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 SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry 
#771142 - 03/06/15 10:57 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is my first log and it probably wont be very interesting because Im too lazy to go into much detail and I take shitty pictures but here it is anyway. I have 29 sativa dominant Advanced Seeds Kaya47 clones going right now and one nice healthy indica dominant Feminized Double Berry that I plan on turning into another SoG once the Kayas are finished.
So far Im already pretty far into this grow but have been taking pics for awhile so I'll post what has taken place so far and update from now on. Im pretty paranoid about this kind of shit so I dont know how long I'll leave them up.
I have an extremely small grow space, growing out of a 10 ft x 15 ft closet split in half for veg/flower. My veg lights are some random CFL's and this cheap LED that surprisingly has done a great job so far. I wouldn't even think about trying to flower with it but its fine for veg.
My flower light is a Hortilux 600W Super HPS powered by a cheap Apollo digital ballast.
The medium is coco/perlite, and Im using Canna A&B nutes. Ive tried growing in soil and had success but I LOVE coco. To me its much more forgiving and easier to control, although it is quite a bit more work with the constant feeding that is required.
This is the first pic I have, taken on Feb 3. The cuttings are from the Advanced Kaya47 and were just taken that day. I had a pic before I chopped them all up but I must have accidentally deleted it. The plant on the right is the Feminized Seeds Double Berry. Im keeping it as a mom until the Kaya's are almost ready to harvest because like I said before my space is extremely limited. It wasn't as unhappy as it looks in the pic, it was just taken about 20 minutes before lights out.
These next two pics were taken Feb 16th, the day I transferred my Kaya clones from the aerocloaner to the solo cups. The Double Berry was moved temporarily to my flower area since I didn't have anything flowering at the time and placed under some shitty CFL's.
These next two were taken 5 days later on Feb 21st, I have no rhyme or reason for when I decide take pics, these are just to show progress I guess. (I know I suck at logs, feel free to stop reading at anytime  )
And three days later on Feb 24th, notice the double Berry starting to stretch under the shitty CFL's...
These next two were taken four days later on Feb 28th, the Double Berry was moved back to the LED veg area and the Kaya's were finally moved to flower. I let my last SoG grow of Afghan Kush x Yumboldt get quite a bit taller before switching to flower because they were heavy indica dominate but these Kayas are sativa dominant so I decided to start flowering earlier expecting them to stretch. Coming up you'll see why.
And finally, these were taken today (3/6). The Double Berry is looking great and healthy as can be. The Kayas are as close to the 600W HPS as I can get them without causing heat problems but are still stretching way more than I anticipated (damn sativa) but are still growing well and very healthy.
If you notice in the DB pic I have three more of the Kayas still in veg, these were the runts that I havent decided what to do with yet.
I'll try to start taking better pics and keep this updated.
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: Deadkndys420] 1
#771147 - 03/06/15 11:50 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Should be fun to watch this one pan out. Good to see the LED is vegging well, that's pretty much all those cheap one's are good for. I'm still using some cheap generics in veg until they die completely.
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: phychotron]
#771207 - 03/08/15 08:23 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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3/8/15
DB getting too big for the tent, cant close it now. Need to cut it back but dont have room for anymore clones and nobody to give them to.
Kaya clones are stretching about an inch/day and are only about 24 inches from the HPS. Anyone think I should cut off the new branches so that when they do start to flower the plants energy will focus more on the main cola or should I just leave them alone?
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#771348 - 03/09/15 03:45 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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So last night I was messing with my timer and accidentally left it to outlet on all night instead of timer on.
My Kaya's havent had a lights out in 32 hours now and they're supposed to be on a 12/12 schedule. Hope they dont herm on me now.
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#771517 - 03/10/15 02:37 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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3/10 - Kaya 47's starting to flower
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#771546 - 03/10/15 07:16 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Did you have any problems last time with them getting rootbound and fucking up in those little cups?? I remember you saying before that thy did good. Somehow I've had issues even in veg with small cups. I think the soil is so rich and loamy they go nuts on me
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: oeric mckenna]
#771556 - 03/10/15 07:43 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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No problem at all last time and none so far this time. I grow in coco and feed everyday, dont know if that has anything to do with it or not. The last batch I did in solo cups did seem pretty root bound when I dumped after harvest but there werent any adverse effects from it, I got about a half oz per plant.
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#771564 - 03/10/15 09:03 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think everyone should try the 1L AirPot. It takes the same footprint as a 2 liter bottle but is ideal for small plants. I use them in early veg to prepare to transplant into a larger pot, but they dominate small plant growth.
Clone that was cut off the mother 27 days prior (aerocloner first week). I cut off the tips of the leaves of the original clone off, most of that is new growth.
Veg day 0(roots), day 1, day 12
  
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: phychotron]
#772362 - 03/16/15 06:48 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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3/16: Progressing nicely.
Double Berry - this thing is huge, especially for being in an only 1 gallon pot.
Kaya 47's
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#772664 - 03/17/15 10:22 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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nice grow dude
im surprised they get so big in just a dixie cup 
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: P-O]
#772702 - 03/18/15 08:03 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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I know, my last batch netted a half oz dry per cup. It was an indica strain though and they didn't stretch so much. These are sativas and I can already tell they're gonna need a lot of support once those buds start to mature.
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#773182 - 03/22/15 10:08 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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3/22: Everything going great. I think Im going to end up getting more than a half/cup from this batch!
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#773224 - 03/22/15 02:25 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Badass man. I hope you do
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: oeric mckenna]
#773695 - 03/25/15 11:27 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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what do you feed em (everyday?) ?
I like this idea of lots of small plants instead of a few big ones. mag seemed to have good success with dixie cup sog too
make sure too keep us updated. i wanna see how these these girls do 
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: P-O]
#773718 - 03/26/15 06:28 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Right now they're getting 600PPM Canna A&B. Once the buds are close to being fully developed I'll cut that in half for a week and replace it with Canna PK 13/14.
Ive tried several growing methods, and for a small space this is by far the best way to do it in my experience. I'll get three times the harvest than I would from four big plants (all I can fit).
The only downside is the everyday feeding. If I miss one day they'll wilt, so I really cant leave town for more than a day until they finish. And when they're done I'll have 30 clones from my Double Berry ready to take their place.
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#773726 - 03/26/15 09:10 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#773756 - 03/26/15 03:21 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maybe someday get some cheap fish tank parts and rig a simple hydro drip with your coco .
Then you could go camping n shit
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#773759 - 03/26/15 03:34 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah I thought about that, I probably will eventually.
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#775353 - 04/06/15 07:54 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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update?
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: P-O]
#775364 - 04/06/15 09:35 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'd get some Blumats to auto feed. I switched to Canna because they are good at holding up in the res tank. Canna is not going to clog the valves very often.
They are sweet because the valves operate only when the plant needs it. I grew 3 plants in half gallon pots of coco that each did 5 ounces each. Within a few minutes of the lights coming on you'll see the Blumats start to drip, then stop shortly after the lights are out. The roots form a huge bump up towards the drip line.
Amazon has a 12 pack for $69 shipped, whereas PlanetEarthHydro.com has the 12 for $85, but also have all the parts. By the time I ordered my second 12 pack I got some of the gray drip line to make things easier to run. Also good to have another tank connection. The connector is like $6 or the grommet is $.50. Both should work fine.
Passive non-recirculating on-demand hydroponics makes for no tank maintenance and easy feeding. The on-demand feed makes for amazing buds. Plus you can leave for as long as your tank will last-- and can just T another 5 gallon bucket into the feed line to feed longer.
Canna recommends ~10 days of PK not just a week. Gotta feel the plants out and see how they look and respond to the extra PK.
And did you ever try the Canna Boost and Rhizotonic replacement by MBFerts? I swear the stuff is well worth it. $60 for a 'gallon' bottle that will replace 5L of Boost ($500) and 5L of Rhizotonic ($200). The gallon is really a liter of super concentrate. Its brought out new flavor since I've switched and been able to afford to use it liberally.
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: phychotron]
#775386 - 04/07/15 08:30 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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A little over 5 weeks old, started PK 13/14 a few days ago. Everything going well except one hermed on me a week ago...coincidentally it was right next to the one I was spraying down to force male herm for pollen collection. I always moved it out of the grow room when I sprayed, so I doubt that has anything to do with it but who knows. All the rest are fine and showing no signs at all of herming.
4/7 (5 weeks):
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#775387 - 04/07/15 08:35 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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phych - thanks for the tip on the Blumats, never seen those before. And no I havent used any Boost or Rhizotonic (or replacements)...I like to keep it as simple as possible and I'm getting great results without them. I may try them out on my next grow.
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: phychotron]
#775389 - 04/07/15 09:41 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Is bringing out flavor all that stuff is good for? Does it increase your yield at all? It looks like you're supposed to use it with every feeding, how much does it effect your pH (raise/lower/or no change)? Do you ignore the increased PPM and feed like normal when using it or do you have to adjust the strength of your A&B?
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#775411 - 04/07/15 05:27 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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I feed like normal and haven't checked my ppm or pH in a long time. It mixes with the nutrients fine. Well worth it. It helps boost the flower production as well. He sells the $20 bottle but you need to buy $25 worth of stuff to get free shipping
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: phychotron]
#775412 - 04/07/15 05:30 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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I ordered a $60 gallon. Hope I notice something!
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: phychotron]
#775661 - 04/10/15 04:15 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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I feed like normal and haven't checked my ppm or pH in a long time. It mixes with the nutrients fine. Well worth it. It helps boost the flower production as well. He sells the $20 bottle but you need to buy $25 worth of stuff to get free shipping
I dont know how you get away with not checking your pH growing in coco, but I got the stuff today and it raised a gallon of neutral 7.0 RO water to 8.5. After adding my Pro-Tekt it went up to 9.3. That is extremely alkaline, after adding my nutes Im going to have to add a LOT of pH down to get down to 5.9-6.0. Looks like Im going to have to choose between the hor/vit or the silicon...
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#775738 - 04/11/15 02:41 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah man. no doubt.
I see a huge response in uptake keeping ph proper. the leaves point upward when I juice em.
Town ph where im at is over 8!
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#775745 - 04/11/15 09:14 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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I feed like normal and haven't checked my ppm or pH in a long time. It mixes with the nutrients fine. Well worth it. It helps boost the flower production as well. He sells the $20 bottle but you need to buy $25 worth of stuff to get free shipping
I dont know how you get away with not checking your pH growing in coco, but I got the stuff today and it raised a gallon of neutral 7.0 RO water to 8.5. After adding my Pro-Tekt it went up to 9.3. That is extremely alkaline, after adding my nutes Im going to have to add a LOT of pH down to get down to 5.9-6.0. Looks like Im going to have to choose between the hor/vit or the silicon...
I've never used the Advanced line, but Rhizotonic is great stuff for your roots, it raises the pH some but other than in veg you only use a little.
The Boost is just amazing. Don't let the cost scare you, the results speak for themselves. I like the BioBoost because it's cheaper than the "regular"
Boost and organic. It actually lowers the pH and doesn't contribute much to solids.
A product that works great for adding calcium, phosphorus, and dropping pH in a hurry is OrganaGuana. Cheap and effective. I stopped using the pH down because the coco needs more calcium anyway. Hydrolyzed fish fertilizer from Neptunes Harvest works great for growth and nutrients and also loaded with phosphoric acid.
Maybe consider the tall blue beer cups I think they are 20 oz ones. Not much more size but a little more coco. Punch holes in the bottom and sides at the bottom with ice pick.
pH to 5.8-5.9 better than 5.9 to 6.0.
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: oeric mckenna]
#775750 - 04/11/15 10:06 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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if your pH is shooting up that much you need to add a buffer to your water to prevent that. How much Ca/Mg are you using?
I've just been able to mix the nutrients and the formula has stayed the same for awhile now. When I was checking it was always within range.
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: phychotron]
#775758 - 04/11/15 11:38 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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I use neutral RO water, no Cal/Mag...the Canna Coco A&B has plenty of Cal/Mag and Ive never needed to add any. Just adding the MBFerts stuff and Pro-tekt to pure RO water raised it that high.
I know this is going to sound strange, but I tried adding the Pro-tekt first, then nutes, and the MBferts last and doing it that way the MBFerts barely raised my pH at all...like .2 but adding the MBferts first before anything raised my neutral pH by 1.5. Doesn't make much sense but at least I can use it and the Pro-tekt together without adding much pH down doing it that way.
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#775774 - 04/11/15 05:40 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Strange. I would monitor it and see how much it changes over time.
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#775830 - 04/12/15 06:51 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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I use neutral RO water, no Cal/Mag...the Canna Coco A&B has plenty of Cal/Mag and Ive never needed to add any. Just adding the MBFerts stuff and Pro-tekt to pure RO water raised it that high.
I know this is going to sound strange, but I tried adding the Pro-tekt first, then nutes, and the MBferts last and doing it that way the MBFerts barely raised my pH at all...like .2 but adding the MBferts first before anything raised my neutral pH by 1.5. Doesn't make much sense but at least I can use it and the Pro-tekt together without adding much pH down doing it that way.
I always add A&B first, then the other Canna nutes, then acid, then Pro-Tekt but only if the pH got too low. If it's pk13/14 time no need for the Pro-Tekt for example. It always seems easier to raise the pH a little at the end than let it get too high and you have to dump in mega acid to break the buffering action.
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: GoonerHeClips]
#775857 - 04/12/15 11:15 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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I add the Pro-tekt first, if I add nutes first then Pro-tekt it gets real cloudy. The bottle even says to add Pro-tekt before nutes. I dont use Pro-tekt as a pH up, I use it for its supposed ability to strengthen the plants cell walls - although I havent noticed this at all since Ive been using it like others claim. Once this bottle is gone I'll probably cut it out completely.
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#775865 - 04/12/15 02:27 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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my bottle of pro tekt says to add to nutrients that have been pH adjusted. Cloudiness is a bad sign, and you should mix the silica with a bit of water before adding it to nutrients. This way its less likely to form solids (that cloudiness).
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#775872 - 04/12/15 04:42 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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I add the Pro-tekt first, if I add nutes first then Pro-tekt it gets real cloudy. The bottle even says to add Pro-tekt before nutes. I dont use Pro-tekt as a pH up, I use it for its supposed ability to strengthen the plants cell walls - although I havent noticed this at all since Ive been using it like others claim. Once this bottle is gone I'll probably cut it out completely.
I added the Pro-tekt first at mid-range on their recommendation, and it raised the pH of my RO water up to 11.4. Of course, they recommend adding it first, and with every watering. And why not?
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: GoonerHeClips]
#775991 - 04/14/15 09:39 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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4/14:
Lookin good, especially for < 12oz of medium I think 
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#776072 - 04/15/15 08:21 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Agreed, looking good esp. for cups. What brand coco do you use, brick or loose? I noticed a big improvement in switching to canna loose from another brand.
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: GoonerHeClips]
#776147 - 04/16/15 06:48 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Botanicare loose, only kind my hydro store carries. I'd love to try Canna's but it costs too much to ship.
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#776149 - 04/16/15 07:18 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've never tried the Botanicare. Used the Royal Gold but had problems with salts. Big problems with a couple of bags. Anyway, Canna as usual has their shit together and their loose coco is quite nice. I don't rinse it, just add light A&B Rhizo and a little CalMag and hydrolyzed fish fert (Neptune Harvest) for pH drop and put clones right into it, or plant seeds. No more perlite! That stuff is useless, no less than useless. Canna doesn't recommend it and once you stop putting it in, you'll see why...
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: GoonerHeClips]
#776165 - 04/16/15 10:59 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've never tried the Botanicare. Used the Royal Gold but had problems with salts. Big problems with a couple of bags. Anyway, Canna as usual has their shit together and their loose coco is quite nice. I don't rinse it, just add light A&B Rhizo and a little CalMag and hydrolyzed fish fert (Neptune Harvest) for pH drop and put clones right into it, or plant seeds. No more perlite! That stuff is useless, no less than useless. Canna doesn't recommend it and once you stop putting it in, you'll see why...
I dont use perlite in cloth pots but I use a little in these cups, figured it would help aid the roots with oxygen. For my next batch I'll do a half and half comparison.
How much of that NH do you have to use for pH drop? is it just a few drops like pH down? I'd like to switch to something like that since pH down adds no benefit other than dropping pH...
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#776191 - 04/16/15 01:17 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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GoonerHeClips said:
I've never tried the Botanicare. Used the Royal Gold but had problems with salts. Big problems with a couple of bags. Anyway, Canna as usual has their shit together and their loose coco is quite nice. I don't rinse it, just add light A&B Rhizo and a little CalMag and hydrolyzed fish fert (Neptune Harvest) for pH drop and put clones right into it, or plant seeds. No more perlite! That stuff is useless, no less than useless. Canna doesn't recommend it and once you stop putting it in, you'll see why...
I dont use perlite in cloth pots but I use a little in these cups, figured it would help aid the roots with oxygen. For my next batch I'll do a half and half comparison.
How much of that NH do you have to use for pH drop? is it just a few drops like pH down? I'd like to switch to something like that since pH down adds no benefit other than dropping pH...
I think perlite has a plus in soil, but in coco it clearly has been a laggard FME. I've tried it at various percentages and zero is a huge improvement. Perlite is like adding rocks that do zero. The coco by itself does things with water when drier that perlite doesn't. It's complicated. The other thing is perlite is lumpy and coarse and for planting seeds sucks. Or clones. Just say no to perlite! Toxic as hell to breathe the dust, what a great product! (sry for rant...)
You add about a half to a full tablespoon per 4 gallons of the NH for the typical mix, but if you've added the PK13/14 or Pro-Tekt, maybe 2 tablespoons. Yeah I like it a whole lot more than the phos acid which can burn FME. If you are more into bloom, try the OrganaGuana product, it works great for calcium, phosphorus, and flavor, and is highly acidic. Maybe 1/2-1 tablespoon per 4 gallons. Cheap product, organic, fossilized bat shit. But doesn't smell like normal bat shit, is pleasant and oddly adds a nice flavor to the finished product. The calcium add is a bonus and never seems to hurt with the coco. I also add a little calmag every 4th feeding or so.
Edited by GoonerHeClips (04/16/15 01:22 PM)
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: GoonerHeClips]
#776209 - 04/16/15 03:48 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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The reason Canna coco doesn't need perlite or anything else is that they have aggregated their mix to include the correct ratio of the various sized parts of coir in order for the medium to hold the ideal amount of air, or 43% if I remember correctly. Canna is the only company I've seen to claim to do that.
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: phychotron]
#776220 - 04/16/15 04:48 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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I made the mistake of smashing it down for one batch of clones and it didn't work. I had to go back and loosen it up.
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: GoonerHeClips]
#777220 - 04/28/15 08:40 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Harvesting this weekend. Ive been feeding nothing but molasses for two weeks now.
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#777221 - 04/28/15 08:45 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Next round ready to go, these are from my Double Berry mom. More excited about these, I highly prefer indica dominate strains. And I decided to take your advice Goon, no perlite this time.
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#777263 - 04/28/15 06:23 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nice. I hope it tastes good for ya man
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: oeric mckenna]
#777427 - 04/30/15 02:37 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Macros of semi-cured buds from a smaller plant I harvested a week early:
The strain isnt as stable as I'd hoped, a few started to herm on me towards the end but holy shit is it potent. The trichs on the buds above are still clear but after taking just a few hits Im as stoned as Ive ever been.
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#777448 - 04/30/15 05:30 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Awesome man. looks dank
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: oeric mckenna]
#777454 - 04/30/15 06:13 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, those are beautiful shots . Post some more when fully cured!
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry [Re: ashfiken]
#777878 - 05/05/15 04:25 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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All but 3 were chopped down, trimmed, dried (over dried) and jarred. Put a leaf in each jar to bring back a little moisture for the curing to begin,
Out of 24 plants I got 188 overdried grams, or just over 6.5 oz. Not near what I was expecting, the last strain I did this way I got just under a half/plant. I had less plants though so that probably had a lot to do with it...they werent as close together so they got more light. But I still got almost 3 oz more total.
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Re: SoG Solo Cup Log - Advanced Kaya 47 and Feminized Double Berry/ Don't buy from mbferts.com [Re: phychotron]
#806523 - 02/22/16 09:46 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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