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 BlueBerry_Swisher
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 Re: Santa Barbara "Mass Murderer" Elliot Rodger's YT Video  [Re: niteowl]
#733867 - 05/31/14 12:36 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Eventually, yes.
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Re: Santa Barbara "Mass Murderer" Elliot Rodger's YT Video [Re: BlueBerry_Swisher]
#733874 - 05/31/14 01:02 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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So why do you blame the authorities instead of his parents?
His parents created his over-inflated sense of self, not the authorities 
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Re: Santa Barbara "Mass Murderer" Elliot Rodger's YT Video [Re: niteowl]
#733875 - 05/31/14 01:05 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just think they could have stopped him, found a reason to have him involuntarily commited.
But when it all comes down to it, none of us really know what it was like to be him, or what his childhood was like, or anything. The fact is he did it, he killed himself in the process, and its over. And God forbid someone does something like this again (which they probably will, such is the way of man)
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Re: Santa Barbara "Mass Murderer" Elliot Rodger's YT Video [Re: niteowl]
#733882 - 05/31/14 02:01 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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niteowl said:
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He clearly was mentally ill as well.
Im sorry, but an over inflated ego is not a mental disorder. There is no pill or therapy that will help this young man. Several Ayahuasca trips could do it if he wanted to change. He is so in love with himself that he will never want to change, everyone else must change to suit his perfection.
This is a direct result of shitty parenting, and nothing more.
The best bet for someone like him is a bullet to the temple 
ummm yeah powerful psychedelics are the PERFECT answer for someone with an obvious mental illness
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Re: Santa Barbara "Mass Murderer" Elliot Rodger's YT Video [Re: volcomstoner]
#733898 - 05/31/14 02:26 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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ummm yeah powerful psychedelics are the PERFECT answer for someone with an obvious mental illness
Worked for me 
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niteowl
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Re: Santa Barbara "Mass Murderer" Elliot Rodger's YT Video [Re: volcomstoner]
#733922 - 05/31/14 03:42 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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volcomstoner said:
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niteowl said:
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BlueBerry_Swisher said:
He clearly was mentally ill as well.
Im sorry, but an over inflated ego is not a mental disorder. There is no pill or therapy that will help this young man. Several Ayahuasca trips could do it if he wanted to change. He is so in love with himself that he will never want to change, everyone else must change to suit his perfection.
This is a direct result of shitty parenting, and nothing more.
The best bet for someone like him is a bullet to the temple
ummm yeah powerful psychedelics are the PERFECT answer for someone with an obvious mental illness
Im sorry, but an over inflated ego is not a mental disorder.
Psychedelics are the only cure for an overinflated ego
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Edited by niteowl (05/31/14 03:42 PM)
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Re: Santa Barbara "Mass Murderer" Elliot Rodger's YT Video [Re: niteowl]
#733924 - 05/31/14 03:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Santa Barbara "Mass Murderer" Elliot Rodger's YT Video [Re: niteowl]
#734076 - 06/01/14 02:36 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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niteowl said:
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volcomstoner said:
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niteowl said:
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He clearly was mentally ill as well.
Im sorry, but an over inflated ego is not a mental disorder. There is no pill or therapy that will help this young man. Several Ayahuasca trips could do it if he wanted to change. He is so in love with himself that he will never want to change, everyone else must change to suit his perfection.
This is a direct result of shitty parenting, and nothing more.
The best bet for someone like him is a bullet to the temple
ummm yeah powerful psychedelics are the PERFECT answer for someone with an obvious mental illness
Im sorry, but an over inflated ego is not a mental disorder.
Psychedelics are the only cure for an overinflated ego
to say there is a "cure" to an ego is absolutely rediculous. That's like saying there's a cure to stupidity.
There's obviously a little more going on with this kid than an ego, he's got some serious psychological issues, he fucking killed 6 people.
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Re: Santa Barbara "Mass Murderer" Elliot Rodger's YT Video [Re: volcomstoner]
#734078 - 06/01/14 05:05 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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to say there is a "cure" to an ego is absolutely rediculous. That's like saying there's a cure to stupidity.
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Re: Santa Barbara "Mass Murderer" Elliot Rodger's YT Video [Re: niteowl]
#734120 - 06/01/14 03:03 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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the ego causes all problems. i mean, the kid didn't have skitz, and i'd be willing to bet, if you did a quick scan of his brain activity, you'd find he isn't a psychopath either...
and most people with chemical imbalance do just fine in this world, without going out and killing people. they just live work-a-day lives like everyone else.
all i'm saying is, this kid clearly had a massive ego trip, which led him into some narcissistic and borderline personality disorders.
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Re: Santa Barbara "Mass Murderer" Elliot Rodger's YT Video [Re: BlueBerry_Swisher]
#734156 - 06/01/14 09:29 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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volcomstoner said:
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niteowl said:
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BlueBerry_Swisher said:
He clearly was mentally ill as well.
Im sorry, but an over inflated ego is not a mental disorder. There is no pill or therapy that will help this young man. Several Ayahuasca trips could do it if he wanted to change. He is so in love with himself that he will never want to change, everyone else must change to suit his perfection.
This is a direct result of shitty parenting, and nothing more.
The best bet for someone like him is a bullet to the temple
ummm yeah powerful psychedelics are the PERFECT answer for someone with an obvious mental illness
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Honestly I think both of you are right. It seems both are to blame. The authorities for not taking the matter more seriously and the parents for allowing this kid to be left to his own self inflated ego.
Realistically though, the authorites have so much more going on that a depressed young man who listens to metal isn't really a huge priority. Not when you think of the child abuse/neglect and molestation issues going on as well with younger children. Maybe its an honest mistake on their part that he was overlooked.
Also the parents did seem like they made a diligent effort to fix the problems, but really it seems like they started working on a problem that was already too far gone for what they were trying.
Maybe Society is to blame for this shit. Generation Me and so forth. Everyone is so out for themselves and built up as a child to believe that they cant fail, I.E. Participation trophies.lol. When failure does occur it seems like some people just cant face it and go on. Guess the same goes for rejection.
But really I agree with ya both. It is just ridiculous that anyone thinks killing innocent people is an answer for their problems. Hell I can understand a chick cutting a cheating husband's dick off or a man ripping his wifes tits off with a machete and slicing her lover up. Its a personal thing. But to just randomly run out and kill someone just cause they showed up first doesn't really make sense to me.
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Re: Santa Barbara "Mass Murderer" Elliot Rodger's YT Video [Re: eNtranceAsexit]
#734208 - 06/02/14 05:28 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I honestly think it was his parents fault. The reason for that thought process, that he is entitled to a girl. I
know they said he has asbergers, but that doesn't mean that he couldn't put in some work to get a girl. He
just had a shitty attitude because of how he was raised. It's a shame it had to end this way though. Also no
one knows whether he was killed by the cops, or if he offed himself.
There was probably a lot of things that went into this kid doing what he did, no one just goes on a killing
rampage because they are a 22 year old virgin. Maybe it was a little bit of society acting like it's not okay
to be a virgin at that age. Maybe it was a little bit of bad parenting, a little bit of asbergers, the rejection,
it probably all built up.
I bet if he had good parents though, they would have noticed some signs that would have stopped all of this
from happening.
TL;DR:
He should have just went to a party, and sparked up a joint. He would have gotten some friends, and
probably talked to some chicks. Instead he sat at home making youtube videos about how no one loves
him, while his parents ignored it.
unless my facts are wrong, i haven't really looked into it much.
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Re: Santa Barbara "Mass Murderer" Elliot Rodger's YT Video [Re: iStoner]
#734221 - 06/02/14 08:14 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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iStoner said:
I honestly think it was his parents fault. The reason for that thought process, that he is entitled to a girl. I
know they said he has asbergers, but that doesn't mean that he couldn't put in some work to get a girl. He
just had a shitty attitude because of how he was raised. It's a shame it had to end this way though. Also no
one knows whether he was killed by the cops, or if he offed himself.
There was probably a lot of things that went into this kid doing what he did, no one just goes on a killing
rampage because they are a 22 year old virgin. Maybe it was a little bit of society acting like it's not okay
to be a virgin at that age. Maybe it was a little bit of bad parenting, a little bit of asbergers, the rejection,
it probably all built up.
I bet if he had good parents though, they would have noticed some signs that would have stopped all of this
from happening.
TL;DR:
He should have just went to a party, and sparked up a joint. He would have gotten some friends, and
probably talked to some chicks. Instead he sat at home making youtube videos about how no one loves
him, while his parents ignored it.
unless my facts are wrong, i haven't really looked into it much.
That's what I got from it too man. We probably looked into it about the same amount. I don't know all the details either.
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Re: Santa Barbara "Mass Murderer" Elliot Rodger's YT Video [Re: TribalSeed]
#734224 - 06/02/14 08:17 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Also, blame fame. And fortune. Being that rich almost always comes with consequences. He also lived in an area where sex is a main focus, so he didnt quite understand why he wasnt getting the goods as well.
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