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 TriGeoLight
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 Re: Do these plants look healthy  [Re: 81renaissance]
#649124 - 12/02/12 06:47 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm rather new to growing but plants do great with a 18/6 cycle and using 24/0 is a waste of light since 18/6 keeps them from flowering any ways. I think you should switch back to a 18/6 and maybe try flushing your plant and see if that helps any and give them more water. If your watering them more but they keep staying droopy it has to be a nutrients issue and I would try flushing a couple of times and see if it helps.
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 Hawksresurrection
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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: TriGeoLight]
#649131 - 12/02/12 07:01 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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I didn't even think about asking if it had drainage holes, I always just assume they're there.
He was supposed to start watering at least a gallon of water per plant.
I disagree with the thought that if you water until you have run-off as way to tell if your watering adequately. If you have let them get really dry, a lot of the first amounts of water can seep right down the side and be construed as drainage. Not trying to start an argument, just something I've seen someone do.
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TriGeoLight
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hawksapprentice said:
I didn't even think about asking if it had drainage holes, I always just assume they're there.
He was supposed to start watering at least a gallon of water per plant.
I disagree with the thought that if you water until you have run-off as way to tell if your watering adequately. If you have let them get really dry, a lot of the first amounts of water can seep right down the side and be construed as drainage. Not trying to start an argument, just something I've seen someone do.
That does happen a lot to people.
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81renaissance
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hawksapprentice said:
I disagree with the thought that if you water until you have run-off as way to tell if your watering adequately. If you have let them get really dry, a lot of the first amounts of water can seep right down the side and be construed as drainage. Not trying to start an argument, just something I've seen someone do.
Good thought actually. Not an argument starter at all, just two growers trying to help out a new guy!
It may not be helpful to say "water until there's run-off" unless you've done it enough to know the difference between the initial moisture passing through a well-aerated soil, and actual run-off. 
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81renaissance
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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: TriGeoLight]
#649153 - 12/02/12 09:14 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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TriGeoLight said:
... using 24/0 is a waste of light since 18/6 keeps them from flowering any ways.
Weeeeeelllllll...24/0 may seem like a waste of light until you look at it from the perspective of the actual plant growth process: obviously, light is necessary for photosynthesis to occur, and that process directly causes the uptake of nutrients and growth of the plant. In very basic terms, a 24 hour light cycle allows 24 hours of photosynthesis, while an 18/6 cycle stops photosynthesis for 1/3 of the time in veg. The only reason to go 18/6 vs. 24 is if you have a growing philosophy that supposes that a switch from 24/0 to 12/12 causes undue stress on the plant, OR if you have a highly sensitive plant that would be prone to herm in the face of a dramatic lighting change. Otherwise, you get more bang for your buck in terms of growth during veg, by using a 24/0 cycle.
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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: 81renaissance]
#649156 - 12/02/12 09:17 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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81renaissance said:
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hawksapprentice said:
I disagree with the thought that if you water until you have run-off as way to tell if your watering adequately. If you have let them get really dry, a lot of the first amounts of water can seep right down the side and be construed as drainage. Not trying to start an argument, just something I've seen someone do.
Good thought actually. Not an argument starter at all, just two growers trying to help out a new guy!
It may not be helpful to say "water until there's run-off" unless you've done it enough to know the difference between the initial moisture passing through a well-aerated soil, and actual run-off.
I would water so theres a bit of run off but not a lot unless i was trying to flush my plant. If your to lazy to measure I would say water it enough to get run off but not enough that it puddles on the surface of the soil. You want the plant and soil to absorb the nutrients and water not flush out of the drainage at the bottom or drown your plant.
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redman2012
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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: TriGeoLight]
#649178 - 12/02/12 11:13 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sorry guys had a really long work day today and just now got a chance to get back on here to check the post, appreciate all the help coming from you guys, but to answer the few question you have asked, yes there are drainage holes, purchased the pots that way, four holes going around the pot near the bottom and a center hole dead center underneath. To check the soil I would push my finger about second knuckle deep and to be even more thorough I would push my pinky into the drainage holes to make sure water was just sitting at the bottom and the plants were watered well. It was a week ago today, that I started this post and watered them very well as Hawk had said. Today after I posted this and hawk said to maybe flush them out I checked before watering and it was very well dry both top and bottom. I watered until in ran out the drainage holes, not so much as a steady stream but enough to cause a puddle the size of maybe a CD. Also cancelled any ideas of flowering in hopes, as hawk said, to make sure the plants are very healthy and ready for it, so they are still on a 24/0. Think i covered everything, if I didn't please let me know so I can fill you guys in. Thank you all again.
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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: redman2012]
#649193 - 12/03/12 02:33 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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In regards to your CD sized puddle.
I will add water very slowly, if I pour it in too fast it will go around the dirt and out the bottom, like Hawk was saying. So I go from pot to pot adding about a quart each so the water has time to soak into the pot before I add another quart or so. I do this until I get standing water in my saucer and adding more water only increases the standing water at the bottom. Don't leave them in the standing water, the roots should only stay submerged like that for about 20 minutes. It's not a huge thing for me, just generally don't let the saucers be full of water all the time.
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