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    #814851 - 06/13/16 12:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #814894 - 06/13/16 06:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thought i'd throw up a couple shots of two Special Queen x original Afghani I have running under some t5..only a couple right now to help save on power..ac is running constantly right now. Both are right at 26 days flower, 32 days 12/12

First one is a clone of my recessive lanky pheno...I just call her the lanky queen. Sadly didnt have any clones ready to start the outdoor season this year. My only outdoors were from seed lol. She is way to lanky and stretchy for indoor under t5 obviously, I just wanted to see what would happen. Have been concentrating on "other" ethnobotanicals this season.





And a clone of one of my more indica phenos...I affectionately call her the fatass queen :lol: her yeilds are great and her buds are very kushy :cool: Not as potent as the lanky queen but yeilds indoor are MUCH better :wink:




In another week or two they will start to REALLY pack on the resin glands, the fatass phenos seem to do a LOT of work in the last few week as one would expect of an indica dom. The recessive phenos tend to go fairly steady throughout flower...lots of pheno variance since its a first gen cross, but some are some true gems to work with :laugh:

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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815020 - 06/15/16 05:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

More pics.

The garden has a welcomed visitor. made itself right at home, hope she hangs out for a bit. :laugh:










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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815123 - 06/16/16 04:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

More shots of the indoors u.der t5 and cfl side light...gonna cola up nicely for small flourescent plants :smile: hitting that part of the grow we all know where the wait becomes meddening

Lanky Queen...she's gonna have a good bit of sugary trim for a little chunk of hash or a precure spliff lol




Fatass Queen (shes way harder to get good pics of)



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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Nevar44]
    #815134 - 06/16/16 05:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yay I finally have a comment on my growery thread!!!!!! Thanks man

:P

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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Nevar44]
    #815139 - 06/16/16 07:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Which queen? Fatass or lanky? Outdoor? I call them all afghani queens, or just queens... watered this morning and lanky droops every time she gets a thorough wTering for a few hours. Always bounces back

If you tLking about the yellowing leaves with brown spots on the bottom of the fatass thats because I lolipopped the premie buds those leaves were feeding a week ago or so. They wernt getting enough light to do anything but hermie, and now the plant is letting them die and is consuming them for their nutrition because they are no longer necessary, since shes a purely organic plant she is doing that all in the name of effeciency lol




If your talking out the bud leaves pointing down, the fatass just does that, just one of her traits lol



She actualy gets that downward angles bud leaf trait from her momma :3 Special Queen #1... the fatass queen is actually somewhere under that frost in this pic lololol, she got seeded early on in flower



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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Nevar44]
    #815141 - 06/16/16 07:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Nope...shes gonna have 30-50 babies :laugh:.  Enough for me and friends (feel free to pm if you want some, would be down for a genetics swap with a half dozen beans or more) Polenated with some more seedsman afghani #1 lol. Genetic would be (Special Queen #1 x Afghani #1) x Afghani #1 (dnt worry, is not the same male afghani as the first father plant...no inbreeding here :smile:....Not worried Bout yeild loss...outdoor is a damn neaar identical phenotype

When you pollenate early and carefully you still get a lot of seed free calyx develop over the seeded ones. And each bud is still plenty dank, just has a few seeds in each nug near the center stem

Those pics are a few days old...the pollenated hairs have alreay gone all red now..calyxes to swell shortly


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Nevar44]
    #815147 - 06/16/16 08:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Nevar44 said:
I'm talking about the pistals that turned orange on the tips prematurely?

My bb and blue knight the bottom leaves point downward also can be anoyying first time around not knowing that lol



Actually, looking closely your right...there are some orange tips on pistils I didnt even get pollen anywhere near. Must have a bit too much air flow on her lol, gonna bump the fan down a setting


Also, my outdoor is going Into flower a couple weeks ahead of schedule lol

Gonna go ahead and call it...outdoor day 1 flower  6/16/16---- Possible autoflower characteristic maybe? Days still getting longer.


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Nevar44]
    #815199 - 06/17/16 06:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The easiest way to tell if your fertilizer is food grade, is...is it marketed as vegetable food? Or just "multi plant food"

Companies have to bend to meet certain consumer guidelines to be able to market organics for the purpose of food production, the laws surrounding chemical fertilizers are usually different, and much more sketchy in order to benefit the petroleum industry, and stimulate more economic exchange around petroleum itself.

At this rate this outdoor queen is gonna finish in late Aug. Early Sept.

My indoor soil itself minus the ferts is 2 parts coir, 1 part homemade composted random stuff, 1 part 50/50 mix rock ust and hardwood ash, and 1 part perlite, for a five part mix...other than that I , just blend in a couple cups of my ecosystem in a bag organics per gallon of soil...last through flower no problem and has never given me any deficiencies OR over efficiencies, cannis seems to like the micro fauna in the Jobe's fertilizer a LOT..


The soil doesnt look or smell very tasty compared to my old coir buckets with roots or GH, but man, it works a treat


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Nevar44]
    #815217 - 06/18/16 10:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Cant lol or I would...my schedule just barwly lets me keep up with their schedule as it is lol. When they go a little dry I have to have a buffer of time to get to them as im not always around and every time I trust someone to handle them a few days VERY bad things always happen lol.

I used to run a lot more perlite when I ran coir, but I also need to moisture to sit around a bit longer now so my mychorhyzal fungi and bacteria stay cultured well and dont have to reculture every other day do to const wetting and drying cycle.

Basically, its easier this way and still works out well.

On another subject, I went out and did some very mild LST to open the outdoor queen up a bit.  She looks like she's loving all the sunlight :3







She's reaching for that SUN!!!! Is a good day for growing...high 70s, not too humid, not a cloud in the sky...love it!!!

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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Nevar44]
    #815221 - 06/18/16 10:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'd use peat but when I do gnats always drive me nuts lolol...I fucking hate gnats!!!!!!! XD

Surprisingly only see one every now and then with my current mix.

Indoor puny plant porn lol...wish I had put more effort Into getting the fatass's canopy as even as the lanky..would make more efficient use of the t5...tis the cost of missing a lot of the beginning of the grow and relying partly on others :lol:

Lanky first...gonna use a little bit less nitrogen in the mix , if I run her again, the sativa in her dna apparently wants NO n2 during flower...she could be fatter at this point I know it.








And fatass...she is really really hard to get close enough to get focused shots to see the resin, shes just starting to ramp it up. Gonna have to wait for fattening nugs for good porn of her. Is gonna be worth the wait

Anyone else see some of that skunk from the momma coming out in those pistils? :cool: I do lol




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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815377 - 06/20/16 02:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Turned off the 6500k t5 for a few mins to get some good pics under the warm white side lighting, they seem to show the actuall color of the plants a bit better than the 6500k does mixed with the warm whites in photo (running a mixed spectrum atm because i am NOT growing this round for concentrates, and going for dry flower lol)

fatass queen as of this morning, still behind lanky for some reason, mybe it because shes concentrating on making some seeds





And my lanky, flowering out a bit quicker than im used to for whatever reason, she likes the jobe's xD. this is probably the last time im gonna rn the lanky queen though, i have better hybrids laying around i still need to pop some more of.






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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815488 - 06/21/16 03:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Outdoor Fatass Queen responded quite nicely to the mild LST. And shes already throwing out some glandular trichs on a few of the fan leaves :cool::blazed:










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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #815539 - 06/22/16 02:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thank ya kindly!

I am quite pleased with my results when I compare them to my monetary investment in the hobby :wink: which still sits, including electricity, under $120 a YEAR.

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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #815581 - 06/22/16 10:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well, when I actually add it up without guessing, including electricity its more like $250 a year, but assuming I produce more than an ounce n a half (lolol) in that year ive saved money lol. I smoke less than a gram a day in flower weight so a small t5 setup and an outdoor plant or two is more than enough for me :cool:

Especially considering the quality, my smoke tends to be much nicer then the local stuff available at stupidly high prices around here. People here love to grow tons of plants and crop it early and lightly compress it to make their money. Their primary concern is quantity and not quality. Same with local wax around here, most is made unpurged with shitty gas station lighter butane.

Cant wait for the medical laws to go into effect....

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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #815588 - 06/23/16 01:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i veg at 18/6, and is only MAX 350 watts (two 156 watt t5 panels and cfl side lighting) and thats if im running a full 6 plants and fill it up.

and i only veg for MAX 3-4 weeks, and make my yeild in plant count over plant size so i can veg a smaller amount of time, i actually get better yeilds this way in faster time, atm i cant use my full setup though, had to use the closet for temporary storage, is just one t5 panel and some cfl's on two plants currently, gonna try and make my yeild back up with my outdoor queen.

so 40/52 weeks a year im running 12/12 only and my yeilds are actually better than when i ran 2-4 large plants or a single DWC plant. :cool: i start plants on a table directly under a 42 watt 6500k cfl since inconsistencies in lighting during veg dont seem to do much harm. works great till they are large enough for me to flower in my setup when im running 6.

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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #815619 - 06/23/16 01:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You can usually find 42 watt CFLs that put out about 2500 lumenseach, is a 175 watt incandescent equivalent.

I have found that ONE of these can veg a seedling up to 3-4 weeks (depending on how fast it grows) without any stretching.

Obviously if you veg longer than that you may need two per plant

They work great and only cost about $10 each at Walmart.

And if you feel like scaring yourself, go lookup what toxic heavy metals and chemicals are used in GH nutes...

Is full arsenic, lead, nickel,zinc, among other unwanted things..there is huge reason I stick to organics marketed for food production.

Although tbh, my best yeild ever from a single plant came from a DWC plant I was using GH flora series is on,and the bud was dank as fuck xD 4.8 ounces from a single 40" indoor plant under 340 watts of t5 and cfl :0...couldn't get anywhere near that with my current organicsoil mix the quickly...would have to veg for like 2 months

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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #815637 - 06/23/16 11:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Baron_Samedi said:
Cool yea I just ordered a few different bulbs just waiting on delivery couple cfls a different type of led throw em all at the wall and see what sticks lol I am leaning more to aeroponics so toxins in mineral salts and micro nutes are always gonna be an issue but they are also naturally occurring so I'm confident the plant knows what to do with them I think keeping a clean system will help as well

my buddy is working on an organic super soil that he wants me to try i may give it a go  in the next few months




Thats basically what I do, mix an organic, "just add ph neutral water" mix, has multiple sources of composting organic materials and quite he list of beneficial bacteria, mycorhyzal fungi, ectomycorhyzal fungi, and archaea, has bone, blood, and feather meal, sulfate of potash, and composted poultry manure as well as a few different grain flours to feed the fungi. Mixed with coir, fresh compost and perlite (perlite is hugely important, without it I would have constant root rot problems in this mix, oxygen in some amount at least HAS to get to the root zone or slowly anaerobic bacteria will take over and poison your plant with hydrogen sulfid, which is basically farts) Works a charm, and no worries about over nuting, undernuting, or ph issues since the soil ecosystem holds ph stable for you where they deem their host plant prefers it. The actual full list of material for the soil is quite long and I dont remember it all atm. (Isnt as complicated as it seems, is basically assembled from pre made/mixed ingredients that came from home depot xD) my plants basically grow from a natural, fully formed, soil ecosystem.

My yeilds are on average only about 2/3 what they where when I was running chemical fertilizer, but man they just look so much healthier and happier, even the green chlorophyl itself seems to be almost a different shade when done organically. I trust the fungus lol.

and metals are really only an issue if you , mae it one, very few people are sensitive to the metals gh is high in, I still just like to use organics when I can. They often have as much or more but I kinda agree, the plants know what to do

Pic of the Lanky Queen because why not? When your this sexy you deserve some glamour shots :wink:  37 days into 12/12....probably 3-4 weeks left

Actually ditched the t5 yesterday and added some more 42 wTt cfl's to make up for it. The fatass is too uneven a canopy this round, had to make a compromise do to my lack of training her before flower, didnt want to back the lights off the lanky queen anymore than I already had.








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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815717 - 06/24/16 07:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Had some INTENSE storms last night, almost two inches of rain in two hours.

Outdoor queen handled it fine, just a bit droopy from all the excess water, got a good fresh layer of loam deposited from the creek near by though :cool: so next couple weeks of nutes done once i rake a bit of it down into the weeds and shit around her base, they will grow back in and cover it within 48 hours here and all trace of any raking will be gone :lol:





How do you like my camo? She blends in quite nicely


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #815722 - 06/24/16 08:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

there is a quarter mile of briars, blackberries, and sticker bushes in all directions around it, and once your more than 20 feet away you cant even see it, like, at all, if you dont want to go through those you have to go through my house out to the back yard and walk 3/4 a mile off property to find it :lol: im gettin a good workout checking in on her, is the edge of a 20x20 foot clearing way off in nowhere lol. Is also black bear territory and i carry a few cans of bear mace with me...you wan this plant?....good luck!!! lololololol, we're classed deciduous rainforest! better bring a machete'!

and a few of my cfls in there are 3500k and one is 6500k, rest are 2700...so its a nice even color for guaging color of foliage and things like that.

a lot of HPS growers will take pics with flash within the first minute or two after lights out. the logic there is almost every single plant outside sees a few hundred lightning strikes at night before harvest and they do fine. could also keep a couple cfls rigged up to flip on for a minute to turn off the HPS to get some proper pics/

On the subject of light leaks and light during dark cycle... I also have never been able to stress a hermie from small and changing light leaks contrary to popular belief....

a long time ago, before all the light pollution you could actually see every single visable from earth star at night from all surfaces on the planet, and the moon in Full was about 25% brighter...and sometimes was behind clouds, sometimes wasnt, would look like it dances around place to place because of this, and some nights its never seen at all...

when someone tells me minor* light leaks and inconsistencies cause hermie i cant help but laugh a little on the inside.:lol: My flower box is just a cupboard i close during night cycle, has a few leaks here and there, but is always at least as dark as a full moon night....this is ALL you need...i have NO problems with hermies. when i do its always been when running fem seed or fighting spider mites :wink: i have even sat in the darkness with the box open and my computer screen pointing the opposite direction of the box, once my eyes adjust im able to clearly watch them as they sleep under the dim background glow of my labtop, i love doing this when im working a third shift schedule because i never get to chill with them during lights on...the difference between day and night is more than dramatic enough that ive never had an issue doing this.

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