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Thought i'd throw up a couple shots of two Special Queen x original Afghani I have running under some t5..only a couple right now to help save on power..ac is running constantly right now. Both are right at 26 days flower, 32 days 12/12
First one is a clone of my recessive lanky pheno...I just call her the lanky queen. Sadly didnt have any clones ready to start the outdoor season this year. My only outdoors were from seed lol. She is way to lanky and stretchy for indoor under t5 obviously, I just wanted to see what would happen. Have been concentrating on "other" ethnobotanicals this season.
And a clone of one of my more indica phenos...I affectionately call her the fatass queen her yeilds are great and her buds are very kushy Not as potent as the lanky queen but yeilds indoor are MUCH better
In another week or two they will start to REALLY pack on the resin glands, the fatass phenos seem to do a LOT of work in the last few week as one would expect of an indica dom. The recessive phenos tend to go fairly steady throughout flower...lots of pheno variance since its a first gen cross, but some are some true gems to work with
More shots of the indoors u.der t5 and cfl side light...gonna cola up nicely for small flourescent plants hitting that part of the grow we all know where the wait becomes meddening
Lanky Queen...she's gonna have a good bit of sugary trim for a little chunk of hash or a precure spliff lol
Fatass Queen (shes way harder to get good pics of)
Which queen? Fatass or lanky? Outdoor? I call them all afghani queens, or just queens... watered this morning and lanky droops every time she gets a thorough wTering for a few hours. Always bounces back
If you tLking about the yellowing leaves with brown spots on the bottom of the fatass thats because I lolipopped the premie buds those leaves were feeding a week ago or so. They wernt getting enough light to do anything but hermie, and now the plant is letting them die and is consuming them for their nutrition because they are no longer necessary, since shes a purely organic plant she is doing that all in the name of effeciency lol
If your talking out the bud leaves pointing down, the fatass just does that, just one of her traits lol
She actualy gets that downward angles bud leaf trait from her momma :3 Special Queen #1... the fatass queen is actually somewhere under that frost in this pic lololol, she got seeded early on in flower
Nope...shes gonna have 30-50 babies . Enough for me and friends (feel free to pm if you want some, would be down for a genetics swap with a half dozen beans or more) Polenated with some more seedsman afghani #1 lol. Genetic would be (Special Queen #1 x Afghani #1) x Afghani #1 (dnt worry, is not the same male afghani as the first father plant...no inbreeding here ....Not worried Bout yeild loss...outdoor is a damn neaar identical phenotype
When you pollenate early and carefully you still get a lot of seed free calyx develop over the seeded ones. And each bud is still plenty dank, just has a few seeds in each nug near the center stem
Those pics are a few days old...the pollenated hairs have alreay gone all red now..calyxes to swell shortly
Quote: Nevar44 said: I'm talking about the pistals that turned orange on the tips prematurely?
My bb and blue knight the bottom leaves point downward also can be anoyying first time around not knowing that lol
Actually, looking closely your right...there are some orange tips on pistils I didnt even get pollen anywhere near. Must have a bit too much air flow on her lol, gonna bump the fan down a setting
Also, my outdoor is going Into flower a couple weeks ahead of schedule lol
Gonna go ahead and call it...outdoor day 1 flower 6/16/16---- Possible autoflower characteristic maybe? Days still getting longer.
The easiest way to tell if your fertilizer is food grade, is...is it marketed as vegetable food? Or just "multi plant food"
Companies have to bend to meet certain consumer guidelines to be able to market organics for the purpose of food production, the laws surrounding chemical fertilizers are usually different, and much more sketchy in order to benefit the petroleum industry, and stimulate more economic exchange around petroleum itself.
At this rate this outdoor queen is gonna finish in late Aug. Early Sept.
My indoor soil itself minus the ferts is 2 parts coir, 1 part homemade composted random stuff, 1 part 50/50 mix rock ust and hardwood ash, and 1 part perlite, for a five part mix...other than that I , just blend in a couple cups of my ecosystem in a bag organics per gallon of soil...last through flower no problem and has never given me any deficiencies OR over efficiencies, cannis seems to like the micro fauna in the Jobe's fertilizer a LOT..
The soil doesnt look or smell very tasty compared to my old coir buckets with roots or GH, but man, it works a treat
Cant lol or I would...my schedule just barwly lets me keep up with their schedule as it is lol. When they go a little dry I have to have a buffer of time to get to them as im not always around and every time I trust someone to handle them a few days VERY bad things always happen lol.
I used to run a lot more perlite when I ran coir, but I also need to moisture to sit around a bit longer now so my mychorhyzal fungi and bacteria stay cultured well and dont have to reculture every other day do to const wetting and drying cycle.
Basically, its easier this way and still works out well.
On another subject, I went out and did some very mild LST to open the outdoor queen up a bit. She looks like she's loving all the sunlight :3
She's reaching for that SUN!!!! Is a good day for growing...high 70s, not too humid, not a cloud in the sky...love it!!!
I'd use peat but when I do gnats always drive me nuts lolol...I fucking hate gnats!!!!!!! XD
Surprisingly only see one every now and then with my current mix.
Indoor puny plant porn lol...wish I had put more effort Into getting the fatass's canopy as even as the lanky..would make more efficient use of the t5...tis the cost of missing a lot of the beginning of the grow and relying partly on others
Lanky first...gonna use a little bit less nitrogen in the mix , if I run her again, the sativa in her dna apparently wants NO n2 during flower...she could be fatter at this point I know it.
And fatass...she is really really hard to get close enough to get focused shots to see the resin, shes just starting to ramp it up. Gonna have to wait for fattening nugs for good porn of her. Is gonna be worth the wait
Anyone else see some of that skunk from the momma coming out in those pistils? I do lol
Turned off the 6500k t5 for a few mins to get some good pics under the warm white side lighting, they seem to show the actuall color of the plants a bit better than the 6500k does mixed with the warm whites in photo (running a mixed spectrum atm because i am NOT growing this round for concentrates, and going for dry flower lol)
fatass queen as of this morning, still behind lanky for some reason, mybe it because shes concentrating on making some seeds
And my lanky, flowering out a bit quicker than im used to for whatever reason, she likes the jobe's xD. this is probably the last time im gonna rn the lanky queen though, i have better hybrids laying around i still need to pop some more of.
Quote: Baron_Samedi said: Cool yea I just ordered a few different bulbs just waiting on delivery couple cfls a different type of led throw em all at the wall and see what sticks lol I am leaning more to aeroponics so toxins in mineral salts and micro nutes are always gonna be an issue but they are also naturally occurring so I'm confident the plant knows what to do with them I think keeping a clean system will help as well
my buddy is working on an organic super soil that he wants me to try i may give it a go in the next few months
Thats basically what I do, mix an organic, "just add ph neutral water" mix, has multiple sources of composting organic materials and quite he list of beneficial bacteria, mycorhyzal fungi, ectomycorhyzal fungi, and archaea, has bone, blood, and feather meal, sulfate of potash, and composted poultry manure as well as a few different grain flours to feed the fungi. Mixed with coir, fresh compost and perlite (perlite is hugely important, without it I would have constant root rot problems in this mix, oxygen in some amount at least HAS to get to the root zone or slowly anaerobic bacteria will take over and poison your plant with hydrogen sulfid, which is basically farts) Works a charm, and no worries about over nuting, undernuting, or ph issues since the soil ecosystem holds ph stable for you where they deem their host plant prefers it. The actual full list of material for the soil is quite long and I dont remember it all atm. (Isnt as complicated as it seems, is basically assembled from pre made/mixed ingredients that came from home depot xD) my plants basically grow from a natural, fully formed, soil ecosystem.
My yeilds are on average only about 2/3 what they where when I was running chemical fertilizer, but man they just look so much healthier and happier, even the green chlorophyl itself seems to be almost a different shade when done organically. I trust the fungus lol.
and metals are really only an issue if you , mae it one, very few people are sensitive to the metals gh is high in, I still just like to use organics when I can. They often have as much or more but I kinda agree, the plants know what to do
Pic of the Lanky Queen because why not? When your this sexy you deserve some glamour shots 37 days into 12/12....probably 3-4 weeks left
Actually ditched the t5 yesterday and added some more 42 wTt cfl's to make up for it. The fatass is too uneven a canopy this round, had to make a compromise do to my lack of training her before flower, didnt want to back the lights off the lanky queen anymore than I already had.
Had some INTENSE storms last night, almost two inches of rain in two hours.
Outdoor queen handled it fine, just a bit droopy from all the excess water, got a good fresh layer of loam deposited from the creek near by though so next couple weeks of nutes done once i rake a bit of it down into the weeds and shit around her base, they will grow back in and cover it within 48 hours here and all trace of any raking will be gone
How do you like my camo? She blends in quite nicely
changes in photoperiod most definitely can cause herms, that most definitely doesnt exist in nature, (although ive never noticed a problem with changing light intensities, on your average partly cloudy day my plant will see that happen for two or three minutes every 20 or so, and the last 36 hours have been largely cloudy. i was mainly saying light leaks and changes in small amounts of light and intensity as long as it never falls TOO low are very very unlikely to cause problems in my experience. a lot of growers stress it like mad and go nuts with light leak prevention and duct tape because they think that is whats causing their herms, not their carelessly produced fem seed.
and id say too much vegetation, slow flowering, dark shiny greens, and those slight hooked leaf tips are more likely too much abundant n2 through flower than light leaks... (i guarantee the half moon to half moon over the full moon cycle which lasts for two weeks is brighter than whatever light leaks your getting if you have tried to keep it dark at all) especially if growing in hydro or soiless mediums, i had to watch nitrogen and PH when doing hydro like a hawk ( a ph swing can even cause uptake of too much n2 in relation to other minerals, in flower very little to none is really required, they can usually manufacture most the n2 they need when in hydro under plenty of light. (in veg, excess n2 is usually a good thing however since you want all that foliage development)
heres something you may have already seen, it's a good ph chart and what nutrients are best uptaken at what ph when in a hydroponic and soiless environment, if you havn't seen it its very useful, i kept it pprinted out and laminated above my closes when i was doing DWC obviously in flower you want a MUCH higher PK ratio in relation to N, i go from 5-4-6 (i think) in veg to 2-7-4 in flower in my current soil, and it looks like my lanky pheno wouldnt have really needed any nitrogen during flower for the most part. chart there for any soil medium (any medium with a biological root buffer basically) growers that may come across this journal and find it useful as well.
not trying to "school" you or anything, just trying to help with what information i have lol
Managed to snap a few shots of the lanky Queen with a flash in the few seconds before lights came on this morning...she a true beauty!!!!! Even if she's small and only gonna yeild like 16 grams :3 expecting realistically anywhere between 12-14 grams from a lanky queen this small....
this first pic is literally the SMALLES top nug on the plant, is just up front and easy to get pics of lol. ones behind is are easily twice the size. Shes gonna be a nice, skunky sativa dom day smoke
Lights came on before i got to fatass, shes frosting up nicely now, but she still has too much foliage to focus in on the buds, sadly probably no good porn of her till final week/harvest xD...expecting probably only 12-14 grams from her thanks to my errors in mixing the nutrients for the soil. roots organics Buddha Bloom to the rescue!!! IF is similar to last clone of her, she is an UBER couchlock Sadly i should have been able to yeild at least 3 quarters (21) off a fatass clone this size, oh well, we all make mistakes some times lol
you can see a bit of the trichome production in this pic, but she doesnt like to frost over her fan leaves and it always makes it hard to get good bud porn from her, cameras dont like to focus up close with her.
Outdoor queen is growing like a weed, an inch or more a day....pun intended, starting to look a lot like an intermediary pheno between the fatass and lanky, still regretting not taking clones.
For some reason I feel , like shes gonna be some suuuuuuper dank smoke
And heres my first lighter nug shots that everyone hates doing this long before the final swell...still 3 weeks+ left to go ...not gonna be bad at all for a 13" plant primarily cfl run...i may keep the lanky queen around yet. Just wish she didnt stretch at the flip so much, had to lolipop quite a bit of her.
Still quite sad I fucked up Fatass' nutes...she should be easily twice this fat by now...I know this clone as quite a good yeilder for a 7 week strain
I wouldnt go over ph 6.2 in hydo ever for cannabis. Higher starts to lock out micro nutes and ALL manganese and iron...just my two cents there lol, I always raised it from 5.5 to 6 even during flower. if you lockout manganese and iron your phosphorus uptake will drop making your n2 raise in relation to the other essential nutrients for flowering. pay very very close attention to that diagram, itll save you many runs of hair pulling, keep in 5.5 to 6 if possible in hydro or completely inert mediums running chemical nutrients. below 5.5 and youll end up with schorched leaves and heavy metal build ups.
Throwing in 7 more afghani queen beans, first four to pop make the cut, out of those hoping for two new female phenos to mess with, maybe make another mother plant. This plate will be tossed on my cable box in the living room, will keep it at about 85-90 F. Most the beans will usually pop within 36 hours. the ones that dont sadly get the cut, i have WAY too many of these seeds to bother with the slow ones. Years from now i will probably still be poppin some afghani queens for nostalgia, gonna store em in the freezer and pass em down as my "first homemade cross" xD Maybe ill stabilize it and make it available at some point who knows.
Mixed the same soil as last time making DAMN sure I got the full dose of nutes, and all the garins, minerals, and ash id need and whatnot. Only difference this time is I increased perlite content by 50% so I can get more than two waterings a week in
And I dont think sensimilla plants are EVER happy, the reason theyre so dank is because we grow them under MAJOR Sexual tension, most die virgins xD
And heres a candid upskirt of the same lanky queen clone Im running grown by a friend of mine, is under 3100k t5, GH Flora Nova series in coco/perlite. Is 8 days in flower ahead of mine. He didnt send me a pic of the whole thing, is about twice the size of mine xD vegged for 6 weeksish I think
looks good you say?
well this is the SAME lanky queen clone flowering under purely 6500k t5 two weeks from finishing, same point as my buddies clone cut, and this is why i prefer 6500k t5 to 2700k, shorter fatter hairs, smaller denser buds, same long skinny fan leaves, but still those are more compact as well, even the vein spacing in the leaves is narrower, bud leaveas are a bit shorter and fatter like the hairs, like its trying to shield its calyxes a bit, but for whatever reason, that spectrum of florescent shoots the trichome production THROUGH THE ROOF, which also makes me think they are involved in some sort of defense mechanism, that and the fact when a gnat lands and eats a glandular trich it dies in a few seconds xD, i have a few a week i have to tweezer off a leaf. was also grown in a basement at the time that NEVER got above 75 day time, 68 night time, may be a factor as well
feel free to blow the image up and notice there are many areas where trichs are stacked standing room only
OVERALL YEILD IN CONCENTRATE PER PRODUCTION DOES NOT CHANGE, OFTEN GOES UP, effectively implying ounce for ounce MUCH higher potency in the ratio of goody amount to basic plant matter
So far this grow I have learned:
1. Use bigger pots in relation to the size of the plant when trying to grow smaller plants...that ratio does NOT scale evenly xD
2. My Fatass needs more food than what I gave it this round lolololololol
Looking at my results with the lanky so far, I think im gonna have it nailed next time. Same mix as lanky, bigger pot, 50% more perlite. not worried about this making it overdose in nutes, the sybiotic ecosystem IF functioning properly should feed the plant exactly what it needs, when it needs it, i think thats the super soil theory anyway. will be doubling pot size to compensate for the extra space taken by inert medium.
More indoor porn....having issues with editing last post so sorry for triple posting, cant do anything about it atm.
Lanky Queen...Day 41 of 12/12...probably 36ish days of actual flowering.t
Fatass Queen....Day 41 of 12/12. Shes FINALLY starting to become a little more photogenic, ut I fu ked her mix BAD this round, bud density, size, and teich peoduction suffered, I know what the fatass clone can do, and this AINT it. She should be noticebly fatter than lanky at this point, not noticeablt smaller...she will make some decent hash in the end most likely. Shes healthy but obviously i havn't given her the resources she needs to be all she can lol, shes probably gonna get the cut early in the next few days to make room for another clone to try again.
About to hit that part we all live for....the home stretch swell If I wasnt waiting on her seeds I would have already pulled her up and remixed her soil to replace her with another fatass clone...shes healthy, but coming along much slower than usual with far less resin.
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her yeilds are great and her buds are very kushy 
Not as potent as the lanky queen but yeilds indoor are MUCH better 
hitting that part of the grow we all know where the wait becomes meddening 
