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 Shiversblood
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 Re: if a child as you if god is real, what do you say?  [Re: mjmihalov]
#719467 - 03/06/14 05:45 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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I would just say yeah, he's real. Why crush the kid? Plus I believe in him anyway.
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Re: if a child asks you if god is real, what do you say? [Re: thedrake] 1
#719474 - 03/06/14 06:52 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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I tell them "some people think so, but not me".
People aren't born into religion, they have it taught to them. Nobody is born believing in crazy religious traditions. If you force feed a child that from birth, its more or less brainwashing them into following your beliefs.
I tell the kid "I feel like it is unfair to give god credit for everything. it sells the universe short" and let them figure shit out on their own.
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Re: if a child as you if god is real, what do you say? [Re: Shiversblood]
#719512 - 03/06/14 10:59 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shiversblood said:
I would just say yeah, he's real. Why crush the kid?
What if he asked you if unicorns were real?
Would you still refuse to crush his fantasy?
Kids ask questions because they don't know the answer. So it would be impossible to 'crush the kid' by clearing up an important, legitimate question. No one has any evidence for any of the gods in any book/bible. There's more evidence for the existence of unicorns than there is for that of "god". So don't assume that you're gonna 'crush a kid' by answering questions in an honest fashion.
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Re: if a child as you if god is real, what do you say? [Re: niteowl] 3
#719526 - 03/06/14 12:05 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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closed veil
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 Re: if a child as you if god is real, what do you say? [Re: P-O]
#719544 - 03/06/14 01:01 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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"How many gods do you know that are logical? Name two!"
~Old Man Coyote
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Re: if a child asks you if god is real, what do you say? [Re: drawde]
#719585 - 03/06/14 03:56 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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drawde said:
That God is real, all powerful, angry as fuck, and tells me everything you do.
That should keep the little shit in check for a while.
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Re: if a child as you if god is real, what do you say? [Re: niteowl]
#719601 - 03/06/14 05:55 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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niteowl said:
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Shiversblood said:
I would just say yeah, he's real. Why crush the kid?
What if he asked you if unicorns were real?
Would you still refuse to crush his fantasy?
Kids ask questions because they don't know the answer. So it would be impossible to 'crush the kid' by clearing up an important, legitimate question. No one has any evidence for any of the gods in any book/bible. There's more evidence for the existence of unicorns than there is for that of "god". So don't assume that you're gonna 'crush a kid' by answering questions in an honest fashion.
Honest fashion eh?
You just said theres no evidence that god is real, and no evidence he is fake, thus, awnsering in a honest fashion would not be to say, "gods fake" because u dont know.
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niteowl
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Re: if a child as you if god is real, what do you say? [Re: Shiversblood]
#719627 - 03/06/14 08:26 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Please state where I ever said 'gods fake'
Just that the evidence for your sky fairy is simply not there.
Many gods are, in fact, fake and its easy to see that they are fake
It really depends on what you mean when you use the term 'god'
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Re: if a child as you if god is real, what do you say? [Re: Shiversblood] 2
#719638 - 03/06/14 09:41 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yea he wasn't implying that "god" is fake.
"God" is a belief, most religions rely on a common concept of faith, or the belief in something despite the lack of conclusive evidence supporting that belief. Belief in "god" is a subjective thing, it is something you either think or do not think exists (assuming One cares enough to make a decision on the matter). The belief in "god" is just as legitimate as the disbelief of "god", as long as you don't attach all of the unnecessary canonical bull that comes with all of the man-made "god-books" that claim to know the true meaning and intent of "god".
A key point I think most people are trying to make is that belief in "god" is a decision made by the individual. An individual is first presented with all relevant information and then makes a decision based on the information supplied. This information may include the concept of faith, it doesn't (and shouldn't) be limited to hard scientific evidence (that biases the decision too much and doesn't paint a complete picture. To imply to a child that "god" exists in a very concrete way, without mentioning the lack of evidence, the vast differences in opinion on the matter, and the extreme violence that has happened in the past in the name of "god" would essentially be the same thing as telling a small child that people who have different color skin are evil demons and should be hated. Since they are not given the full story behind the differences in opinion on this matter, the lack of scientific evidence to back up that claim, or the historical background of human suffering in the name of racism....a seemingly retarded statement like "people of different color skin are evil" suddenly becomes fact in the mind of a child (and can result in some really fucked up ideological action later on in life).
This kind of one-sided brain washing of youth has led to countless acts of violence, and One should draw upon the mistakes of history and realize that faith will not die out simply by presenting children with the whole picture, but it will allow them to make their own choices and decide for themselves. This usually results in a better understanding of the bigger picture, and a strong faith (or lack thereof) that does not require violence and forced unanimity to convince One that their decision is the right decision. It would be much easier for people with opposing opinions to at least partially see where the other side is coming from, and would be better equipped to solve problems in a civil, non-violent manner.
But then again, these are all like, my opinions...man      
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Re: if a child as you if god is real, what do you say? [Re: Data]
#719684 - 03/07/14 11:14 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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+5
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Re: if a child as you if god is real, what do you say? [Re: niteowl]
#719731 - 03/07/14 02:56 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: if a child as you if god is real, what do you say? [Re: Data]
#719734 - 03/07/14 03:42 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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You only live once (maybe), believe what you want. 
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Re: if a child as you if god is real, what do you say? [Re: UltimateDevotion]
#719739 - 03/07/14 05:01 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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niteowl said:
What if he asked you if unicorns were real?
Would you still refuse to crush his fantasy?
how do we know that there not? are there really a fantasy? what about bigfoot is he/she a fantasy that I've seen or others have seen and swear by?
now on to the subject well i don't have kids(only 19) ,but my cousins kid she came too me cause when she mad at her parents or something I'm the one she comes too well shes 13 when she asked me (and i was 17) two questions do i believe in god? and is there a god?
(here's what i told her)
" i don't want my personal beliefs to change yours you have to deicide on your own what to believe." i said
she said"o.k"
" well yes and no is there a god maybe i can't say whether there is or is not ,but i think there is something. i don't belive in the normal christian god i don't believe in it cause it just doesn't add up too me. ,but the god i believe in created the dust that the universe is made of and watched it evolve from it and watches it all unfold letting us make our own decisions in the short life that we have." i said then was interrupted
" but isn't that cruel to watch something you created kill itself and hurt each other" she said
" yes in a way and no, i view it as being a parent in a way you can only do what you can do and somethings just happen like your children you can try to teach them right ,but you can't control them there decisions are up to them. if you try to change them then there not free to live on there own and there a puppet of a preplanned life so is it cruel to watch something you created die in a war or of a disease is it sad yes ,but not cruel." then i told her about my friend dieing and my dads suicide and other bad shit and stuff that happened in my life and explained what i learned from the experiences and i would be wouldn't be who i was today without them.
so she asked "so what should i believe in cause i don't know"
i said " i don't know its up too you what to believe in i can tell you too 10,000 different things and none could be right to you cause its all my opinion you have to deicide on your own you'll find out one day."
we hugged and talked about some other shit.
that what i said about the subject ,but this all my opinion though.
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Re: if a child as you if god is real, what do you say? [Re: itsaconspiracy]
#719747 - 03/07/14 05:55 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: if a child as you if god is real, what do you say? [Re: P-O] 5
#719827 - 03/08/14 08:04 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Noooo I lost a leaf because of this thread. 
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Re: if a child as you if god is real, what do you say? [Re: Shiversblood] 1
#719830 - 03/08/14 08:13 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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i'm change my 5 i gave you to ZERO!
JUST FOR BITCHING ABOUT RATINGS! 
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Re: if a child as you if god is real, what do you say? [Re: closed veil]
#719880 - 03/08/14 11:12 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Down to three leaves now. It went down again.
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Re: if a child as you if god is real, what do you say? [Re: Shiversblood]
#719881 - 03/08/14 11:13 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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if u dont stop bitchin.... i predict u go down to a 2 
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Re: if a child as you if god is real, what do you say? [Re: closed veil]
#719883 - 03/08/14 11:16 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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closed veil said:
i'm change my 5 i gave you to ZERO!
JUST FOR BITCHING ABOUT RATINGS!
Then I'll rate you zero too.
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P-O said:
if u dont stop bitchin.... i predict u go down to a 2
I don't care.
Edited by Shiversblood (03/08/14 11:19 AM)
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Re: if a child as you if god is real, what do you say? [Re: Shiversblood] 1
#719894 - 03/08/14 11:42 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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My rating knocked you down to a 2. 
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