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 GreenShaman
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 Should you always water with distilled? 
#625061 - 05/29/12 02:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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How necessary is distilled water? What are the pros and cons of well/city water?
I'm guessing city water (often containing fluoride) is bad... but what about well water?
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 Hawksresurrection
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 Re: Should you always water with distilled? [Re: GreenShaman]
#625066 - 05/29/12 02:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well water can contain very high amount of minerals. Which can cause a lot of problems. If you are on a well I would have your water analysed, then go from there.
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Re: Should you always water with distilled? [Re: GreenShaman]
#625067 - 05/29/12 02:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ive read that rainwater is best
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Should you always water with distilled? [Re: Maestro]
#625073 - 05/29/12 02:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Distilled/RO water would be the way to go. I would not use rain water, you would have to collect and store it and then treat it since your storing it. Sounds like a huge pain in the ass.
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GreenShaman
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Re: Should you always water with distilled? [Re: Maestro]
#625318 - 05/31/12 10:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Maestro said:
Ive read that rainwater is best
i don't believe you that sounds like bad advice to me
 not cool?
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kyuzo
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Re: Should you always water with distilled? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#625370 - 05/31/12 06:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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hawksapprentice said:
Distilled/RO water would be the way to go. I would not use rain water, you would have to collect and store it and then treat it since your storing it. Sounds like a huge pain in the ass.
I honestly think many people needlessly go the r/o route, and that they would do fine using their municipal water (of course well water is another question). In fact, you can grow many carnivores plants, that are extremely sensitive to mineral content, with most city water with no issue (50ppm or below)
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kyuzo
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Re: Should you always water with distilled? [Re: GreenShaman]
#625371 - 05/31/12 06:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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GreenShaman said:
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Maestro said:
Ive read that rainwater is best
i don't believe you that sounds like bad advice to me
not cool?
when I first started collecting nepenthes and pleurothids (sp) I tried the rainwater route, and it was a complete PITA for the very reasons cited by hawk. But worst of all, if you're in a cold climate you're going to need to move your collection system underground, or in doors.
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kyuzo
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Re: Should you always water with distilled? [Re: kyuzo]
#625372 - 05/31/12 06:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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PS rainwater is actually great, it's just the collecting and storing that suck
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Should you always water with distilled? [Re: kyuzo]
#625376 - 05/31/12 06:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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kyuzo said:
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hawksapprentice said:
Distilled/RO water would be the way to go. I would not use rain water, you would have to collect and store it and then treat it since your storing it. Sounds like a huge pain in the ass.
I honestly think many people needlessly go the r/o route, and that they would do fine using their municipal water (of course well water is another question). In fact, you can grow many carnivores plants, that are extremely sensitive to mineral content, with most city water with no issue (50ppm or below)
I completely agree. I use my tap water exclusively. But mine has 0 ppm.
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kyuzo
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Re: Should you always water with distilled? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#625380 - 05/31/12 06:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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hawksapprentice said:
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kyuzo said:
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hawksapprentice said:
Distilled/RO water would be the way to go. I would not use rain water, you would have to collect and store it and then treat it since your storing it. Sounds like a huge pain in the ass.
I honestly think many people needlessly go the r/o route, and that they would do fine using their municipal water (of course well water is another question). In fact, you can grow many carnivores plants, that are extremely sensitive to mineral content, with most city water with no issue (50ppm or below)
I completely agree. I use my tap water exclusively. But mine has 0 ppm.
lol, my well water measures between 350-400.
asshole
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Should you always water with distilled? [Re: kyuzo]
#625383 - 05/31/12 06:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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And that's why you don't use well water.
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kyuzo
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Re: Should you always water with distilled? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#625384 - 05/31/12 06:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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hawksapprentice said:
And that's why you don't use well water.
you would be surprised. Some people get lucky and will have great well water. I'm just not one of them.
But testing is cheap and available through your local extension office.
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Re: Should you always water with distilled? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#625471 - 06/01/12 06:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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hawksapprentice said:
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kyuzo said:
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hawksapprentice said:
Distilled/RO water would be the way to go. I would not use rain water, you would have to collect and store it and then treat it since your storing it. Sounds like a huge pain in the ass.
I honestly think many people needlessly go the r/o route, and that they would do fine using their municipal water (of course well water is another question). In fact, you can grow many carnivores plants, that are extremely sensitive to mineral content, with most city water with no issue (50ppm or below)
I completely agree. I use my tap water exclusively. But mine has 0 ppm.
0 ppm tap water?!? 
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A water question [Re: kyuzo]
#653546 - 01/03/13 03:24 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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My tap water is very alkaline as I live in London. Making distilled water is a hassle and bottles of it are difficult to come by and quite expensive.
I anticipate pH rising through the grow and nutrients being locked out if I just use ordinary tap water. The only solution I can think of is monitoring soil pH closely and flushing with distilled water when pH gets too high. I suppose I'm going to have to get access to distilled water somehow and only use it for flushing. Sound about right?
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Re: A water question [Re: Ali Bongo]
#653554 - 01/03/13 07:39 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Test your city/well water. My old grow I used well water which, IMO, was better than using RO precisely becauseof the mineral content. I now use rain water but already had a collection/storage system set up. After growing outdoors for a decade, it would be hard to convince me that rain water isn't a safe way to go  Now, if you live in Phoenix or San Francisco or something I'd look into filtration
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: A water question [Re: Ali Bongo]
#653583 - 01/03/13 12:59 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ali Bongo said:
My tap water is very alkaline as I live in London. Making distilled water is a hassle and bottles of it are difficult to come by and quite expensive.
I anticipate pH rising through the grow and nutrients being locked out if I just use ordinary tap water. The only solution I can think of is monitoring soil pH closely and flushing with distilled water when pH gets too high. I suppose I'm going to have to get access to distilled water somehow and only use it for flushing. Sound about right?
If your tap water is Alkaline, just adjust it. Not that hard with some pH down.
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GBurger717
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Dont mean to hijack this thread and I hope this is not a stupid question but does distilled water have a perfect PH level? What do you all think
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Re: A water question [Re: GBurger717]
#653694 - 01/04/13 04:04 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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It comes with a pretty standard pH of 7. But after sitting it may not stay that way due to exposure to co2 in the atmosphere and a bunch of complex reactions and what not. Also what you add to it is going to change it's pH as well.
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GBurger717
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thanks for the responce. i did not know that.
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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty - Jefferson
The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first. - Jefferson
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Re: A water question [Re: GBurger717]
#654344 - 01/08/13 01:32 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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tap water is fine. I always let it stand for 24 hours to get rid of Chlorine.
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