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Plants Stolen; Can Anyone Clear Up These Pics
#684957 - 09/12/13 05:01 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pics First, Story Below
![](/forums/thumbs/g13-37/902562631-thumb_WGI_0002.jpg) Me in the hoodie and 2 friends(guards)
![](/forums/thumbs/g13-37/902562746-thumb_WGI_0004.jpg) Caught in the act
![](/forums/thumbs/g13-37/902562795-thumb_WGI_0005.jpg) Caught in the act
![](/forums/thumbs/g13-37/902562845-thumb_WGI_0006.jpg) I didnt spot it at first but my friend says he sees 2 ppl
![](/forums/thumbs/g13-37/902562893-thumb_WGI_0009.jpg) He/They came back at 12 but the rain obscured everything
![](/forums/thumbs/g13-37/902562941-thumb_WGI_0011.jpg) The next morning
Ill write up n post the story in a sec just wanna get these up first. Does anyone know of any programs or websites I could use to clear these up or anything like that. Only info I got other than the pics is that he/they smoke mark tens and were probably watching closely for at least a couple days.
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Re: Plants Stolen; Can Anyone Clear Up These Pics [Re: Mahavatar]
#684999 - 09/12/13 07:43 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yea so its been a pretty crazy week.
Monday the landlord finally spotted my plants, they werent hidden or anything, they were right in the backyard behind some brush. He was worried about the cops and asked me to cut them, I told him I would be happy to swear out something saying he had nothing to do with it and have it notarised but was clear that I would not cut them as I nor the plants have caused any harm to anybody.
Later that night 9:30ish me n my guards are in the tent munchin on shrooms when we hear............. the chopper. Its far off but I get this feeling we should really be outside to see where he is, its getting very loud now so I quickly jump out just in time to see it fly directly over my building, the backyard and then the plot, hes only meters above the tree line, turns on the spotlight right after going over the plants and hes comin back for a second pass, were laughing and panicked at the same time, so hes comin down on us again and im thinking in the back of my mind even if we hide from the light hes still got probably got infrared, right? So anyway me and M both go for the nearby brush and take cover 2ft from each other without knowing it.... but D the bald guy sees this as an opportunity to live out a childhood dream of seeing if he can outrun the chopper... yea lol so he bolts across the lawn, he didnt make it. I watched him make a third pass from a safe spot then we waited til 1:45am to call my partner after his shift and figure out what to do (I heard the next day that cops kept going by slowly during that time), half whats there is C's my partner and he wants me to cut it all now, D and M agree but on principal I just couldn't do it even if the cops were on their way. I didnt hurt anybody and neither did those plants so we discuss it until 3:30, C's now offering me a 70/30 split of everything to cut them now, which I really had to consider and D n M are half threatening to cut em without my consent, in the end the plan is to get all the grow gear and other evidence out of the house, take down the tent and clear the fuck out in case the cops come. Around 7am me and M park down the road with some weed and my 20" bong and stake out my building, meanwhile D no longer cares if cops show up and is sound asleep in my appartment, just in case I told him(again) never answer to the legal name and always ask questions.
My guys were out there friday saturday and sunday, monday the chopper came and tuesday they were stolen, somebody was watching or just super lucky. Its fucking weird because it was really well done all clean cuts right at the base but the buds right now dry up to nothing!
If I find out who it is ill be filing a big claim against them at queens bench(civil or superior court i forget), something like 1500$ X 25plants, plus the breeding work they fucked up, for 3yrs now me and C have been working a pandoras box X chem valley kush cross and 2yrs on (white widow X chem valley K) X BubbleGum. How much do you figure thats worth?
And yes I know it all sounds crazy.
-------------------- Most people consider the course of events as natural and inevitable. They little know what radical change are possible through prayer. Every morning I offer my body, my mind and any ability that I posses, to be used by Thee, O infinite creator, in whatever way Thou dost choose to express Thyself through me. I know that all work is Thy work, and that no task is too difficult or too menial when offered to Thee in loving service.
Paramahansa Yogananda.
Edited by Mahavatar (09/12/13 10:41 PM)
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Re: Plants Stolen; Can Anyone Clear Up These Pics [Re: Mahavatar]
#685001 - 09/12/13 07:57 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here they are before they got jacked
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And thank you hawk for moving this here.
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Re: Plants Stolen; Can Anyone Clear Up These Pics [Re: Mahavatar]
#685006 - 09/12/13 09:38 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Okay so I've been playing with fotor.com and the SmartDeblur app but I barely know what im doing, this isn't my forté.
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And seriously if anyones any ideas what that breeding work this guy fucked up is worth that would be great, heres a list of some of the seeds that were being produced there; (Male Pollen)Chem Valley Kush(CVK) X: (WWxCVK)X B.Gum and PK(P.Box X CVK) and BubbleGum
(Male Pollen)(White Russian X PK) X: (WWxCVK)X B.Gum and PK(P.Box X CVK) and BubbleGum
-------------------- Most people consider the course of events as natural and inevitable. They little know what radical change are possible through prayer. Every morning I offer my body, my mind and any ability that I posses, to be used by Thee, O infinite creator, in whatever way Thou dost choose to express Thyself through me. I know that all work is Thy work, and that no task is too difficult or too menial when offered to Thee in loving service.
Paramahansa Yogananda.
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Re: Plants Stolen; Can Anyone Clear Up These Pics [Re: Magash]
#685546 - 09/17/13 06:32 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Magash said:
Why (question to the OP) exactly were the plants planted in a open area again. A area as you put it you needed guards?
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Well I keep I thinking about it and sorry to answer your question with a question but... Why not?... Why don't more of you guys put plants out in the open?
Cops n Thieves, right, right.
Hey, cops are dicks no argument there. They'll com fuck with your life, destroy your property and think they have every right to do so.
But, they do this based on what I ask?? (besides ignorance)
I think most of you would agree with the assertion that we are all born free and equal and therefore "each has the freedom to do all that he wills provided that he infringes not the equal right of any other" and that "the only purpose for which power can be rightly exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others."
So to all of you who claim that growing, smoking, selling, holding are victimless "crimes" and therefore not really crimes at all, then I have to ask; Why do you hide it? Let them come and cause you damages (which you can collect on if you know who you are), how do you think they're gonna explain that one when they meet their maker, let me guess "I was just following orders", meanwhile you can die happy knowing you stood up for what you honestly believed was right!
And I fucking guarantee you you're right. Of course you didnt hurt anybody by putting a plant in the ground and of course that plant is your property. Due process and the rule of law still exist. The people need to go but the system does work, they cant just throw that stuff out the window and still claim to be legitimate.
So how then in any country governed by the rule of law do they justify and get away with this i.e. locking ppl up for victimless "offenses", etc? I'll give you the answer to that; you consented to it...everytime... right from the get go.
If you truly believe you're not doing anything wrong then what are you hiding?! By the simple fact that you concealed your activities you demonstrate very clearly to them that you are doing something you shouldn't be and you know it! Congratulations, you just agreed that you are what they said you are; someone who shouldn't be doing "that".
Stop letting people tell you who you are, taxpayer, driver, citizen, resident. None of us even knows exactly what we are in our entirety, but in any case I don't remember ever explicitly agreeing not to grow Cannabis....Did you?
Who am I? What do I have to do with them? Where do they get off forcing their shit on me?
Oh and for you guys in the states; What was your country founded as, a republic or a democracy? Which is it now, a republic or a democracy? Whats the difference?
I believe I know but want to see what ppl who live there have to say
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Re: Plants Stolen; Can Anyone Clear Up These Pics [Re: Magash]
#685567 - 09/17/13 11:08 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey im not so blind as to disregard the economic reality of the status quo and admittedly most of my patches were done the "conventional" way, what im saying is its bullshit and I think its more stupid to be hiding in the first place and thereby tacitly agreeing to their bullshit.
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. We have a moral responsibility to disobeys unjust laws. If your not part of the solution your part of the problem.
You say you didnt agree so how are they allowed to regulate you in regards to a private matter i.e. concerns no one but yourself? Are you a slave? How is this lawful? Does that not conflict with your human rights? So how can it apply to you? Do you know who you are?
Ill tell you who your Gov presumes you are...surety for a legal fiction. And until you rebut that, you are! So stop letting them tell you who you are and make them prove their bullshit claims. If you know who you are they cant touch you then any unlawful interaction they choose to proceed with is just going to create a debt owed to you. You said it yourself, the public(YOU) permits them(public servants/trustees) to enact laws for us i.e. in our best interest. If they're not acting in your best interest then clearly they are operating outside their mandate. We have no one to blame but ourselves for the mess our out of control public servants have caused. And we owe to each other and future generations to clean it up!!
And yea I had guards and they still got stolen. If my camera hadnt been obscured by the rain I'd probably already know who it was and theres still a chance ill find out at which point Ill just file a claim for damages against the guy. What are you gonna do if your plants get stolen god forbid...
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Re: Plants Stolen; Can Anyone Clear Up These Pics [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#685585 - 09/18/13 09:28 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just want to interject this one curiosity: how did the guarding work? These guys sat on lawn chairs and drank beer for 5-6 months?
No. D was the main guy and was supposed to be there 24/7 from sept.7 to about oct.7 in a tent about 15ft from the plants. M was the alternate ready to take over for D incase he needed to go somewhere. ![:hillbilly: :hillbilly:](https://files.growery.org/smileys/hillbilly.gif)
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Also they didnt do there job cus your shit got ripped![:mad2: :mad2:](https://files.growery.org/smileys/mad2.gif)
Yea no shit sherlock and if you actually read what I posted its pretty obvious why. We had every reason to believe that they were on their way, I know it would have been an unlawful arrest and I know how and why and yea on principle I should have stayed right where I was but I didnt I left to avoid an unnecessary and unlawful arrest. Whats your point?
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Re: Plants Stolen; Can Anyone Clear Up These Pics [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#685604 - 09/18/13 12:34 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I bet you will hide your plants next year LOL
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Re: Plants Stolen; Can Anyone Clear Up These Pics [Re: Magash]
#685674 - 09/19/13 12:59 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey im not so blind as to disregard the economic reality of the status quo and admittedly most of my patches were done the "conventional" way, what im saying is its bullshit and I think its more stupid to be hiding in the first place and thereby tacitly agreeing to their bullshit.
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. We have a moral responsibility to disobeys unjust laws. If your not part of the solution your part of the problem.
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Re: Plants Stolen; Can Anyone Clear Up These Pics [Re: PoloDown]
#685945 - 09/21/13 11:49 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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You can be part of the solution without openly planting federally illegal plants.
I know of people in my state fighting tooth and nail against the government to revoke some of the unjust laws against citizens and our rights to marijuana.
But are they planting in the middle of an open area? No, because they are smart.
Can you say cognitive dissonance? That statement doesn't even make sense. Do you have the Right to grow Cannabis or not?!? If their legislation is unjust/unlawful it doesn't need to be revoked, its of no force or effect to begin with.
"What luck for rulers that men do not think." You cut to the heart of their scam in one sentence without even knowing it. Fighting the government to revoke unjust laws against citizens and our rights. These people are trustees sworn to act in the public's best interest, the problem is that as citizens you have no rights only privileges, revocable at any time. What's the modern definition of citizen...persons subject to the laws of the state, its just the new word for subject.
Earlier in the thread I asked all the "US citizens"; What was your country founded as, a republic or a democracy? Which is it now, a republic or a democracy? Whats the difference?
IIRC it was founded as a constitutional republic(country;landmass) but was quickly hijacked and masked with a corporate democracy(nation;non-geographical). The birth certificate(all caps) name is not you its a legal fiction created by the gov, they are the only signatory party to that doc and when you identify yourself as that legal fiction you assume liability and are then subject to the corporate democracy. The thing they stamped your feet on at the hospital, the Live Birth Record is what shows that a man(male/female) with inherent/inalienable/human rights was born.
You say my way isn't a clever one but this isn't DPRK (where cannabis isn't even regulated ironically) and we(canada,us,etc) still operate under the rule of law and they cannot prove that I (the man) have any lawful obligation to obey their bullshit statutes. Yes, I run the risk that they're poorly trained thugs will destroy my property or worse but they will be creating a big debt owed to me and it gets real problematic for them when you start getting orders to pay in their private capacities and liening their bonds. The smart thing would have been to have better surveillance to id that fucking thief, like I said if it weren't for the rain i'd probably already know who it was.
Seriously, whats easier/better/smarter; spend hours trekking and likely trespassing to find a "safe" spot then transport all the supplies and plants, make several trips all season all while making sure to keep it concealed OR do it in a nice sunny spot like your backyard and sink a couple hundred into security like a cheap cctv and motion sensor light and maybe an alarm or cheap fence. We have no one to blame but ourselves for the mess we're in. How many people steal tobacco or other crops? This wouldn't even be an issue if we all stood up for our rights.
"Insanity is relative. It depends on who has who locked in what cage."
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Hey im not so blind as to disregard the economic reality of the status quo and admittedly most of my patches were done the "conventional" way
As for the pics, ive been playing with enhance.pho.to/ and www.fotor.com/features/one-tap-enhance.html ive been getting minor improvement but it'd be cool if someone who knows what they're doing could give it a shot. Im also happy to give any more info on my methods, most of the law stuff i know i learned from Dean Clifford
-------------------- Most people consider the course of events as natural and inevitable. They little know what radical change are possible through prayer. Every morning I offer my body, my mind and any ability that I posses, to be used by Thee, O infinite creator, in whatever way Thou dost choose to express Thyself through me. I know that all work is Thy work, and that no task is too difficult or too menial when offered to Thee in loving service.
Paramahansa Yogananda.
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