORE UV per watt than 2700k, it is a lot closer to the UV end of the spectrum to begin with, and it is well known the more UV your area has the more resinous your outdoor buds get, this is VERY well known, and why plants noth of 40 degrees north latitude need genetic change outs every few seasons, they begin to adapt to the low UV high visible light environment and dont produce resin as well in subsequent generations.
If this well known fact is indeed a fact, 6500k should be superior in resin production over 2700k, and my own experience with this corroborates that theory.
Edited by Milktruck (06/29/16 09:49 AM)
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 Sloppy
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Re: blue berry x & blue knight [Re: Milktruck]
#816035 - 06/29/16 10:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok, I see what you are saying. But how does the plant really understand the change from veg to flower? Just by moving the t5 down to the canopy? That's sufficient IYO?
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Re: blue berry x & blue knight [Re: Sloppy]
#816036 - 06/29/16 10:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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nonononono lol, to make the switch to flower you need to extend the length of night time to at least 12 hours, cannabis are short day plants, ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photoperiodism#Short-day_plants ) once night hits a certain length hormone production tells them to flower, you can flower under any spectrum any kind of light as long as the light is intense enough and you keep temperatures tollerable, casically when you switch to 12 on 12 off the plants panics as it thinks it missed the end of summer and immediately starts going into massive flowering at a much faster rate than outdoor plants do.
feel free to come to my journal to talk about this, not sure of Nevar would appreciate spamming his journal with a bunch of posts useless to him xD
Edited by Milktruck (06/29/16 10:14 AM)
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Re: blue berry x & blue knight [Re: Milktruck]
#816037 - 06/29/16 10:12 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sorry Nevar! Your shit looks solid too tho, bro.
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Re: blue berry x & blue knight [Re: Sloppy]
#816091 - 06/29/16 11:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's all good bro I'm not worried about someone else learning on this thread I could care less
  
More crap pics, ima whip out the real camera soon get some juicy pics lol
Pics pics pics lpl I spam my own threads plenty lmao no one in their right mind would wanna read it all lmao... hmmm
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Re: blue berry x & blue knight [Re: Nevar44]
#816092 - 06/29/16 11:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Those are sexy, what variety you got going there?
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Re: blue berry x & blue knight [Re: Sloppy]
#816094 - 06/29/16 11:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Read all seven pages lmao, jk
Those pics are a blue berry cross, and agent orange cross at day EDIT:33
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Edited by Nevar44 (06/29/16 11:35 PM)
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Re: blue berry x & blue knight [Re: Nevar44]
#816099 - 06/30/16 12:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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those pics arent any worse than the best ones i can take lol
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Re: blue berry x & blue knight [Re: Milktruck] 1
#816231 - 07/01/16 08:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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AO problems? ? Slight canoeing along w yellowing?
    
AO pics...
 
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Edited by Nevar44 (07/01/16 10:47 PM)
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Re: blue berry x & blue knight [Re: Nevar44]
#816251 - 07/02/16 07:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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my vote is mild PH flux but i have no real idea, the more sativa you got in the genetic overall, the more tempermental the plant will be to slight changes in its environment. but i am also horrifically unfamiliar with your nutrient lineup lol
ive always controlled hooking leaf tips and canoeing of leaves with a drop in N2 and stabilization of the ph at 6.8-7 neutral, but the lower yellowing would remove N2 build up as a possibility most likely.
and i apologizing for referencing n2 so much, its just by far the most common cause of dark curling/canoeing bud leaves, just usually not in the presence of yellowing fan leaves, causing me to blindly guess ph flux. as if there is any form of lockout, even mild, the plant will direct any toxicity to the least necessary parts of the plant. usually the lower larger fan leaves will go first with any kind of ph problem
i have ran some kush genetics before that curl bud leaves unavoidably and it never damaged yields, but was a rare thing to happen and that AO is FAR from a kush looking at that bud structure xD
try and get some shots with a flash right before next lights on or in the minute after lights off, hps lighting makes it really difficult to accurately guage plant color and issues through photos if you dont use it yourself a lot.
Edited by Milktruck (07/02/16 08:14 AM)
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Re: blue berry x & blue knight [Re: Milktruck] 1
#816253 - 07/02/16 08:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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F.i. in the first pic day 23
bb in the others day 34
  
  
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Edited by Nevar44 (07/02/16 08:55 AM)
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Re: blue berry x & blue knight [Re: Nevar44]
#816254 - 07/02/16 08:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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As far as the AO
I've cut it off the nitrogen past week, it's gotten no nitrogen at all
And it's been gettin a lil extra bump of potassium along with not getting and Nitrogen
I'm thinking it's either potassium toxicity or nitrogen deficiency due to what I've feeding her? ?
Could a large spike in potassium along w zero nitrogen cause it maybe?
I'm leaning towards lil excess potassium, orrrr more symptoms of slight drought stress. But I think excess potassium is most logical
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Edited by Nevar44 (07/02/16 08:15 AM)
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Re: blue berry x & blue knight [Re: Nevar44]
#816255 - 07/02/16 08:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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dat BlueBerry  also would make an excellent hash plant i would think, excellent genetics on that one for sure.
and i am of no use to your here, but with the sativa you said's in the AO i highly doubt its N2 deficient looking at the bud leaves, or toxic, looking at the fan leaves. the TwOg i ran a couple years ago would go n2 toxic if i so much as touched it with any after week 5 flowering, it apparently made all it needed itself. im starting to look at some potassium *supplements* myself looking at how my lanky is doing root bound in her current mix, amdpotassium as it sits in her flower mix could be a little higher actually. would be epic if i can keep her with no issues at all all the way to harvest root bound in a just add water mix. especially after how terrible my fatass clone did this round, never figured out what i did wrong with her either so, just gonna have to emulate the lanky's mix + a little bit of extra N2 (fatass likes it) and hope that fixes it lol
Edited by Milktruck (07/02/16 08:30 AM)
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Re: blue berry x & blue knight [Re: Milktruck]
#816256 - 07/02/16 08:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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More pics ^^^
I don't think ph issues link to explain why...
I'm leaning towards her being extra hungry possibly. Way I imagine it she is big so she may need lil extra food
Her and the BB have been getting the exact same doses. Same with the blue knight and f.i. also...
If it's not deficiency it's drought... I would imagine but I'm a rookie lol
Edited by Nevar44 (07/02/16 08:37 AM)
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Milktruck
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Re: blue berry x & blue knight [Re: Nevar44]
#816257 - 07/02/16 08:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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looks delicious 
oh and i acknowledged i am of no help to you where the AO is concerned  , not familiar with your nutrients and havnt seen that particular set of issues before in recent enough memory to say "this is the problem!" so i just defaulted to saying PH as kind of a funny lol
that's just the first post response on every plant problem question on most message boards when the person answering has no clue lol. silence on the issue probably would have been a better response to your issue on my part xD
Edited by Milktruck (07/02/16 08:43 AM)
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Re: blue berry x & blue knight [Re: Milktruck]
#816258 - 07/02/16 08:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ohhh lol in wouldn't know that lol being my second grow I've never been on any other sights
Been trying to get all those pics up since last night w those AO pics lmao
I also so have lots of reishi and lions mane mushroom in the same room maybe my co2 levels are spiked atm... I need to get a co2 meter so I know if co2 levels are high in my tent or not..
I'm not TRYING to use then for co2 supplementation just restricted on space
The AO has heat stress gotta ignore that...
I'll try to get pics in normal light soon
This all started week four when I started giving her the 10ml of sugaree. Which is a 0-0-2.
The same 10ml of sugaree is what seemed to fix the canoeing in the bb. The bb has been getting 10-11ml sugaree since then
You CAN go up to 30ml sugaree in late flower they say. But I was never told that, I was simply told use 10ml
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Edited by Nevar44 (07/02/16 08:53 AM)
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Re: blue berry x & blue knight [Re: Nevar44]
#816259 - 07/02/16 09:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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have never thought about using fungi for co2 supplementation and have never forked out the cash for tank setups
occasionally ill use yeast bottles (am aware yeast is actually a fungi lol, but it doesnt have any other purpose for me other than co2 or homeade bread), but you may actually inadvertently have a good thing there since your not running a soil with a mile long list of potential culture contaminants for your fungi cults lol
Edited by Milktruck (07/02/16 09:22 AM)
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Re: blue berry x & blue knight [Re: Milktruck]
#816266 - 07/02/16 12:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've done soil, my first grow in fact and vented my oyster gh into my grow tent.
Contam issues from growing fungi and cannabis seems to be a myth I did it.
I've been told u cant, that's bull shit.
It's wasn't quite inadvertently either lol
In fact, when I have space I will have a fungi room and a flower room. The fungi room exhaust will be vented into the flower room after being scrubbed via air fiter.
The plant room can also possibly be vented into the fungi room if u had a rad set up and design which I do not know of and haven't thought about. Ud have to make sure it was just o2 not co2 entering ur fungi room or at least low co2 levels entering the fungi room along w Hugh o2
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Edited by Nevar44 (07/02/16 02:21 PM)
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Re: blue berry x & blue knight [Re: Nevar44]
#816282 - 07/02/16 04:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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My AO leaves are turning brown and yellow.
The bottom leaf is curling downward, edges and tips turning brown. Yellowing
The older big fan leaves are beginning to canoe. Edges and tips beggining to curl up and begging to yellow
Few spots in larger leaves here and there not much
It all leads me to believe it's a potassium deficiency
I'll bump up the potassium prob next feed tommrrow
Also the top leaves are not affected but the bottoms are. It's worst at the bottom and nothing at the top however the top isn't getting light it's grown past the light
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Edited by Nevar44 (07/02/16 05:17 PM)
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Milktruck
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Re: blue berry x & blue knight [Re: Nevar44]
#816291 - 07/02/16 05:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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good luck, copied and pasted your last post and the AO pics to another more popular forum im on, will let you know if i get any useful info for you, hopefully will just confirm your diagnosis and all will be peachy in a few days... no trail to you will be left unless you ask me to
Edited by Milktruck (07/02/16 06:02 PM)
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