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 Re: Starting seeds under 12/12?  [Re: TribalSeed]
#710288 - 01/28/14 07:15 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Starting seeds under 12/12? [Re: Deadkndys420]
#710313 - 01/28/14 09:20 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Starting seeds under 12/12? [Re: TribalSeed]
#710413 - 01/29/14 01:27 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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HAha sorry to go off subject. Those helicopter gensis games were awesome though.
I understood starting 12/12 to be a way of keeping sativas shorter since some of them grow into monsters. I'm newer to the hobby and thought starting in 12/12 was a common known thing since a ton of the sativa seed descriptions suggest starting into a 12/12 cycle, but I guess I haven't actually read much about it. I've seen at least 1 strain need 15 weeks flower time, Which is crazy.
I plan to start off some of the longer flowering sativas in 12/12. Well maybe give em a few days veg. Some of the sativa 12/12 starters I have queued up are SAGE, Y Griega(85 day sativa), Jack's Cleaner 2, Ghost train haze, and Hawaiian snow. If anyone cares what other people are planning to grow.
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Re: Starting seeds under 12/12? [Re: Midgetpawn]
#710428 - 01/29/14 03:17 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've never heard of starting under 12/12. I would veg them until they start looking like actual plants, not just a few leaves coming in on a stick.
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Re: Starting seeds under 12/12? [Re: phychotron]
#710434 - 01/29/14 03:38 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would veg them until they start looking like actual plants, not just a few leaves coming in on a stick.
Thats what I was planning on doing.
Veg them in my GH for 2-4 weeks and then flower them outdoors.
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Re: Starting seeds under 12/12? [Re: Deadkndys420]
#710580 - 01/30/14 10:16 AM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Starting seeds under 12/12? [Re: Deadkndys420]
#710593 - 01/30/14 10:59 AM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Am I the only one that thinks this thread is confusing as hell?!? OP answered his own questions. 
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Re: Starting seeds under 12/12? [Re: SacajaGanja]
#710634 - 01/30/14 03:03 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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All I was saying is that multiple seed companies suggest starting certain larger sativas under 12/12 or else they will be monsters.
Here are a couple quotes
"In hydroponic systems and aeroponicos we recomended put directly to 12/12, either from cuttings or seeds"
"Put her directly under a 12/12 schedule or a very limited pregrow phase with continuous light (24/7) to limit height"
I see it a lot. Some say to put directly into 12/12 if you're doing hydro or else they'll get too big.
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phychotron
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Re: Starting seeds under 12/12? [Re: Midgetpawn]
#710730 - 01/30/14 08:58 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sounds like a sales gimmick.
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Re: Starting seeds under 12/12? [Re: Magash]
#711019 - 02/02/14 10:55 AM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'll get it in the next day or two. Like I said it's a old pic so I gotta find it (I know where it's at) and scan it in to my computer. Put it this way. When I grew this plant they didn't even have home computers yet.  I did have a state of the art VCR though 
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Re: Starting seeds under 12/12? [Re: Deadkndys420]
#711031 - 02/02/14 01:54 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes you can start a plant under 12/12, but you'll get much less yield.
Depending upon the strain. For pure sativas, it's not horrible, for for an indica, you'll get a paltry harvest. For a hybrid, you'll get much less. You'll also get much less than if you grow the sativa regular style.
but DJ Short does point out that Sativas cycles should more closely follow the actual cycles that equatorial sativas experience with their days all being shorter, so this idea may not be as far off from nature as many would assume, just because the northern climates day times follow this similar time format.
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