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mhbound said:
What kind of growing medium are you using? That second plant looks a little stressed but that is likely from the repot.

Look into fimming/topping to keep it from getting too tall and just keep it trimmed. It will cause it to bush out more but as long as you keep it trimmed it should be no problem for you. The only thing is your amount of light, window light is all but a waste in my opinion I would at least buy as many of those lights as you can without it causing too much heat. That is my best advice for your situation.

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mhbound said:
Really though you can get 150watt HPS for under 100$. I bought one for like 60+shipping

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Midgetpawn said:
If that's sand on top of soil, be aware that a layer of sand on top will stop oxygen from getting to the roots.

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captain.koons said:
What on earth is that white stuff all over your plant?

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oeric mckenna said:
Hey man.
About this defoliation thing you mentioned. I gotta say that I really believe that you want as many leaves as you can get with the exception of pruning scraggly bottom branches on tall plants.
  The best plants with the biggest buds got those buds from energy absorbed by the leaves...
Pulling leaves can really bum on a plant and yours look kind of sparse as is. Just my 2 cents since you asked...  &Best of luck brutha

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Magash said:
Pulling all the fan leaves was a mistake. If you want more power you don't go out and yank solar panels off of the roof.

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captain.koons said:
You can defoliate in flower and it improves yield especially(only) when your canopy is over crowded. Anything green is going to be photosynthetic but you need a large mass of buds before you even think of doing that.

You should also know your genetics as it would be a very good way to stress your plants and possibly throw nanners.

Absolutely no reason to do it in veg or with CFLs or whatever you're using.  The reason why it works well under HID is there's an abundance of foliage for the amount of light being shined down on the canopy. so photosynthesis is driven well when your canopy is thinned as it's got the maximum (or close) amount of light exposure it would be getting with all those extra leaves sitting in the shade.

Never do this in veg.

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This post is a synopsis of this thread that explains why i did it. The dude in the icmag thread posted photos of this tek in action & reasoned why removing fan leaves makes the plant focus on bud sites instead of fan leaves.
After seeing those photos of his buds i was a believer.

Do u guys know what this is? Both plants are showing this dark green banding on the fan leaves.
It happened when i recently switched nutes from 5.1.1 to 10.15.10+fish emulsion+superthrive:
i'm not sure if the banding is normal or not

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You should also know your genetics as it would be a very good way to stress your plants and possibly throw nanners.


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Man, they're highly valuable on one hand too though if you should encounter them.

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For what? If your talking feminized seeds you don't use those nanners.

That's how Soma makes his fems and they always go hermie and throw enough nanners to draw a pack of monkeys.

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Only plants that are stressed very badly give herm problems in the future generations.

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  its a biological response for survival that occurs in nature though

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Absolutely true. The thing is that it also purposely throws a ton of hermies in order to prevent the plant from having the same problem from whatever environmental factor caused it.

and last how is the plant going to continue the next generation if all the seeds are female? There would have to be hermies in order to make up for there not being any males that caused the for the hermies flowers in the first place. So if what you say is true and fems made from old flowers reliable then the  plant would be making itself extinct on the next generation.