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 Midgetpawn
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 Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013.  [Re: BluntguY 207]
#710163 - 01/27/14 07:43 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've been reading a lot of good things about people just using J R Peters - Jack's Classic all purpose + Blossom booster. Certainly seems good for yield. I've yet to find anyone say anything bad about their chemical? fertilizer.
If I had the money I'd try house and garden, canna or Bio Nova.
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: PharmerFrank]
#710763 - 01/31/14 07:21 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think I'd read that botanicare uses water as it's main ingredient. If no one mentioned that.
FloraNova actually looks like it'd be better than most of the bottled nutrient lines. I'd not heard of lucas formula till this threa, but apparently lucas uses floranova now(at least a couple years ago). I wonder if lucas has tried anything besides GH
Could always go DIY organic and use bat guano, worm casings, bone, blood, feather meal, soft rock phosphate, greensand, alfalfa, and some fish and kelp and maybe azomite. I know earthjuice is opne of if not the closest to being a real organic bottled nutrient company btw.
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#710842 - 01/31/14 07:48 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea that occurred to me after writing this, but I'd read(I think on growery) that Botanicare supposedly has excessive amounts of water in their forumlas.
I know liquid karma is a good catalyst to have though.
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#710879 - 02/01/14 05:00 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea maybe they are no more watered down than the other top liquid nutrient brands. I really have no idea. BTW all bio-bizz's products have (discontinued) next to them on amazon.
All I know is I'm having a hard time choosing a nutrient line to try out/compare and you can pretty much eliminate them all if you use opinion to decide. I'm about to just support some small underdog company like blue planet or maverick sun.
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#710914 - 02/01/14 03:12 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think uprising foundation is calcium and magnesium, maybe more. My understanding of the uprising 3 part is that it's meant to be added as a top or side dressing to roots organics main nutrient line. In hydro I have no clue.
Btw I've been looking at this company Blue planet more, and their organic line has all the best organic ingredients, and only organic ingredients. A lot of other companies leave stuff out or put uneeded stuff in their "organic" lines. I don't know anything about their non organic nutrients, but they claim to refund your money if they don't out perform all other nutrients. I'm starting lean tward blue planet to try.
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: CrushNazT]
#710933 - 02/01/14 04:19 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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haha well that was just paraphrasing. "Try our nutrients and you will not be disappointed. We offer a 100% money back guarantee if you are not satisfied in any way." is what they say. They claim to have spent a lot of time finding the highest quality raw materials. I'm sure most of these mineral based nutrient lines are mostly the same ingredients. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the big name nutrient brands buy ultra cheap bulk ingredients to maximize profit.
One of these companies should really just straight up make a cannabis fertilizer line that talks about being for and has specific directions for cannabis.
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#710983 - 02/02/14 01:08 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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still they are wink wink "plant" nutrients. Even canna doesn't mention cannabis and they are just missing the bis in their company name.
Idk I'm not making serious conversation. I just think if these brands are formulated for cannabis then why not say it instead of hinting it.
as for that uprising stuff... just add a tiny bit to your feeding mix and see if anything bad happens -shrug- I know weed likes cal and mag.
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: phychotron] 1
#711034 - 02/02/14 02:30 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea I guess it's a legal thing, and mostly an issue of not being able to sell to all markets. Still I think a product like THC Booster or a CBD Booster would probably sell a lot. Not sure what's in these hypothetical thc and cbd boosters.
Oh by the way if anyone is trying to go true organic, that company blue planet nutrients 3 part organic nutrient line has every actual organic ingredient that TheREV suggests using for cannabis in his true living organics book, while all the other "organic" nutrient lines either only have half the ingredients or they have pseudo organic ingredients. The companies website also has all links to marijuana reform websites as it suggested links. I don't work for that company or the rev btw and actually think they should advertise on this site.
Cannabis Grow + Bloom
Marijuana Bud Booster?
Happy black history month. I personally will be celebrating with any of the big mommas house series.
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: phychotron]
#711070 - 02/02/14 06:13 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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Interesting. I see even small companies putting things like O.G. in front of their names with no explained significance of the OG. Of course people assume and are probably right.
I get the impression it's not easy distributing nutrients around the world. I think I'd try for a name loophole and claim my nutrients are based on my buddy Marijuana's formula and make "Marijuana's A and B formula" heh idk
btw I wasn't attacking anyone with my black history month comment. I think the idea of a month to showcase a few notable people that have a certain skin color is a little degrading and promotes the idea that "you are different" and only deserve a month of patronage.
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#711409 - 02/04/14 06:28 AM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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Heh I have no idea if you are being a dick or not, Drgreenthumb, but I don't claim to be a source of expert information nor am I even 100% sure of anything especially when it comes to growing plants. I try to make that clear if I give advice. I mostly am trying to learn and bullshit. Or thank you? btw did you start the seed company Dr Greenthumb?
and yea you really shouldn't need any of these bottled liquids or additives to grow successfully. It's not like the average gardener is using more than miracle grow. My dad has only ever grown with 1 bag of miracle grow(fuck MG since Monsanto owns them) and his plants were always huge with some great smelling sticky shit. A little airy, but I think it was the t12 lights.
Anyway, yea since there was no consensus and I've been shopping my ass off. My speculative suggestion is Blue Planet Nutrients. At least I'm buying this shit based on a few things Vs a ton of other nutrient lines that I spent a lot of time considering and looking into. I briefly talked to the creator who seems to genuinely care about offering the highest quality nutrients, he has a masters in plant science from texas a&m. His lines feeding schedule is just 2-3 part main nutriens, a mycorrhizae thing, a vitamin mix(he lists all his ingredients in all his shit), seaweed, and 2 bloom boosters(1-3-3 with micronutrients and 2-4-10 no micronutrients).
As for the 2 bloom booster, which you don't even need and could just use more of their flowering main nutrient, they say this.. I'd never heard this before, but it's not a sales gimmick and based on research according to the creator.
"Once a plant has fully transitioned into the flowering phase, and bud site development is maximized, a bloom booster with a 1:4 ratio of elemental phosphorus to elemental potassium is needed to produce more structurally sound buds (dense bud formation throughout the calyx cluster). After the first half of the flower phase, growers should begin transitioning to a lower phosphorus (P) / higher potassium (K) bloom booster. Elevated levels of phosphorus are no longer needed to maximize development of bud sites but elevated levels of potassium is necessary to plump and harden buds and maximize the yield of high-value plants. Although Potassium does not form a structural part of any plant component or compound, It is required for various metabolic activities and physiological functions. It is agreed throughout the plant science community that elevated levels of potassium are unequivocally required for maximum yield of flowering plants."
or if you are broke Jack's classic 20-20-20 and 10-30-20 is supposed to do the trick for bud.
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