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 Re: Vision Seeds : Issues ChocoLoco  [Re: Sp33dfreak]
#758054 - 11/19/14 10:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Either way, Magash seems like a seed god, so I'm not surprised his turned out great.
Thank you the comment is appreciated. I wish it was true I really really really do. There is no magic to what I'm doing its work that all the other breeders know how to do but most don't cause they would rather give F1s and let you figure out which pheno you want. I just feel that people probably want seeds that do what the package says they will do and to put it simply that is to do the work and stabilize them.
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Re: Vision Seeds : Issues ChocoLoco [Re: cannabis_seeds] 1
#758075 - 11/19/14 12:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Way better than your other nickname, huh?
and she's still using that damn name. To the point that I turn my head and look when she calls me by it now. 
 Damn Women
I do thank you again for the comment
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Re: Vision Seeds : Issues ChocoLoco [Re: cannabis_seeds]
#759614 - 11/28/14 04:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Boneheads at vision. When seeds pop but don't do anything it's cause they were rushed. They saw dark shells on the seeds and harvested them. They need to fully ripen which means they don't only need to look pretty but need to build up there stores for what could possibly be years of waiting till the conditions are right for germinating.
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budgrowerwannabe said:
At least we all know y there fucked! But what and when are they going to do about it? Im just saying what if I paid all kinds of money for those and get jacked around. It just makes there company look bad is all and then everyone orders from some were else. Just saying.
Thanks for the post Mag.
There is only one reason that companies suck on their customer service and that is they know they had a bad product to begin with. I do know one thing, if I see a post that is even questionable about my seeds that person doesn't have to get a hold of me I'll usually send a pm as soon as I see it. To each their own I guess. Everybody may be waiting on vision to make new seeds.
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Magash
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Next time get these from a real breeder instead of some piece of shit cheap copy. (and now we know why they are cheap)
http://dnagenetics.com/seeds/chocolope
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Yeah that's the strain I was suggesting.
or this one
http://dnagenetics.com/seeds/chocolope-kush
Gorilla has them both
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Well they did something wrong. Dont think DNA would put things out like this?
I could understand having a batch of fems go hermie but not having seeds sprout.
No I all breeders should have the brains pull a few seeds from each batch and to moisten some towels and let the tap root grow a little. Tap root grows plant grows. Every breeder should do this with every batch it only takes a few days. 
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Re: Vision Seeds : Issues ChocoLoco [Re: 13buds] 1
#761584 - 12/13/14 08:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Stolen strains, stolen seed packaging ideas fucked up seeds. You guys at vision are all about the quality aren't ya?
Fucking Scumbags!!!
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The strain Jack Herer was done by Sensi Seeds with his permision to use his name.
Jack Herer with Ben Dronkers owner of Sensi Seeds
Sensi also has a copyright on the name of the strain so it's outright theft. These fucking scumbags even talk about how the strain has won 11 cannabis cups but neglect to mention that it was the Sensi Seeds version that won all the awards.
Lowrider
Northern Lights
Super Skunk
Cheese
Silver Haze
White Widow
Big Bud
Amnesia Haze
Every one stolen. Let alone you have the nerve to say you make your AK-49 better then the original AK-47. Something tells me there is no breeder there that has half the talent of Simon at serious seeds. Lots of companies do versions of others strains but the ones that don't give credit to the original breeders are rip offs.
Example the right way to do it. In there strain Strawberry Banana Reserva Privada lets you know they are using Serious Seeds bubblegum in it. They just use it in one of their strains and let you know. These guys are outright using the names in fact there is no breeding going on here just making feminized versions of others work.
Maybe I'm wrong someone show me where.
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I want to see what they have to say about your accusations Mag?
They can say what they want but one of two things is going on. They are either just making feminized versions of others work or naming the strains the same as others strains in order to mislead people into buying them.
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Re: Vision Seeds : Issues ChocoLoco [Re: cannabis_seeds]
#761811 - 12/15/14 05:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Vision is open about buying their seeds from other Dutch companies & rebranding (they don't do their own breeding) - they just don't say who because I would assume that if they're known brands, they wouldn't want people to see that they can get them for cheaper under another label.
A lot of companies do this - just like a lot of generic & store-brand products are made by their name-brand counterparts & only labeled differently.
Yeah I know all about this. The majority of those companies are using Nirvana's seeds. Look at the companies doing it (and I won't name them either but I fucking know) almost every one of them has no respect. There the clown shows of the seed industry and fuck it up for all others and it's people just sitting back saying nothing that's gonna keep the seed business a shady joke and at the same time keep watering down the genetics in the market which already is making it harder and harder to find the real thing when looking for a particular strain.
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For all we know, Vision's Jack Herer could be from Sensi. However, in all fairness, everyone in the seed trade seems to copy from everyone else - whether they grow out their actual stock & create seeds from it, try to duplicate the same mix or create a completely new strain & use the same name. Everyone seems to have a White Widow, a Blueberry, an OG Kush, a Jack Herer, etc
Like I said if it is Sensi Seeds strain they their thieves and if everybody else is doing it so are they simple as that. Now you can't count strains like OG Kush, The real NYC Diesel, Blue Dot, Snow Cap and a lot of the medical strains cause nobody knows the real stories of where those strains came from.
As far as everybody having versions of certain strains tell that to the breeders at DNA Reserva, Sensi Seeds, THSeeds, Serious Seeds, D.J. Short Seeds, Mr Nice Seeds (hell this guy came up with most the strain on the list and doesn't use the names cause another seed company is using them. He renamed the real versions). You know the companies that have real breeders aren't knocking off shit. Sensi Seeds came up with White Lable seeds cause they were so sick of being knocked off they came up with a company to get back by knocking off others. Their way of getting back and good for them.
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Jack Herer is a little different because it involves someone's name & reputation, but if it sells, people are going to copy it. Again, not saying it's right or wrong, it's just what happens with everything. I even find people copying my online material. Drives me a little crazy, but I generally get over it.
Yeah well I'm not doing business with these companies so I don't have to hide my opinion. When somebody makes a strain and somebody else knocks it off or steals the name cause it sells it's fucking wrong.
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Speaking for the Jack Herer description specifically, if you're reading material from our website, I either rewrite these from the breeder descriptions or have it rewritten by another writer. We do this so that it's unique for the search engines & a little more fun to read than what most breeders put up. We always go by the breeder descriptions, but if it's a little bare, we'll add additional content that's generic to a well-known strain - like Cup wins - or take information from logs/reviews.
Fine, when your telling the truth but what has me just a little pissed and surprised is this.
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So the part about AK-49 being better than AK-47 or Jack Herer winning 11 Cups, that's probably my bad - so blame me for that part. It's kind of hard to stretch 1 or 2 sentences & a small list of stats into a whole page at times.
So explain to me how you know that AK-49 is better then AK-47 when the company that makes it as you have already said has no breeders? This sounds like more then stretching 2 sentences. I'm so pissed I can't see straight and better go before I type something I regret.
It's kind of my job to have the backs of the members of this site and nobody can say I don't take it seriously. We may not be big but when it comes to information about growing and stuff related to it I Would like us to be one of the best and not a ICMag clown show.
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Re: Vision Seeds : Issues ChocoLoco [Re: cannabis_seeds]
#761866 - 12/15/14 07:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Don't trip I'm cool calm and collected.
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And it was sort of a joke because they went from AK-47 to AK-49 - two more must be better, right?
Ok I get the joke but it's misleading but I do have to admit I kind of like the Gorilla jokes in the descriptions sometimes. 
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I'll add one more comment for Vision Seeds.
The breeders don't give me anything extra to say nice things about them
Of course they don't. In order for that to be true they would have to be breeders. 
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They've replaced the seeds plus handed out some of their other strains
I'm gonna leave the "their other strains part alone
You already know how serious I take the growing thing way more then I should. This strain name thing is one of my biggest piss offs. This name thing is the reason the clubs are full of mislabeled buds for sale. Clones that aren't what they claim to be. New growers all excited to grow what they think is their favorite strain only to be let down at harvest.
You'll be happy to know that my fiancee gave me one of my presents early so I could have it while some of the football season is here. A football jersey of my favorite team with that name you two love so much on the back.
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Re: Vision Seeds : Issues ChocoLoco [Re: cannabis_seeds]
#761878 - 12/15/14 07:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I won't tell ya the team colors cause you're gonna figure it out easily.
There close to the 49ers and they suck so bad it's beyond comprehension. So hard to be a fan of theirs sooooooo hard. Least my 9ers friends can't say shit cause some fucking how we managed to beat them. Weeeee Suuuuuuck. Told ya it'd be easy.
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And, first time we don't, I'm flying out, teaming up with his fiance, and we'll beat some sense into him. Or make fun of him until he changes his mind. I'm sure it'll be one or the other.
Ya better shut the hell up or she's gonna be sending ya a damn plane ticket. 
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Re: Vision Seeds : Issues ChocoLoco [Re: cannabis_seeds]
#761885 - 12/15/14 07:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I lived on the 9ers side of the bay for a long time. Everybody loved em so of course I had to hate em. I don't hate em now I'm a bay area football fan but it's funny how the 9ers have a qb that sucks and the only thing good about the raiders is the qb.
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I think I'd really, really like your fiance.
Yeah I'm ssure she'd like you too but women have a way of teaming up against me so as soon as the holidays are over I'm sending her to the house in Darwin and keeping you guys on opposite sides of the planet. 
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