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Baron_Samedi
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400w HID First Time Indoor Soil Grow White Widow
#808785 - 03/26/16 02:25 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hello Everyone!
So this is my first grow log so bare with me...
I started 5 fem. White Widow seeds on 3/21/16 and all of them sprouted on the 2nd day this morning 3/25/16 I picked out the best three to go in to soil and in to my 2'x4'x5' tent with my 400w MH cheap ass setup my soil mix is just coco coir, Perlite, and topsoil It has been about 16 years since I grew bud and all this inside growing and nutrients are very new to me I was taught to use basicly trash for my compost soil mixes outside but not gonna drag that crap inside my house so I'm using General Hydroponics nutes and following directions I was gonna do side by side tests and all kinds of other nonsense but I think it was just excitement so I'm just gonna keep it simple this run and see how it goes the other two sprouts are sitting on my window sill right now I'm gonna put those in to my buddies super soil to see what happens but that's about it... as you can see I had a little issue with these new fangled smart pots the top looked dry so I went to water them and boom water all over the fucking place apparently they were just fine so says the soil tester thing... let me know if I'm missing anything and any advice is appreciated Mahalo for reading!
The Road So Far...
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Re: 400w HID First Time Indoor Soil Grow White Widow [Re: Nevar44]
#808801 - 03/26/16 04:28 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks man yea I know my pots are huge it's what I have and I wasn't thinking when I transplanted to use like cups or whatever the roots on those were really aggressive grew through the plug and was curling at the bottom of the dish so I freaked and popped em in to soil so I am checking them more than usual about every 12 hrs all the spilled water is gone and the moisture is still great I have the other two in small cups I have a habit of putting plants in huge pots I have always just let my plants do their thing with minimal interference water,feed, and tend if it needs it... I am having ano issue figuring how high my lights need to be right now they are about 1' away is that about right?
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Re: 400w HID First Time Indoor Soil Grow White Widow [Re: resincoatedlungs]
#808858 - 03/27/16 07:01 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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thanks I'll change that up and see no stress signs yet but a bit hard to tell this young I moved it down from about 2ft because they looked like they were reaching a lot for light
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Re: 400w HID First Time Indoor Soil Grow White Widow [Re: Baron_Samedi]
#808951 - 03/29/16 01:23 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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well changed the hight and it looks good the soil tester thing says it's still norm+ so I'll take that as fine no very exciting pics but the little guys are moving
Oh also got P.alba cuttings and Calea Z sprouts in there too
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Edited by Baron_Samedi (03/29/16 01:27 AM)
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Re: 400w HID First Time Indoor Soil Grow White Widow [Re: Nevar44]
#808955 - 03/29/16 02:32 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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yea after resin mentioned it I went to check and saw they were ducking down so I'm moved it up like 6" the back two bent cause I accidently sprayed them both hard with a narrow stream when I was messing with my water bottle it slipped from my hands and when I caught it it shot everywhere and pinned those little guys to the dirt so I had to carefully pull them out but they were now top heavy with droplets so I just let them go I didn't want to mess with them as much as possible
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Re: 400w HID First Time Indoor Soil Grow White Widow [Re: Baron_Samedi]
#809133 - 04/01/16 02:44 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Day 10
still just little ladies the other two are going in to 3gal bags with my buddies super soil tomorrow night pretty interested to see how that's gonna do
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Re: 400w HID First Time Indoor Soil Grow White Widow [Re: Baron_Samedi]
#809666 - 04/04/16 10:32 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Day 13 ok so a few changes... First I added one 1gal Hydro bucket for shits and giggles though I used a soft plug for my seeds instead of rockwool so i had to fill the gaps with random shit i have laying around and I learned a valuable lesson do not foliar spray with nutes I like to spray my plants when they are little to build up stem strength but some of my leaves look burned so I sprayed them well with water and moved my light a few inches up to make sure it's not toasting them it's getting pretty hot these days so I may have to do a bucket A/C deal in there...
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Re: 400w HID First Time Indoor Soil Grow White Widow [Re: Baron_Samedi]
#809731 - 04/05/16 05:52 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Day 14 yup it's hot as hell in the tent it was 92 degrees so I had to change up my light cycle from 24hrs to 20/4 switch from noon to 4 the hottest times but added a supplemental LED flood light I was gonna use for flowering now using in the dark 4hrs so now my hid is at 24" from the top of the tallest plant also turned my shot gun bucket I'm gonna use for myco co2 in to a hillbilly A/C when I go in to flower I'll have space for 4 oyster logs but for now I'm gonna do a yeast jar just waiting for my fermenting caps to come in
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Re: 400w HID First Time Indoor Soil Grow White Widow [Re: Baron_Samedi]
#810745 - 04/13/16 11:44 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Day 23
so over hauled the set up again I'm not sure why but all of my plants stalled except they sample hydro and one of the newly potted window seedling so I converted the rest to hydro in a med size tote about 5gal and kept the one potted seedling and everything seems much happier I also started a couple more seeds... 1 Agent Orange 1 Dreamin OG 1 KAT 1 KAT x Fucking Incredible But only the Agent Orange and Dreamin OG popped they are regular seeds so praying for females but those are the 2 seedlings on the right side of the grow and they just took off and are catching up quick!
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Re: 400w HID First Time Indoor Soil Grow White Widow [Re: Nevar44]
#810806 - 04/14/16 03:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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yea they didn't do anything but the Agent Orange popped easy like the Dreamin OG just lmk bro the blueberry sounds great but it's not your fault man
I'm learning inside growing is a very different monster than outside grows they both have different needs and you really have to retrain your thinking and start from scratch it's very humbling and I'm always happy to learn something new
on a side note I just added a fermenting jar to add some co2 but I knocked up some grain and other cult mediums to do a couple 1ft pink oyster logs to hang in the corners I have never been able to fruit oysters here but these are supposed to handle the temp so we will see either way I'll get something out of it
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Re: 400w HID First Time Indoor Soil Grow White Widow [Re: Grit]
#810873 - 04/14/16 09:26 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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yea buddy good luck to you too that one seedling is only a little older than a week I'm so stoked on how fast both those seedlings are catching up but also worried about weak stems so I've been knocking em around a bit more than the others
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Re: 400w HID First Time Indoor Soil Grow White Widow [Re: Nevar44]
#810897 - 04/15/16 03:12 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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yea I mean when they get a bit bigger I'm gonna use the 4 posts and some jump cord to make my first "screen" then before flower either hang wire for the top screen or lace one out of jump cord depending how the first one does but I'm gonna wait till they get tallied enough to work around the filter that's when I'll be worried about them
I kinda wanted to try shaping one of my plants like a crazy bonsai but most likely I'm gonna do that with the dirt one if it lags behind the others too much
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Re: 400w HID First Time Indoor Soil Grow White Widow [Re: Baron_Samedi]
#810985 - 04/16/16 04:46 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Day 26
...and alls well!!!
Those little ladies are taking off man super stoked I have also been seeing these "sock jug" Hydro/Aero grow system that wicks water with an old sock pretty nifty idea I made a couple variations for fun with crap I had around the house I can't start anymore at the moment but I wanna see if they will hold up Im also constructing a mini grow tent so I can start some new seeds or veg some cuttings while my main tent is flowering I was just gonna use my small hydro bucket for that but I may try the sock jug first it would be cool to not have to run another air pump if it works I'll make another grow log with the weird little projects and tweaks
Edited by Baron_Samedi (04/16/16 04:49 AM)
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Re: 400w HID First Time Indoor Soil Grow White Widow [Re: Baron_Samedi]
#811009 - 04/16/16 02:43 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Day 26...still...
Yup so I couldn't wait to try out the sock jug and I did a little test with my soil meter I've been using and it is horribly off its like opposite of what it reads I gotta get a better one i felt bad for spending so much at one time I skimped on the little things that weren't so important boy was I wrong lesson learned invest in good monitoring equipment it will save so much time...
As for the jug I used an empty candy container and a stray ankle sock I would say not to use any sock with a prominent heel cause it makes the plant sit funny inside the sock toe is cut off and I used a zip tie to lightly hold things together I slipped the roots down the sock and tighten up the tie just enough for the coir mix to stay in place I really just pulled the rooting plug with a hand full of coir took a hand full of pebbles and mixed in the sock then layered more pebbles on top to keep the plant stable I placed the holes by the fan to keep the air moving and I used the same hydro mix I could see how this can work air flow and stagnant water are my biggest concerns I might add more h202 in this mix just because there is no water movement but I'll give it a week before I do anything else
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Re: 400w HID First Time Indoor Soil Grow White Widow [Re: resincoatedlungs]
#811154 - 04/17/16 05:41 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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actually talking multi function ph, light meter, soil dampness, soil temp things like that but now that I'm transitioning to hydro the point is moot unless there is something that can monitor nutrient contents in the water but Ive never looked for anything like that...
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Re: 400w HID First Time Indoor Soil Grow White Widow [Re: Baron_Samedi]
#811212 - 04/18/16 05:33 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Day 28 (4 weeks)
Well moving in to aggressive growth feeding schedule gradually my agent orange on the top righten the very edge of the leaves are turning up not sure if just more hungry than the others so I'm gonna try foliar feeding for a bit to see what happens and the sock jug is doing worse then the soil so I'm gonna take that out when my new pump and stuff come in tomorrow I was gonna isolate the biggest widow in a separate bucket but now seeing this agent orange it might be better to isolate that one so I don't risk over feeding the others
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Re: 400w HID First Time Indoor Soil Grow White Widow [Re: Baron_Samedi]
#811314 - 04/19/16 10:43 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Day 29
so I ordered another small pump for a single bucket and my germ/cutting system but it came with a European plug so after some modification I got my sick ass plant in to the bucket today also did some minor trimming now I'm done tweaking the set up now just focusing on feeding and screening when they get bigger I get my multifunction ppm meter tomorrow so I'm stoked to see what's up... as for that agent orange it seems like a mutation and not a feeding issue any input on that issue would be great
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Re: 400w HID First Time Indoor Soil Grow White Widow [Re: Nevar44]
#811322 - 04/20/16 12:13 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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sound advice I'll try it I only say mutation because it dosent seem to be effecting the growth rate at all and it looks feels and smells healthy I may be seeing what I want to see and I think I saw pics of mutated leaves while I was searching for an albino strain of weed that's not light bleached I don't remember what site it was I followed a long ass link train to get there but I'll look for it again and I never found any albino or variegated striped strain that wasn't burnt or nutes either low or high but I did find a lot of cool leaf mutations weird fingers non serrated etc very cool looking I'll search for it and get back to you
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Re: 400w HID First Time Indoor Soil Grow White Widow [Re: Baron_Samedi]
#811425 - 04/21/16 02:54 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Day 30
meter didn't come yet... but I found where they were taking about upturned leaves and I misread it they said it might be humidity or heat issue so I'm just gonna keep misting it but I did find pics of an albino mutation grown outdoor and it was only one stem but cool as fuck looking I want one so bad lol
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Re: 400w HID First Time Indoor Soil Grow White Widow [Re: Baron_Samedi]
#811610 - 04/23/16 10:19 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Day 33
ok so I decided to throw my plants in to flower today they are pretty little but since the general consensus for indoor is to veg from 2 to 4 weeks I figured I'd give it a try so I'm changing out my bulb and going 12/12 on at midnight but for the first week I'm keeping on veg nutes since I just fed them...
Fresh off their first 12hr dark period 400w HPS 24" away from the tallest plant it runs a little hotter so I'm running my fan at 50% instead or the 20% I was using
Edited by Baron_Samedi (04/24/16 04:38 AM)
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