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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: cheezymold]
#761743 - 12/14/14 08:32 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I felt the same way, anything under 7 I didn't notice anything except the nausea. At 14 I finally felt the 'effects' well but was dying from the nausea.
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poor boy
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: drawde]
#761763 - 12/15/14 07:57 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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The way you guys are with kratom is how I am with bud. Well, not the sickness, but how it doesn't sit right with me.
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Lessons learned then gradually surfacing, Letting go, stripping naked to scream
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I'm a retarded, disfigured clown
Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
Sneaking into the lives of strangers, and letting them fall apart to a new rhythm just to feel better
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ChasingBliss
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy]
#761769 - 12/15/14 09:21 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I had some awesome Kratom for my first time. I only took about 4-5g of the stuff and it knocked me out. It must have been a strong batch because next time I bought the same stuff, it was shit and made me puke.
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy]
#762021 - 12/16/14 06:44 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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drawde said:
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Sham87 said: you guys should just start off with a gram and work your way up. Remember to eat right after wards so your stomach digests it with the food. Food also alleviates the nausea.
My first dose ever was 7g and a couple after that I did 14
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drawde
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: closed veil]
#762033 - 12/16/14 08:12 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I go hard
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: drawde]
#762035 - 12/16/14 08:15 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: drawde]
#762078 - 12/17/14 08:18 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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14 g seems to be my 'go to' dose. Real strong effects, long lasting, almost nod like yet I stay alert and active, and I haven't experienced any nausea. I did however, just order a gel cap packing kit because I am getting tired of washing down that much powder.
Also received an email from my vendor about them switching sources to improve quality control. I need to be careful with this kratom though, I'm really starting to like this stuff a lot. . . .
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: vinsue]
#762121 - 12/17/14 05:09 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's the perfect plant next to good ol' maryjane.
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: drawde]
#762127 - 12/17/14 05:50 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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drawde said: I felt the same way, anything under 7 I didn't notice anything except the nausea. At 14 I finally felt the 'effects' well but was dying from the nausea.
If I take any more than 5g at once I'll likely have some nausea and a light headed dizzy feeling for a little while after taking it....but 5g will also have me on the verge of nodding if it's a red vein, or way uplifted and euphoric if it's something like a thai or white vein. Anything over 5g at once and I'm probably going to puke, I can spread out my dosage over a couple hours and be fine though. For my self it's the stimulating strains, thais, whites, horned leaf & maeng da that seems to bring about the nauseated dysphoric feels more than the others.
I finally weighed out my typical dose (before I was using a tea-spoon to measure my dose) and it turns out I've been taking 2.3g twice a day, sometimes three times a day. I've been using the leaf for years now and I can still feel as little as 1g, but prefer to take a little more. It's enough to keep me zingin' through out the days and to have me uber relaxed in the evenings. I've been taking some white vein before going on bike rides lately and the amount of energy & stamina the stuff gives me is un-real.
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cheezymold
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: Sham87]
#762128 - 12/17/14 05:51 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I really did want to like it. I'm sure I'll do fine without though.
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still beLIEve
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: cheezymold]
#762236 - 12/18/14 03:33 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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poor boy said: i like percs too but their too damn expensive.
I wish I could still take percs, my tolerance is far too high to feel anything off of them.
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cheezymold said: This was actually my rationale for deciding to stop trying lol. I still feel uneasy from yesterday. Mine is a motion sickness for sure, which I'm already pretty sensitive to. I took about 5.4g with a pastry and was projectile vomiting 2 hours later. The leaf matter came out of my nose because I was holding my mouth when I puked. While I was typing this, I reminded myself of it and threw up again
I think it is telling me to stick with good ol mary jane
It sounds like you dosed too high. I don't get any nausea at all any more probably something to do with my cross tolerance with opiates. But before you right it off completely I would give it another shot and try a smaller dose. It's a pretty neat little plant I wouldn't write it off so quickly.
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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: still beLIEve]
#762239 - 12/18/14 04:29 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I agree with SB
It took me a few times before I got it right. Now I love it
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: Ben18]
#762275 - 12/18/14 08:52 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've always put mine into those caps the kratom site has for sale. Kinda sucks tho because if u takw like 5 grams it comes out to like 15-25 capsules depending on what size. I always got a nice opiate like buzz, but it does give me a funny feeling. Almost like a light headed dizzy feeling that comes and goes, and hot flashes I guess. But its never anything serious, never puked. Just burped up that awful taste. I took it once to help ease wd's from oxycodone and i don't remember it helping the wd's which I thought was strange since I thought it was a opiate. But it did give a nice buzz.I'd say its worth the money. I remember I got Bali and another kind but I don't remember which one. But each time was prettt potent. At the time I was taking 100mgs of oxycodone a day, and 7 grams of kratom still gave me that nice happy warm fuzzy feeling.lmao. like a mothers hug
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still beLIEve
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: Ben18]
#762283 - 12/18/14 10:23 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ben18 said: I agree with SB
It took me a few times before I got it right. Now I love it
yeah i've said it before and i'll say it again, there is a very fine line between feeling good and feeling nauseous
just gotta find yours
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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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cheezymold
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: still beLIEve]
#762301 - 12/19/14 05:00 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I went through a kilo over the course of the last year(not worth buying in smaller amounts IMO) and tried all kinds of doses. Hot water extract was the least nauseating, but it was a strong narcotic effect and no stimulant at all. Like taking percs. I really don't care for that though. I still have a bottle of diazapam sitting around too lol. I think I just like smoking instead. I tend to be super sensitive to medications to begin with.
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poor boy
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: cheezymold]
#762314 - 12/19/14 07:50 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hot water extraction?
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Learning to love life by living through loss and mistakes
Lessons learned then gradually surfacing, Letting go, stripping naked to scream
I am not perfect nor do I strive to be, I am alive in this world of face first falls and public breakdowns
I'm a retarded, disfigured clown
Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
Sneaking into the lives of strangers, and letting them fall apart to a new rhythm just to feel better
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still beLIEve
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy] 1
#762331 - 12/19/14 08:59 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah a hot water extraction sounds like tea?
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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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poor boy
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: still beLIEve]
#762336 - 12/19/14 09:18 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's what I was thinking...
Tea calls for too much...
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Learning to love life by living through loss and mistakes
Lessons learned then gradually surfacing, Letting go, stripping naked to scream
I am not perfect nor do I strive to be, I am alive in this world of face first falls and public breakdowns
I'm a retarded, disfigured clown
Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
Sneaking into the lives of strangers, and letting them fall apart to a new rhythm just to feel better
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy]
#762339 - 12/19/14 09:22 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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ive been ONLY done tea for last 4 months.
love how it hits so hard and fast
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cheezymold
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: P-O]
#762367 - 12/19/14 12:13 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, its just tea. I let the excess water boil off then dehydrate it, throw in the coffee grinder, cap it. Super strong but I'm sure it destroys a lot of the alkaloids that have a stimulant effect because it feels strait up like percs. I still throw up from this, but the nausea doesn't last nearly as long and lasts me 5-6 hours.
Most certainly I do not deny it's potency. It just doesn't agree with me. Not really a fan of chocking down 15-20 capsules each time either.
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