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 lostinbq
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 so i got another problem (pic) 
#660083 - 02/23/13 10:12 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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so i have another problem, its a 4+week old plant, just started a new nutrient fron GH, got the trio, so after her first dose of 15ml grow, 5ml bloom/micro, i saw this, the bigger leafs that have yellow as well were the origonal leafe i saw like this, flushed next day and gave a half dose of the nutes. still seeing the problem.
soil is coco/perlite
ph after nutes and phdown is 5.6-5.8
ppm is 650
from seed
water every other day
temp day 77-82 nigh high 60's to low 70's
RH: 50%
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Edited by lostinbq (03/02/13 04:48 AM)
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 Hawksresurrection
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#660084 - 02/23/13 10:22 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well to begin it looks like they've been nutrient burned. And also looks like Mg deficiency, probably due to lock out.
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lostinbq
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 so just cos they say following the dir on the bottle of nutes and half it youll be fine......
just the main grow tip tho? no other leaves show sighns of being nute burn.
and in he doc's diganosis post the chart of the one thats for Mg none of that is applying to he plant? rest of the plant is fine, just the main growth tip is doing this.
i read and read for a few days now and one thing i read but cant rember what post i was but i was talking about the new leaves not having blades on the tip, like the new leaf is lets say 1 inch long, well 1/4 pf the tip has no blades, cant rember wich one it was like iron or something, i was going to flush again and water with out the micro nutes this time o see if anything happens, or switch back to the foxfarms nutes.
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Everyone are you ready for doom,
Because I've blackened the sun,
And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
flowers bloom when Im taken away
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lostinbq
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#660089 - 02/23/13 10:44 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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also the 2 bigger leaves with the yellow were the first grow tip leaves to be effected like in the pic, bu 4 days later.. they have gotten green over the 4 days..
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Everyone are you ready for doom,
Because I've blackened the sun,
And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
flowers bloom when Im taken away
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#660090 - 02/23/13 10:48 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Flush the shit out it and start out with 1/4 strength. I'm telling you what I think it is. If you don't want to take it into consideration that's fine.
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lostinbq
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trust me man, i hear ya, thats what i thought too, thats why i flushed and then gave 1/2 str yesterday, was going to flush again tommorrow when he lighs come back on, and not feed for tha day, then feed the nex watering. its just weird that nothing like this is in the doc's DX.
so TX for tomorrow is a flush x 3. sould i just go ahead and feed her the 1/4 str or wait he day?
took your advice lasttime and it helped bro, sall good in tha hood.
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Everyone are you ready for doom,
Because I've blackened the sun,
And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
flowers bloom when Im taken away
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#660094 - 02/23/13 11:28 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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And the pics look exactly like the pics in the thread you are talking about.
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lostinbq
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ive been reading so much, so manny posts, idk how i did not realize i read that, it even says starts from the top,glad ya pushed me off he peer, ive been going for days helping my mother in law straighten shit up b4 she leaves for work and all,.
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Everyone are you ready for doom,
Because I've blackened the sun,
And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
flowers bloom when Im taken away
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lostinbq
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#660101 - 02/23/13 11:51 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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also im still trying to get o the hydro store to get some stuff, cal mag has been added to the list.
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Everyone are you ready for doom,
Because I've blackened the sun,
And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
flowers bloom when Im taken away
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lostinbq
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#660158 - 02/24/13 11:45 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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so i flushed thismorning, and when i came back to feed her she was a bit droopy. gave her 2.5ml of grow/bloom/micro per 2 gal of water witch makes it 1/4th strength solution. well see how she is doing in the morning, come monday im going to the pro shop and getting a real digial ph meter and some cal mag, just hope she gets better or holds out till then.
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Everyone are you ready for doom,
Because I've blackened the sun,
And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
flowers bloom when Im taken away
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#660159 - 02/24/13 11:54 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just be aware that adding cal/mag will not fix this issue if your pH isn't corrected. That 5.8 is WAY too low for soil, so DO NOT add cal/mag until you bring the pH up.
It is VERY likely that there is more than enough calcium and magnesium in the soil already, and it will be utilized by the plant as soon as the pH is in the correct range. If you add the cal/mag prior to remedying the pH, you run the risk of burning your plant, or raising Ca/Mg levels to the point that you begin locking out other nutes.
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: 81renaissance]
#660160 - 02/24/13 11:56 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Whoa, my bad, I just realized you're not in soil. Just ignore me.
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BlueBerry_Swisher said:I want French fries. No, I want a penis French. Thank you. I'm so excited. I can not contain myself. Now I eat chocolate. It is so good. I'm trying to rub it all over myself. And then lick. Now I need a hot shower. The end.
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lostinbq
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: 81renaissance]
#660161 - 02/24/13 11:58 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Everyone are you ready for doom,
Because I've blackened the sun,
And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
flowers bloom when Im taken away
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lostinbq
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#660176 - 02/25/13 01:08 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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also shockingly, i just realized tomorrow i can go ge the stuff cos tomorrow is monday,,
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Everyone are you ready for doom,
Because I've blackened the sun,
And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
flowers bloom when Im taken away
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#660182 - 02/25/13 07:44 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Anyone else catch that OP is watering every other day?
Let your substrate dry out before watering, as the old saying goes
"If it ain't dry don't apply"
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lostinbq
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: bLEEp]
#660196 - 02/25/13 02:01 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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that would apply if i was in soil, im in a coco perlite mix, must be waterd every day/other day..
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Everyone are you ready for doom,
Because I've blackened the sun,
And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
flowers bloom when Im taken away
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lostinbq
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#660197 - 02/25/13 02:03 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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also, i made it to the pro shop today, got cal/mag and gh ph test kit, kinda busy right now to fool with anything but later i will post my findings later when i go to feed her/it.
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Everyone are you ready for doom,
Because I've blackened the sun,
And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
flowers bloom when Im taken away
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bLEEp
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#660198 - 02/25/13 02:33 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Right on, thought you were soil/less 
Good luck!!
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lostinbq
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: bLEEp]
#660200 - 02/25/13 02:37 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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sall good, just working with what i have.
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Everyone are you ready for doom,
Because I've blackened the sun,
And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
flowers bloom when Im taken away
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lostinbq
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#660201 - 02/25/13 02:41 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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 omfg, those ph est strips were faking me. strips said my tap water was 6.2, the new kit is telling me my waters ph is 7.5.......
tha fak...
ill hav to see wtf is going on after i add nutrients to some water and find out,
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Everyone are you ready for doom,
Because I've blackened the sun,
And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
flowers bloom when Im taken away
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#660204 - 02/25/13 03:01 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Did you get a digital meter? If not, just bite the bullet and do it man.
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lostinbq
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sadly no i could not afford he digital one, heir cheeper one$36 as sold out, and all they had was one for $80ish.... so i got the general hydroponics test kit with the drops for now, till int the best but at least i kno i need to bitch at the ph strip company and say hey, ur shit was off..... just stopping by now and then, trying to get my montherin law on the road so ill be back later wheni go to mix up some food,
but i did get some cal mag hawk, not bad $18, but i think my prob was ph... i mean really, those strips said my tap wasa 6.2, bu this one says 7+.. o i think when i adjusted the sol and the strip said 5.8 i migh have ment 6.8 in all realiy... got water getting up to room temp now, so like i said later ill post what i mix in,
o,, btw,,,, how much calmag should i use?
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Everyone are you ready for doom,
Because I've blackened the sun,
And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
flowers bloom when Im taken away
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Phallus
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#660233 - 02/25/13 08:06 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alright big boss, this is everything you will need to know as far as this last post and your system of growing.
A couple things need to be addressed, and it is how you are handling things. At this point my suggestion is you stop adding nutes, and only add the cal-mag, wait a day or two and see how the plant reacts.
1) Adding nutes, plus the addition of cal mag is going to make it very difficult to decipher this issue completely, because you can never be sure with plants and you have to diagnose. Many symptoms for issues with plants are very similar. Yes you could be feeling the extent of a lockout or it could just be Mg deficient, but given your current system you need cal-mag.
2) Next, make sure that cal mag is appropriated for your style of grow. some cal mag solutions can only be used in hydroponics systems, and some can only be used for soil and what not; (id ask the guy at the store).
For future reference, cal-mag is really essential for plants. You may read to dial down your nutes to some amount (depending on what the plant can handle and what stage it is in) AND THIS IS TRUE BUT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT CAL MAG IS ESSENTIAL AT FULL AMOUNT. The nutes people are usually referring to are the three bottles of GH mixture your working with. For you I read that you had your nutes coming in at 1/4(X); x= recommended amount (on bottle usually or website)...This is true, but you have to realize cal mag needs to be in there in full (i usually make smaller adjustments depending on the # of plants that are being nuted), then you add in the rest of your dialed down nutes (GH trio). This can be a little confusing, but you will realize this over time through trial and error, so hopefully we can just save you on the number of trials.
Also, next time you take a pic (which it is a good one), try taking one of the full system, or a few more shots, that way diagnosing is not such a guess for us. Give us something to work with. I diagnose plant problems all day and have numerous experiments running in our greenhouse at the university, and these are the factors I consider important and their priority, yet still I could always be wrong simply due to the fact that plants elicit many similar symptoms and there are always so many factors and variables to consider both tangible and intangible.
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Phallus
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: Phallus]
#660234 - 02/25/13 08:10 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh Shoot, yes you have rhino fingers most likely from over watering... (I think the continous addition of nutes did this, plus the way he waters. You have yet to mention how you even feed these plants, which is quite essential info. I've worked with the basic ph strip, you just need to be vigilant and be sure even if it is a pain in the ass, and especially if you have to care to other needs like family issues. Also, make sure you always stir your nutes in nicely wait like 10 minutes then ph the water with that vial and drop ph kit you got there.
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lostinbq
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: Phallus]
#660295 - 02/26/13 01:01 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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hi phallus,
i just have to ask, have you read the posts?
do u know what i am growing in?
i hear what you are saying, and i only gave her a shot of calmag last night. but i do not think u know about how i am growing.
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Everyone are you ready for doom,
Because I've blackened the sun,
And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
flowers bloom when Im taken away
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Phallus
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#660315 - 02/26/13 05:30 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have the read the posts and I don't understand what your system is, hence
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take a pic (which it is a good one), try taking one of the full system, or a few more shots, that way diagnosing is not such a guess for us. Give us something to work with.
You said coir and perlite, but haven't elaborated further. Are coir and perlite mixed like a soil in a pot that you water through and let it drain out the bottom or I don't have a clue, it's information that should be shared if you want more assistance.
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lostinbq
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: Phallus]
#660344 - 02/26/13 09:43 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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the system is growing in coco w/ perlite.
pic was taken of the problem, how could more help? i am sure we know what a bucket with holes in it look like.
and the last part i think answered the first part of your post?
not trying to be a dick man but you have to see it from my perspective, i can see you do not kno about growing in coco(or you may idk) but like i said look at i from my angle. i posted the info, listend, made adjust according to you're guys thoughts, bu i can be held accountable if you do not read certin cult threads deadacated to a way of growing. i was not around for 2 years,, came back and saw i could use coco, well shit i had a ton of it, so i typed coco in the search engine, thats my expert "TC" advice i take, the consensus on the thousands of posts i will read all over a stupid word such as coco or ph. my plans not doing so hot so i asked for some help cos i did not see anything like this in the hundreds of posts from here/grasscity/ic and more. i do feel i have gave more than enough info, i think i even found out what the problem was (those faulty ph test strips) giving me a reading of 6.0 when it was more like 7.6-8. i did what you said and just dosed her with calmag ph'ed water. she is looking better and i think she is ready for some new food now cos of the starving the past 3ish days. lower leafs are showing N def wih yellowing of the bottommost leafs(1 1/2) witch is turning yellow, cant be a overdose or lock out cos i flushed her clean(130 ppm runoff same as tap here) only gave her the calmag.
hey man...
hugs not slugs bro.
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Everyone are you ready for doom,
Because I've blackened the sun,
And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
flowers bloom when Im taken away
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#660347 - 02/26/13 10:08 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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No slugs You're still assuming that everyone can figure out your setup from "coir and perlite," apparently I made an accurate assumption but I've no way to know without clarification. I wanted images of your potting system because your reservoir environment is a significant variable in how your plant is treated and responding. I still don't really understand, but if she's looking better then enjoy. Godspeed. Stay the hell away from strips, the GH vial and drops isn't bad at all. I got a digital pen on amazon for like $8, I've only praise for it
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: Phallus]
#660367 - 02/27/13 02:16 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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We figured it out 
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lostinbq
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yes and no i guess.
i will get a pic later of it.
been giving the cal mag 1/2 str with food and full str w/o food alternating waterings every other day.
the rest of her is going great, just that dam top...
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Everyone are you ready for doom,
Because I've blackened the sun,
And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
flowers bloom when Im taken away
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lostinbq
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#660803 - 03/02/13 04:51 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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ok so i put the pic in the first post, so you could see the diffrence in growth or what not, but ""EVERYTHING"" with yellow came from that growth tip in the first pic. hope this will help a bit cos its been like a week.
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Everyone are you ready for doom,
Because I've blackened the sun,
And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
flowers bloom when Im taken away
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#660892 - 03/02/13 09:13 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wow wtf? 
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lostinbq
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thats what im trying to figure out lol bud..
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Everyone are you ready for doom,
Because I've blackened the sun,
And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
flowers bloom when Im taken away
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lostinbq
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#660967 - 03/03/13 02:27 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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maybe a zinc problem?
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Everyone are you ready for doom,
Because I've blackened the sun,
And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
flowers bloom when Im taken away
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Phallus
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#660990 - 03/03/13 05:11 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm still having trouble understanding your procedure and can't find anything searching "coir and perlite." I've run hydroponic reservoirs, drip and aero, and have a decent understanding of plant needs. Why are you watering and changing your nutes every other day? Again, I'd like to see how your plant is receiving its food.
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been giving the cal mag 1/2 str with food and full str w/o food alternating waterings every other day.
You describe your procedure like this constantly. Still without elaborating:
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im in a coco perlite mix, must be waterd every day/other day..
So you have a pot mixed 50/50 coir/perlite with holes in the bottom in a draining tub? Your pot is perlite in the bottom half and coir in the top, vice versa, or 70/20? You have to water it every day because?
I want to be helpful in diagnosing your situation, but I need further elaboration. I'll look back in your other thread to see if you've already done so...
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: Phallus]
#661813 - 03/11/13 04:14 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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It looks like Iron deficiency to me. Micro nutrient deficiencies show at the top of the plant first, and if your ph is too low (I think i read 5.8?) then the plant is less able to access iron. Even if you add Iron to the soil it wont take it up until you correct the ph. Thats just what i think..
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: Zombi3]
#661815 - 03/11/13 04:28 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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This is NOT a soil grow people. It's a soil less. Please read the posts before making comments. We've been over this part multiple times in this thread already.
So did you ever get a handle on what you're pH actually is?
Did you ever see this with the other nutrient lines you've used? It seems to have shown up as soon as you started this new one. It is possible you have a bad batch of nutes and they don't contain everything you need.
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Coco/perlite is a soilless mix i get that, but ph plays a roll in availability of iron regardless of medium.
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: Zombi3]
#661817 - 03/11/13 04:33 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Soil less requires a lower pH, much like hydro. Iron would still be available. In fact when treating Iron deficiency you lower the pH to below 6.5 because alkaline soils tend to make Iron unavailable.
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lostinbq
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yea im sill round, been busy.
she/it is doing much better, ill get a pic tomorrow, main growth tip is starting to return to normal, was giving the micro/grow/bloom to her but after a lot of reading i have started the lucas regimen friday, witch is 6/9 or the head's regminen idk what to call it, and it perked up so much now i am doing it tha way, cos from what i read the micro has enough N to suppor the plants needs and what not. i also and still adding he calmag but i have cut it back to 2-3ml/gal.
i also read more recent post on this method and have found that ph between 5.8-6.0 hav been working better for nute uptake.
also, i tested something, bought RO water vs my tap water in terms of ppm's, my tap water after the nutes and a ph'down ppm's are at 900+, the RO water afer nutes and a ph"up ppm's are 734.
here are some pics from thursday i think b4 she started to perk back up.
full shot no lst
after lst
the bad spots
and some sex-bits for perverts to help identify lol.
every node has one and not multiple, no hairs, makin me nervous.
the other plant i had was male, but i did use i for practice cloning and wow, i sucked last time i grew using the pucks and a dome w/ expensive rooting gel, this time just a $5 rooting powder from lowes, a party cup, some coco, and that was it, made the cutting coverd in powder and stuck into the coco under a 18w cfl 27k 1 foot away and i had 1" roots by the 10th day, all 3 i made. idk jus a achevement for myself too see how easy cloneing coulod be.
idk im ramblin bu ill get a pic tomorrow of how she is picking up.
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#661855 - 03/11/13 09:54 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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also,
im thinking she/it needs a haircut?
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#661863 - 03/11/13 11:13 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't see anything definitive sex wise yet. I'm kinda bummed to hear that you're having this much trouble and you don't even know if it's a female.
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lostinbq
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well i made 2 clones of her on the 3rd, last 3 clones i made ook 7-10 days depending on how you count it(i start a day after 24hrs, not that same day)to show roots, so i will be taking the clones and puting one under the hps and he other into veg untill i know whats what. gona be putting my flower box back together here tomorrow or the next day so i can get this going, had 3 seeds pop their heads up today, hats a + aswell. had one pop 4 days ago bu he is kinda muntant like the toxic avenger MUAHAHAAH!! no but serious he is retarded.
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#662401 - 03/15/13 06:00 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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so here we are,
so i was talking to someone who grew in coir aswell and he was saying he had better luck using lucas formula, the 6ml micro and 9ml bloom w/calmag instead of using it per the label. things havent changed much, havent gotten worse, the grow tips are still having trouble tho on the top 3-4 nodes.
ph 5.8
ppm 600-750in 700-800runoff
6ml micro(5-0-1) 9mlbloom(0-5-4) and calmag+
watering every other day W/ food(geting ready to water every day she is getting hungrier)
so here is pics from today, i let her off the lst so she is not right yet.
 
   
and the clones i made, the 2 in the back right were made on the 3rd, rest were made on tuesday/wed.
and my seeds i made if this is a male(i dont think it will be a male)
next thing i can try is switch back to the Foxfarms nutes i have and see if it gets any worse...
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#662529 - 03/16/13 03:25 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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so, this formula seems to be working, the 6ml micro 9ml bloom 2-3ml calmag+, today the top is getting green again and the overall yellowing seems to be going away now.
she/it needs a feeding today again so ill post a pic on monday the next time i feed her again,
might have been the misfeeding i was doing, so i have also changed her feed now feom feed/water/feed/ect to just feed/feed/feed every other day untill she/it showes me it wants it more.
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#662562 - 03/16/13 07:58 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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also one of the clones i made on the 3rd is showing growth today, YAY/....
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#664901 - 04/04/13 09:37 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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hay hawk,
have been busy but i did figure out what was wrong,
it was the GH nutes, i did have too get rid of the big one tho,sad, but i found out through the clones, i took 2 of them and feed the GH w/ just grow and micro, and 2 with micro/bloom 6/9, and 2 with the old FF nutes ihave all got 3ml of calmag+ aswell andwell lets say theones that did not get the GH nutes were fantastic, so i switched them all to the ff and the other clones came back around from the abuse.
ill geta pic whenever(dont hold ur breath youll pass out lol) sucks i wasted $40 on nutes i wont use now, maybe ill try them ina bubble bucket and see if it was just themin coco tho,
thanks for trying to help a lost cause kinda.
ooooooo yea, those seedlings are kicking ass btw, already starting to show sexkinda,
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I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
flowers bloom when Im taken away
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Re: so i got another problem (pic) [Re: lostinbq]
#664934 - 04/04/13 02:23 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cheers 
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