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 SmokeSomeHash
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 Re: Cheap, works killer, and it's easy to use  [Re: Midgetpawn]
#745724 - 08/30/14 06:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Midgetpawn said:
Be sure to secure yourself more than you might otherwise. I have a feeling grow shop employees get hassled at some point. maybe not
In texas they do. Some towns still associate the word hydroponics with marijuana. In fact ive seen an interview with local cops referring to weed in soil grown indoors as hydroponics. Dont even get me started cuz people around here still face felonies stemming from grow store stings targetting everyone coming out of them.
definately going to try this maxibloom formula.
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Midgetpawn
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Re: Cheap, works killer, and it's easy to use [Re: shagdawg420]
#745819 - 08/31/14 03:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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just read that icmag thread and you will understand
It's 180+ pages though =( It's almost like a lot of forums are still designed to be quickly loaded by 28.8 modems. Anyway, I'm just trying to grasp why people would use such high P in growth besides to save money.
Maybe it doesn't apply so much to chemical nutrients, but it seems to be well established that high P is bad if you want to benefit from the living shit on the roots... "When phosphorus is applied but not needed, it can kill off the symbiotic mycorrhizal-forming fungi required by the plant and reduce the ability to absorb iron and other micronutrients. Excess soil phosphorus also shuts down the plant’s ability to produce phytochelates, organic molecules produced by roots to increase its iron uptake."
I think what happens is the mycorrhizae do their hardest work making P available to the roots, but if there is already a lot of P they decide to just chill out, and you lose all of their other benefits.
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 Magash
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Re: Cheap, works killer, and it's easy to use [Re: Midgetpawn]
#745820 - 08/31/14 03:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The formula seems to be working so something about it must work. Myself I've never been sold on it I use the veg stuff for veg and the bloom stuff for blooming. 
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Re: Cheap, works killer, and it's easy to use [Re: Magash]
#745823 - 08/31/14 05:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea I mean you don't NEED beneficial fungus to grow, it's just supposed to be better for some things like drought resistance, nutrient uptake, and whatever else. Though I'd guess there's more reason to avoid high P in growth than just inhibiting fungus function. On the other hand I'm wondering if cannabis has more of a need for P in growth than is obvious.
It almost seems like if you can use maxibloom through a whole grow, then you could use almost any 1 part nutrient as long as it has the macro and micro nutrients you need. IDK but I'd almost prefer a 3 part nutrient line that completely separates N P and K.
Oh btw J R Peters has other shit besides jacks professional 20-20-20 and 10-30-20. They actually have a fairly diverse hydro line and a ton of different products with NPK values for different soil types and other factors I don't even understand. I think you can even order customized fertilizers based on water and soil samples you send for them to test. They seem to be very into constant research and making professional grade shit for cheap(in large amounts). You can see from pictures that they actually have a research facility, where as I only ever see hydro nutrient companies claim to.
Edit: apparently JR PETERS fertilizers are on a fairly short list of fertilizers that send up red flags. so be aware and keep an eye out for suspicious activity...
Edited by Midgetpawn (09/07/14 10:17 AM)
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13buds
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Re: Cheap, works killer, and it's easy to use [Re: Midgetpawn]
#746074 - 09/02/14 08:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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so your feed sched is basically this:
Veg- maxigro
week 1-2 / 50% strength
weeks 3-8 full strength
Flower- maxibloom
week 1-2 / 50:50 gro/bloom mix
weeks 3-5 (extend if flowering longer than 8 weeks) / maxibloom & Koolbloom (liquid)
weeks 6,7 / maxibloom & Koolbloom (powder)
week 8 / FLUSH / florakleen
note - Ph up with Silica blast 1 tsp per gallon per point
 I got that much now heres my issue 
I have the maxigro/bloom but not koolbloom (liquid or powder)
can I just substitute the FF additive powders (open sesame, beasiebloomz, cha ching) I already have according to their labels?
I just want to use them up and not let them go to waist. 
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webster10
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Re: Cheap, works killer, and it's easy to use [Re: 13buds]
#746085 - 09/02/14 11:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm no where close as knowledgable as magash on the subject, but I'd say yes. I really wouldn't see why you wouldn't be able to. Maxibloom does has a higher p content than tiger bloom so maybe it wouldn't work because of that? I really doubt that though and think that the additives will work great with maxibloom.
I have seen Magash say that he thinks the FF flowering additives (open sesame and what not) are better than koolbloom. I think he just sticks with koolbloom due to the price.
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SmokeSomeHash
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Re: Cheap, works killer, and it's easy to use [Re: webster10]
#746087 - 09/02/14 12:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maxi is a base nute and the ff additives are well...additives, so yes you should be able to use them together.
Theres nothing wrong with mixing brands, just keep in mind that youll have to do some trial and error to find the best dosages.
Finish up your ff if you got it...but as with any other scenario i would reccomend starting with a very low dose and slowly increasing based on plant response
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Magash
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Re: Cheap, works killer, and it's easy to use [Re: 13buds]
#746117 - 09/02/14 05:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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can I just substitute the FF additive powders (open sesame, beasiebloomz, cha ching) I already have according to their labels?
Yes they will work just as good and if you prefer them there is no reason to change. 
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Re: Cheap, works killer, and it's easy to use [Re: Magash]
#746161 - 09/03/14 07:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Magash said:
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can I just substitute the FF additive powders (open sesame, beasiebloomz, cha ching) I already have according to their labels?
Yes they will work just as good and if you prefer them there is no reason to change.
I have no preferences the KISS method is more my speed 
Ive only used FF because I have only been copying others regimes. I see others results and try to replicate but Im still learning why and when of the nutrients side of growing.. I can read my plant if its healthy or not but I know nothing about when a plant needs what it needs..
im only 2yrs in with knowing anything about MJ besides smoking it. 
Ive found my personal fav setup with DWC and scrog 1 plant at a time under 1000w but understanding feeding is my struggle.. so Ive just been following but not knowing why.
Im slowly getting it.. kinda.
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Midgetpawn
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Re: Cheap, works killer, and it's easy to use [Re: 13buds]
#751237 - 10/05/14 06:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey how much maxigro and bloom per gallon is best for feeding? or even what's the most you should use? the bags say 1-2 tsp per gallon, but the maxi feed schedule says to feed 1tsp/gal at the most and for soil the max is less than 1 tsp per gal. How much do other people feed their plants with maxi series? I assumed I was feeding half dose at 1tsp per gal but I may have been feeding a full dose
this shit is potent. 1tsp per gallon is barely anything
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webster10
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Re: Cheap, works killer, and it's easy to use [Re: Midgetpawn]
#751245 - 10/05/14 07:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm planning on using 1tsp maxigro per gal with tap in coco for mothers. 1tsp maxibloom per gal w/ tap for flowering plants f&d, not sure what flood cycle I'll use yet but I think mag does the same. I think...
EDIT: I meant I think he uses 1tps/gallon when using the maxi series not the coco or f&d. Just clarifying.
Edited by webster10 (10/05/14 07:36 PM)
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Re: Cheap, works killer, and it's easy to use [Re: webster10]
#751264 - 10/05/14 09:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ive been using 1tsp per gal for veg and flower in my dwc, been good to me so far, its only been 1 cycle but 
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Midgetpawn
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Re: Cheap, works killer, and it's easy to use [Re: 13buds]
#751292 - 10/06/14 09:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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that's what I was doing too, 1tsp per gal, but after seeing that the feed schedule suggests 3/4tsp per gallon I'm wondering if half a tsp to .3/4 tsp might be better.
I wonder how many people are trying out maxigro or bloom atm =P they are surely some sexy little bags of nutrients. potent. I've yet to establish anything specific about the results other than it works and mag uses it. I suppose that's good enough.
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Re: Cheap, works killer, and it's easy to use [Re: Midgetpawn]
#751298 - 10/06/14 11:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I bought maxigro and bloom because of this thread. Works well and pH is way easier to adjust than FF nutes.
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budgrowerwannabe
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Re: Cheap, works killer, and it's easy to use [Re: webster10]
#751306 - 10/06/14 11:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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webster10 said:
I bought maxigro and bloom because of this thread. Works well and pH is way easier to adjust than FF nutes.
 lol I did the same thing!! Works good according to Mag
So Im going to give it a run next time with this PE I just got!
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webster10
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Re: Cheap, works killer, and it's easy to use [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#751307 - 10/06/14 11:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not gonna use your moon dust? 
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Re: Cheap, works killer, and it's easy to use [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#751320 - 10/06/14 12:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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budgrowerwannabe said:
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webster10 said:
I bought maxigro and bloom because of this thread. Works well and pH is way easier to adjust than FF nutes.
lol I did the same thing!! Works good according to Mag
So Im going to give it a run next time with this PE I just got!
just cut mine down yesterday 
I'll let you know how it all turned out after the cure.. all I know is so far this is the stickiest plant Ive ever had.
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budgrowerwannabe
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Re: Cheap, works killer, and it's easy to use [Re: 13buds]
#751326 - 10/06/14 01:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sweet 
take a pic so we can see what the buds look like!
Did you use this maxi on it???
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budgrowerwannabe
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Re: Cheap, works killer, and it's easy to use [Re: webster10]
#751328 - 10/06/14 01:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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webster10 said:
Not gonna use your moon dust?
oo ooooo
Im going to give it a try .
Just on a strain that I grew out a few times so I can see if there is any diff. Feel me
Wannabe
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Re: Cheap, works killer, and it's easy to use [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#751398 - 10/06/14 08:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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budgrowerwannabe said:
Quote:
webster10 said:
Not gonna use your moon dust?
oo ooooo
Im going to give it a try .
Just on a strain that I grew out a few times so I can see if there is any diff. Feel me
Wannabe
You better snap some pics of them buds. Winner winner chicken dinner.
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