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 phychotron
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 Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013.  [Re: Midgetpawn] 2
#710771 - 01/31/14 08:41 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Every liquid nutrient has water as its main ingredient, its the solvent, the nutrients are its solute.
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: hamloaf] 1
#690526 - 10/25/13 05:42 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I use Advanced Nutrients and have great results.
Grab yourself a good ph/ppm meter for your grow and you'll kick ass with most nutrient lines out there. 
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: Stoneth] 1
#691008 - 10/29/13 02:41 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Way to be so 6 years ago stoney 
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: hamloaf] 1
#709754 - 01/24/14 08:20 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Let's bring this talk back for 2014!
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: Harry_Ba11sach] 1
#709755 - 01/24/14 08:28 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Still Botanicaire for me. With Kool Bloom, and earthworm casting/guano teas.
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: Farmer Joe] 1
#709788 - 01/24/14 10:37 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: SacajaGanja] 1
#710052 - 01/27/14 10:14 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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SacajaGanja said:
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
Everytime I hear someone talk about AN it goes like this;
"Their shit is way too expensive, and they have too many damn products! They must think we're idiots trying to make us buy 15 different bottles of shit! Oh and also I have the dankest, heaviest nugs I've ever grown using their stuff."
As far as I am concerned, price should NOT be an issue... Do you want a superior product, or would you rather an inferior. I just have not worked with AN indoors.
~Skunk
price does not dictate a superior product.
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: CrushNazT] 1
#710053 - 01/27/14 10:16 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Look up a few posts, you will see I agree. But I think we can all agree on the fact that we all... Want a superior product.
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: Midgetpawn] 1
#710942 - 02/01/14 05:07 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Midgetpawn said:
One of these companies should really just straight up make a cannabis fertilizer line that talks about being for and has specific directions for cannabis.
You know Advanced Nutrients does that, right? And honestly that's why they get such consistently stellar reviews (from people that have used it). It's made specifically for cannabis, and honestly it shows.
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: Hawksresurrection] 1
#710947 - 02/01/14 05:47 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, but AN does advertise it as such.
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: Midgetpawn] 1
#710995 - 02/02/14 08:23 AM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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Canna is a type of flower and were growing flowers... get it?
If you specifically say your nutrients are made for bud then you are conspiring with the grower to break federal laws. Advanced Nutrients has had problems in the past by saying they're for bud, so they started advertising it more on the down low. Their website should not have anything about cannabis, unless its changed in the last few years.
Just like how Tommy Chong got busted for selling smoking equipment, they can be bitches if you specifically say its for something illegal. "its not a bong, its a chong" but bong being a marijuana inhalation device vs Water pipe, is a 'tobacco' pipe. If you said the B-word in a glass shop 10 years ago you'd risk getting kicked out, gotta ask to see that "water pipe." One of the local glass shops enforces the no B-word policy, the other is run by a stoner who has no concern for the old ways, even starting up bud conversations with customers. Obviously Chong's case was a bit more complicated than that, but its all about INTENT.
Edit: I found one thing about cannabis on the AN "about" page. "We have been at the biggest medical and general marijuana events." Thats it.
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: phychotron] 1
#711034 - 02/02/14 02:30 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea I guess it's a legal thing, and mostly an issue of not being able to sell to all markets. Still I think a product like THC Booster or a CBD Booster would probably sell a lot. Not sure what's in these hypothetical thc and cbd boosters.
Oh by the way if anyone is trying to go true organic, that company blue planet nutrients 3 part organic nutrient line has every actual organic ingredient that TheREV suggests using for cannabis in his true living organics book, while all the other "organic" nutrient lines either only have half the ingredients or they have pseudo organic ingredients. The companies website also has all links to marijuana reform websites as it suggested links. I don't work for that company or the rev btw and actually think they should advertise on this site.
Cannabis Grow + Bloom
Marijuana Bud Booster?
Happy black history month. I personally will be celebrating with any of the big mommas house series.
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phychotron
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: Midgetpawn] 1
#711439 - 02/04/14 10:46 AM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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You'll find every company jives about how their PK formula is the real correct ratio. And its never a sales pitch, its all based on "research"
Nutrients are not that expensive, my last crop cost $2.42 per ounce in nutrients, with $0.79/Oz in base nutrients. Its not that I don't know that its cheaper to build my own nutrients, its just that the pain in the ass of setting up my own nutrient line, and not worth it when liquid nutrients are that cheap.
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: phychotron] 1
#711626 - 02/05/14 06:17 AM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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phychotron said:
its so hard to break a good system to experiment with saving $30-40 every few months. My time is worth more than that at this point.
Exactly  Time is money!
We actually sell 2 powder based nutrient lines at the shop I work at. Our most popular powder nutrient is Raw by NPK Industries.
They make a pretty solid line. anyone here considering switching to powdered nutes should consider giving them a try!
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hamloaf
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 The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. 2.0 The 2014 Version!
#690424 - 10/24/13 12:44 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey. What is your preferred nutrient solution and why? Been outta' the grow game since 2008 and noticed a lot of changes in the way of advancements in grow equipment and there are A LOT more nutrient brands to choose from now so I seek your opinions on which ones are the best these days based on your experience and opinions. The last brand of nutrients I was using was called Advanced Nutrients.
Edited by hamloaf (01/25/14 09:07 AM)
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: hamloaf]
#690425 - 10/24/13 12:47 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I really like Botanicaire. Reasonably priced and works wonderfully, also hard to burn with.
But I use a myriad of supplements as well.
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#690447 - 10/24/13 03:05 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I first started with techniflora's recipe for success, but I'm now looking into making my own nutrient mixes from base salts. It costs pennies on the dollar compared to buying the commercialized bottles of the same thing. It takes a bit of study, but I've spent about four days reading this long ass thread on mixing your own salts, and I think I've got a sort-of almost grasp of it so far.... lol. Plus, there are nutrient calculators I can use to make my own formula. I plug in the NPK values I want, and the specific salts I have, and it spits out a recipe to make a simple A & B part formula. As soon as I get a new laptop (I've been stuck with only my phone for about two months) I'll be able to play around with THAT, and get a real good grasp of it.
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: Farmer Joe]
#690528 - 10/25/13 06:52 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Went to the local hydro store yesterday to do exactly that (pick up a PH tester). For 20$ I got this small PH kit of PH up and down, PH test drops, a test vial and a dropper by General Hydroponics.
Going to the hydro store yesterday and seeing all the brands of nutrients on the shelf was overwhelming a little bit and is what inspired this question.
I'm partial to organic nutrients so I like what Hawksapprecntice suggested. Two brands of nutrient solutions that are being considered are Telafloura and Roots brand nutrients.
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: hamloaf]
#690530 - 10/25/13 07:50 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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i like botanicare. ive only used it on one grow but i dont see myself switching to anything else soon.
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phychotron
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Re: The Preferred Nutrient Solution of The Growery Community 2013. [Re: hamloaf]
#690534 - 10/25/13 08:48 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've switched to Canna when I went 100% coco, best move yet. I was with Advanced but they're were always problems with the plants, especially around the P-K boost-- flushing was always a bitch. I have a non-recirculating tank and the nutrients would form solids and have a bunch of crap after a few days of sitting. I emailed them for support but they wouldn't really address an issue over email, just phone (which I didn't have at the time, but they still refused to help via email.) I think thats because they don't want to put anything in writing that may be negative about their product. 12 PH.D's to develop the formula, but what they don't tell you is that 11 of those are in marketing--full line is 17 bottles give or take a few depending on what they have to pull off the shelf from time to time.
Its hard to find at most stores but Canna is the simplest nutrient line I've seen, A+B and zym, PK one week, Boost(flavor, speed) in flower but optional, rhizo when your rooting, also optional but recommended. Thats it. I'll mix it up pretty much full strength the whole time during flower, with a few random days of plain water, but its only at around 800ppm's and the plants love it. Flushing got much easier also. The leaf tips might show signs of a little bit of burn after a few weeks but never a real problem after a day or so of plain water.
Silica is single-handedly the best additive I've tried, I recommend everyone add it to their regime. Strengthens the plant cells and protects against insects and environment. It will help keep your buds from sagging over when they get top heavy.
Pretty much everyone here has started with the pH adjust kit from GH. They work but eventually become a pain in the ass. I've only had to use the pH+ when I overshot the pH-, but rarely, and I would usually just add more water instead. Advanced makes a good/strong pH-, especially compared to GH's liquid and powder.
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