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Re: Cloning [Re: phychotron]
    #669112 - 05/04/13 05:58 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I know this thread is about clones but i just wanna second that those airpots, although pricey, are the shit!

Theyre supposed to be the equivalent of a container 3x the size since the roots dont circle. The 1L is supposed to be the same as a regular 3L.

And i believe it cuz i got some HUGE plants out of those tiny lil 1Ls...sorta bitch to water though i had to bottom water and soak em. But they work awesome.


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Re: Cloning [Re: phychotron]
    #669210 - 05/04/13 07:02 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Just thought id show some different plants in an aero cloner for those who havent seen before. These are bouganvillea, coleus, vicks, and croton.

These are my personal plants that I cloned using the Ez clone gel since it came with the machine, and I also used that Clear-Rez they sell too cuz it had a sample of that too. Prolly wouldnt buy that again though.




Takes about 1 week to see lil nodes pop up, 1-2 weeks to see decent roots forming, and by 2-3 weeks you have whats in these pictures.

All these plants were taken at the same time so you can see different plants respond differently to different conditions. Some root slower naturally and some just explode. Coleus will root readily with no hormones in shitty water in less than a week for example. Most herbs i see are taken out by 2 weeks if they use a gel, and 3 weeks if just straight water for some people i know that dont use gel for organic reasons.

For those wondering whether to use a hormone or a nutrient, do not use nutrients. Its harder on the plant until it has roots. Even then, when I feel like doing a super fast clone for some of my special plants ill use the gel with straight RO water in the machine for about a week, then do a water change and add a rooting product such as General Hydro's Rapid Start and run it for about another week or two. It contains willow bark extract which has been used for propagating for ages but you only use it after the roots have begun to form.

And you can see the menthol in this pic is going nuts, but after too long they can get hard to take out and you can damage the root system.

If you wanna be a real cheapo gangsta about it you could go down to home depot and use that shitty Green Light Rooting Stimulator. I personally dont like it but it contains IBA and ive seen it used in aero's with good results.

Personally I am with Psychotron on the Airpots. I have seen people transplant to 3 or 5 liter Air Pot, veg for another week or two and then flower. The combination of completely unrestricted roots going into a container that can not get root bound are really fucking nuts. The plants take off super fast and get really big really fast.

Dont bitch cuz its not herb, im in texas so fuck you suck a dick. Just trying to show what roots look like since someone showed em in rockwool.

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Re: Cloning [Re: SmokeSomeHash]
    #669214 - 05/04/13 07:19 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Oh yeah hey psychotron...how do you water those airpots. Because I noticed you have them in deep trays. I use em from time to time and I do the same because I flood it almost like an ebb and flow system and then drain it otherwise the water comes out the holes.

Then again I water from the bottom sometimes just cuz thats how I do it...but I know that will start a whole nother thread with people telling me im wrong.


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Re: Cloning [Re: PoloDown]
    #669272 - 05/05/13 06:18 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Better.

Anything bigger than 3L gets expensive. The 1L and 3L are cool...anything bigger and id go with smart pots or similar.


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Re: Cloning [Re: phychotron]
    #669356 - 05/05/13 10:59 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Ive flowered a monster plant in a 1L airpot. It was huge for such a tiny container but turned out to be male...One of the coolest plants i ever saw though.

But as far as the whole auto flood and drain even though its soil...i say thats the only way to use these pots.

They dry out so insanely fast but if you do a feeding every other water you pump more nutes into the same grow and if you know what youre doin can get fucking HUGE plants. You use a lot of nutes with very little soil and the containers are very, very sturdy and highly reusable.

I know the topic of bottom watering soil plants is debatable and some say its just not the way to do of salt build up but i highly disagree, especially with these pots.

Ane at what point is this thread hijacked?


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