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 GreenHorns
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 Lemon to lower PH? 
#657446 - 02/02/13 08:30 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Did this in an extraction where I needed to lower PH and made me wonder if there's any serious drawbacks to using lemon or vinegar to raise and lower PH of your water supply for cannabis plants.
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 Hawksresurrection
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 Re: Lemon to lower PH? [Re: GreenHorns]
#657454 - 02/02/13 08:52 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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It can be used. But I much prefer just a standard pH up and down solution.
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GreenHorns
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Wonder if there's a nutritional benefit from the fruit itself. If it can work right I think I'll try it on a plant and see how she likes it just for funsies.
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Re: Lemon to lower PH? [Re: GreenHorns]
#657489 - 02/03/13 10:44 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Its been done. I mean there's some sugar in it. But not enough to make any difference. I feel like it doesn't hold the pH in place like a good solution should
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NameInUse
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PH down is good stuff. I have only used GH but it is very easy to use; it seriously takes me maybe .3 ml per gallon to be where I want. I can't imagine lemon juice could be more effective, even cost wise. I only wish PH up was that good.
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GreenHorns
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Re: Lemon to lower PH? [Re: NameInUse]
#657500 - 02/03/13 12:35 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah I have my general hydro set and its effective which is great just thinking about what if's. maybe the extra sugar is good during flowering. I live by lemon groves so fresh lemons shouldn't be hard to stock up on and juice for a rotation this spring.
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Re: Lemon to lower PH? [Re: GreenHorns]
#657504 - 02/03/13 12:49 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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I highly doubt it'd be worth the time, dude.
Just being honest.
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GreenHorns
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Re: Lemon to lower PH? [Re: Stoneth]
#657510 - 02/03/13 01:03 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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I agree and it might be abandoned halfway through unless I enjoy the involvement to compensate which is very possible.
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Re: Lemon to lower PH? [Re: GreenHorns]
#657707 - 02/05/13 10:28 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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ive used lemon juice and vinegar to lower ph and bicarb of soda to increase with no effect to my plants in the sligtest, at the end of the day its just citric acid and acetic acid
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Re: Lemon to lower PH? [Re: sojahippy]
#657749 - 02/05/13 04:49 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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And what was your benefit versus PH up and down?
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GreenHorns
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Re: Lemon to lower PH? [Re: NameInUse]
#657754 - 02/05/13 05:34 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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none what so ever. just more involvment with my plants. and mixing it up a little.
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Re: Lemon to lower PH? [Re: GreenHorns]
#657784 - 02/06/13 03:42 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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It does work, I have done it with lemon concentrate.
lemon juice has ph of 2.2, and it usually takes a bit for it to fully drop it but if you have actual solution, which is really cheap.. why not use it
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Re: Lemon to lower PH? [Re: boneynerd]
#657785 - 02/06/13 03:43 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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And too much baking soda can cause issues in the long run.
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GreenHorns
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Cool thanks for the info that's good to know guys. Been reading up on teas and shit. Just getting curious about trying new things out. Plus there's nothing I love more than smoking a joint in my garden. All over this tediousness.
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GreenHorns
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Quote:
hawksapprentice said:
And too much baking soda can cause issues in the long run.
What kind of issues should I be looking into? Is that bicarbonate or base in general I should be careful with?
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NameInUse
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Re: Lemon to lower PH? [Re: GreenHorns]
#657809 - 02/06/13 12:28 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's SODIUM bicarbonate. You're adding salts and raising your PPMs.
Edit: Calcium carbonate would be better.
Edited by NameInUse (02/06/13 12:34 PM)
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Re: Lemon to lower PH? [Re: NameInUse]
#657821 - 02/06/13 01:38 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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But then you're still adding in a bunch of calcium and overdosing on calcium. That's why you whoudl just the standard pH up and downs.....
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GreenHorns
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Ill check into various additives since I really only know about lemon to accurately lower PH on a single extraction. Maybe a dedicated organic bed outside this spring with a schedule planned out.
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