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 Updated Pictures?? What's going on? 
#739655 - 07/11/14 09:54 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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What's going on? I was told that I was using too much water the top looks great the bottom is yellowing?? Please help? I just purchased advanced nutrients revive I have heard great things about it.....
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This was someone else response:
You should not water it again until it is dry and you can lift it up without feeling ANY water weight at all. This typically takes 2-3 days if your roots are able to suck up the water. I met my Joyce in the paint isle of the Home Depot, so I won't say anything about them... but if you are going to believe everything that a sales person tells you in order to get you to buy a product, you sort of deserve to deal with the results. I hope your ferts do well for you, but as far as pot growers go, you are probably in uncharted territory with that stuff and are on your own. Also, you should probably never spray your leaves again, just look how good that has been working out for you so far.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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unknown3251452177
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You need grow nutrients.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=plant+yellowing+from+bottom+up
Thanks for sarcasm!! I thought this is a place for help!! I was nothing but respectful, DONT YOU THINK I GOOGLED IT DUHHHH!!
That's why I'm here so my fellow buddy's can help me and by the way my name is joe lol sorry for username with a numbers lol ...
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unknown3251452177
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I just purchased advanced nutrients revive I was told it was great should be getting it tomorrow 
How should I start off with it slow not too much whatever label says but half lower??
http://www.progressive-growth.com/proddetail.php?prod=revive1
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If you googled it and found the answer why are you still posting? You do need a grow nutrient. Hawk wasn't trolling and to disrespect someone who's offering help isn't cool man 
But yeah that revive nutrient should help you just need a nute with a bit more nitrogen if that plant is going to thrive.
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Re: Updated Pictures?? What's going on? [Re: webster10]
#739682 - 07/12/14 02:04 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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I just used advanced nutrients revive I put alittle in cup mixed with water sprayed soil and leaves and put touch on soil by the roots how long does it take to see improvements because this morning it looked worse but thankfully I got the nutes...
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Upon further looking, and not being as drunk as I was last night, your plant is flowering?
If you could fill out the questionnaire at the top of this forum it will better help up, help you.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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unknown3251452177
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Yes it's an auto flowering I put that advanced nutrients mix with water and some not mix just a tiny bit by stem where roots are so hopefully this will work the advanced nutrients revive revive... I went to buy ph tester and like it tells you soil wet moist etc my ph is in the 7ish range perfect and dirt is wet / moist level so it must be deficiency....
Should I pull the dead ones off or just let nature take its course and not wet until Monday or when indicator says it's dry correct?
I know it ain't a lighting problem at all when I noticed it happening I thought cause if had it in small pot I got medium pot but made sure to make square and not stress the roots it came out perfect now its Stan ding straight them but just leaves problem
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Let the plant use the nutrients up from the unhealthy leaves before plucking. Eventually the leaves should fall off with a very light tug.
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Re: Updated Pictures?? What's going on? [Re: webster10]
#739714 - 07/12/14 06:27 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Updated Pictures?? What's going on? *DELETED* [Re: unknown3251452177]
#739717 - 07/12/14 06:41 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Post deleted by webster10Reason for deletion: Supposedly not a nutrient burn
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unknown3251452177
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Re: Updated Pictures?? What's going on? [Re: webster10]
#739719 - 07/12/14 06:59 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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I didn't put nutrients until today I never put any type fert or nutrient in my soil just watering it and started to notice the tips of leaf was brownish and the lower you go it was pale white......
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You did NOT nutrient burn the plant when you fed it today. New growth should look good and the old growth will either die away or possibly will recover
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Re: Updated Pictures?? What's going on? [Re: webster10]
#739738 - 07/12/14 10:27 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Also just a reminder. You said it was an autoflower, remember that stress will significantly affect your yield with an auto. Just a heads up brother.
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Re: Updated Pictures?? What's going on? [Re: webster10]
#739750 - 07/12/14 11:41 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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You nutrient burned the plant when you fed it today, you applied a little too much. New growth should look good and the old growth will either die away or possibly will recover. Just don't feed again for a few waterings and next time use a little less nutes
His symptoms were happening before today dude. It's obviously not nutrient burn 
OP, Please fill out the questionnaire as requested.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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webster10
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Didn't notice the burnt tips in the first few pictures, thought it was just yellowing. It looks like nute burn but it doesn't add up. Maybe the previous owner gave it to him already slightly burnt? I don't know but sorry for the confusion, I was pretty sure with my diagnosis.
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OP, Please fill out the questionnaire as requested.
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Re: Updated Pictures?? What's going on? [Re: TribalSeed]
#740038 - 07/14/14 06:15 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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How do you get rid of those little bugs I don't seem them harming the plants but what is good pesticide anyways to prevent it from becoming damaged by any bugs!!! I see tiny bugs and ants but I don't see them harming anything and its indoors i got a friend who is growing also and he got the same thing??
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unknown3251452177
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Updated Pictures all the leaves that turned white fell off
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I've used neem oil with good success. I also have azamax handy for heavy duty exterminations.
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Re: Updated Pictures?? What's going on? [Re: webster10]
#740072 - 07/14/14 07:00 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Can I spray neem oil directly on the dirt without any water I just watered it about two hours ago and I do have neem oil also what do you think about my plant does it look bad
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I see no bug damage but the neem oil can be used as a preventative.
Mix 1% Neem oil and 99% water into a spray bottle. Then drop a few drops of Dawn Dish Soap into the mix. Spray the top and bottom of the leaves thoroughly and try not to get any of the buds although it will be perfectly fine if you do get some on the buds.
I saw you say that the old leaves that were yellowing turned pale and fell off. I see that the bottom growth is yellow. Are bottom leaves still turning yellow or were those yellow from before?
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Re: Updated Pictures?? What's going on? [Re: webster10]
#740174 - 07/15/14 02:32 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yea the tips still turning yellow take look at pictures I posted last night what can this be should I use more revive nutrients or wait for the dyna grow I should be getting it in mail soon
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unknown3251452177
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When I get home ill take more pics
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Updated pictures took today about 1/2 hr ago!!
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Re: Updated Pictures?? What's going on? [Re: TribalSeed]
#740199 - 07/15/14 05:38 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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unknown3251452177
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What you talking about what questionnaire ??
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Soil Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
2. How old are your plants?
3. How tall are your plants?
4. What size containers are they planted in?
5. What is your soil mix?
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use and how much you give per watering?
7. What is the pH of your water?
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio?
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
11. How close are your lights to the plants?
12. What size is your grow space in square feet?
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
14. What is the pH of the soil?
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
16. How much experience do you have growing?
Hydro Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
2. How old are your plants?
3. How tall are your plants?
4. What type of hydro system are you using?
5. What brand/type of nutrients are you using?
6. What is the Ph of your nutrient solution?
7. What is the PPM/EC of your tap water?
8. What is the PPM/EC of your nutrient solution?
9. What is the temperature of your nutrient solution?
10. Does your PPM/EC show a rise or fall when you do your daily PPM check?
11. Does your pH show a rise or fall when you do your daily check?
12. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
13. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
14. How close are your lights to the plants?
15. What size is your grow space in square feet?
16. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
17. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
18. How much experience do you have growing?
Thanks! This will help us diagnose your problem better.
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Re: Updated Pictures?? What's going on? [Re: Stoneth]
#740223 - 07/15/14 06:13 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Soil Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones? Seed
2. How old are your plants? Approx 1 month 1/2
3. How tall are your plants? 8-12 inches
4. What size containers are they planted in? 5 gal
5. What is your soil mix? Organic Soil
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use and how much you give per watering? Everyday... Bottled Water a decent amount 1/4 of like bottled water
7. What is the pH of your water? 7.5ish
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio? I don't have the nutrient deficiency tester Im using Advanced Nutrients Revive but ordered Dyna Grow
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything? Neem Oil mixed with water and some on the soil
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights") LED / HALOGEN / FLUORESCENT I change them up with it I got LED at the top hanging down and two light fixtures I got approx 3,000 LUMENS total maybe more
11. How close are your lights to the plants? 4-5 inches approx good amount
12. What size is your grow space in square feet?
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space? Not Sure its prob 83-85 in there humidity maybe 60-70 what should it be should I use dehumidifer
14. What is the pH of the soil? 7.5 is
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space? Only in the soil little tiny bugs and aunts nothing serious but no INSECTS on the plant itself or the buds
16. How much experience do you have growing? Im new to this
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Water and soil pH should both be at like 6.0-6.8, preferably 6.5.
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Re: Updated Pictures?? What's going on? [Re: webster10]
#740301 - 07/16/14 09:23 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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What kind of water should I use I use bottled water it's more pure than the nyc drinking tap water
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My water ph is low I used the pool tester that you use on pools to test ph
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You would probably be better off just using tap water then adjusting the PH. The tap water has minerals in it that can actually be helpful to the plants.
Search tap water in the search function here and you will see a thread about RO water vs Tap water. Check your PPM and if it is under 300-400 PPM I doubt you have much to worry about. Hell my tap water is only 155ppm.
Also man, the bugs in your soil is more than likely a bit of an issue as well. As long as your soil has good drainage, put a layer of sand over the topsoil. If these bugs are gnats (which I think they could be) then it will stop the mating cycle since the adults cant get back down to the soil to lay eggs. Also I believe it keeps the young'uns in the soil and keeps them from maturing as well.
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Re: Updated Pictures?? What's going on? [Re: TribalSeed] 1
#740325 - 07/16/14 12:14 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Also, watering every day is one of the worst things you can do for a plant. You want to thoroughly water the plant, then wait until it gets dryish, before you water again.
You should also buy this book, it is great for beginners.
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/listing/2670245041717?r=1&cm_mmc=GooglePLA-_-Book_25To44-_-Q000000633-_-2670245041717
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Quote:
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Also, watering every day is one of the worst things you can do for a plant. You want to thoroughly water the plant, then wait until it gets dryish, before you water again.
You should also buy this book, it is great for beginners.
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/listing/2670245041717?r=1&cm_mmc=GooglePLA-_-Book_25To44-_-Q000000633-_-2670245041717
I second buying the book. That was my first growing book and I read it from cover to cover. About 3 years later when I was in a situation to grow, I found that I was prepared for a lot of the beginner problems.
You will still have questions, but they will be a lot easier to figure out and search for once you know more about what you are talking about.
Ed Rosenthal has a great book as well, but honestly Cervantes was way more beginner friendly.
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Re: Updated Pictures?? What's going on? [Re: TribalSeed]
#740351 - 07/16/14 02:02 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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k So i won't water it for 3 days even if i see top layer dry or should I use mist spray to mist the soil..... Im going to use Tap water lol Hey!!! They say NYC has best drinking water so lets see!!!! I purchased kits to test for N P K and to check for deficiency ... I just got some top line organic soil and just planted another one see what happens!! When I get dyno grow should I apply it right away to my plant directly or mix in with water and as for the seedlings nothing came out the dirt yet just put it in yesterday it usually takes 3-5 days how old does plant need to be to put nutrients on them and make them better and grow better and faster!!
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I got that book through a torrent..... Where can I upload it so I can help other beginners and other people Im sure its a great book its not done downloading yet its 500mb pdf file
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unknown3251452177
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Humidity is at 60%
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Misting top layer of soil with water is pretty useless and I wouldn't do it. ALWAYS dilute nutrients with water. Applying nutrients directly is a bad idea. It is very normal for seedlings to take 3-5 days to pop out of the soil. Wait for the plant to develop a little bit(a week and a half-2 weeks) to apply nutrients. Generally growers dont apply any nutrients until the seedlings start to become pale. Use the nutrients at 1/4th the recommended strength that your bottle tells you to do for the first couple applications. Then slowly work it up over time. Good luck, man. If you need any more info feel more than free to ask. And growers with more experience, correct me if I'm wrong about anything, thanks.
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Re: Updated Pictures?? What's going on? [Re: webster10]
#740460 - 07/16/14 11:20 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Misting top layer of soil with water is pretty useless and I wouldn't do it. ALWAYS dilute nutrients with water. Applying nutrients directly is a bad idea. It is very normal for seedlings to take 3-5 days to pop out of the soil. Wait for the plant to develop a little bit(a week and a half-2 weeks) to apply nutrients. Generally growers dont apply any nutrients until the seedlings start to become pale. Use the nutrients at 1/4th the recommended strength that your bottle tells you to do for the first couple applications. Then slowly work it up over time. Good luck, man. If you need any more info feel more than free to ask. And growers with more experience, correct me if I'm wrong about anything, thanks.
Honestly I don't use nutes in Fox Farm Ocean forest until about 4 weeks into veg.
Definitely don't keep the topsoil moist. That invites all kinds of problems with mold and insects. Plus I don't know for sure, but it sounds like a cause for root rot and stem rot as well.
Best advice I was ever given when I started growing was "don't over do it". Leave it alone for a few days and let it bounce back on its own. Make the conditions right (RH, Temps, Ventilation) and leave it be.
Then when you check back in on her you can tell more about whats really going on.
-Check PH going in and the runoff PH as well to give you an idea of where your soil is at. 99%of issues that I have had, usually have been PH related.
-Pay attention to the leaves. After you come back to her check out the top leaves. Search for a chart on here with the keywords nutrient defiency chart (if I find it I will post it for you) and try to see where your leaves are.
-Once you think you know, post it and ask us. You narrowed things down enough to where somebody not in your garden can help you determine whats wrong.
-Like Webster said, Never put your nutes directly in the soil, always mix it in water first. And to add to that, mix them in the water one at a time. If you mix the nutes first then put them in your water, you could cause the nutes to react with each other and possibly kill off certain minerals and shit. Generally if you have a micro nutrient you put that in first, then add your other nutes.
This plant might not be what you expected, but I promise if you use the advice given to you, the next will be much better.
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Re: Updated Pictures?? What's going on? [Re: TribalSeed]
#740466 - 07/17/14 12:10 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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There ya go man.
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Re: Updated Pictures?? What's going on? [Re: TribalSeed]
#740467 - 07/17/14 12:10 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shit, too small. That's the chart you are looking for though.
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Re: Updated Pictures?? What's going on? [Re: TribalSeed] 1
#740491 - 07/17/14 07:58 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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I couldn't have said it better myself, Tribal. And yes waiting a while with ocean forest is definitely a good idea but I don't think OP is using ocean forest. I think he's using a cheap store bought organic soil. And don't get me wrong, you can grow a good plant in cheap soil but it will just be harder to do and will produce a plant that is subpar compared to a plant grown in quality soils.
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Re: Updated Pictures?? What's going on? [Re: webster10] 1
#740620 - 07/18/14 03:11 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Growing medical grade marijuana isn't as easy as it looks is it? LOL. With some guidance and A TON of research you will have successful harvests. Good luck with future grows.
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Re: Updated Pictures?? What's going on? [Re: ShroomingChaos]
#740788 - 07/20/14 02:33 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok so far it aint looking so bad the ph is 5.5-6.0 Im raising the room tempurture to about 82-84 degrees I do have little fan blowing on it very lite.... I just started by second experiment and hopefully this one will be a lot better... I purchased better stick you use to tell ph and also temp of room it says if its wet dry etc and ph some leaves that were changing color still are but not as fast I stopped watering also it still says its normal and wet I won't water for next 2-3 days
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