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Registered: 06/25/08 Posts: 12,819 Last seen: 4 months, 19 days
Re: Do you think any of the 3 states will vote for the legalization of marijuana? [Re: DungenessDank] #643331 - 11/03/12 06:05 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)
While you're stating that laws gives us freedoms and can also take away certain freedoms, Dank is arguing that laws are dead until we as people live by them or certain institutions enforce or use propaganda in order to manipulate how people act and then behave. I'm in with what dank.
Quote: hawksapprentice said: And even in the villages there are rules/laws. Human civilization does not exist without it.
Quote: DungenessDank said: lul, could you think of any more of an unoriginal response? Democrat or Republican, Liberal or Conservative, everyone believes the same bullshit when you question their acceptance of their sacred constructs.
Here Dank is speaking about your "sacred constructs", but I think a clearer way to say it is you are deeply conditioned by our western culture by trying to argue that laws themselves have power over human choices and that without those laws, humans are reduced to savages by way of anarchy. It's proven by you saying "look at history"!
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Quote: Gaskelort said: Well in some place, laws are supported by fear, so in a way it can be true, but yeah ... its quite exagerated imo
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It may have been said a bit trollish, but there is truth in what he said. You've agreed with that by saying:
Quote: Gaskelort said: Well as you said Hawk, big societies can't really exist without laws, but of course, that doesn't mean all laws are necessary.
People are going to follows only if they agree with it and feel it is JUST or:
Quote: DungenessDank said: free of the threat of getting their heads beaten in by the cops
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The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking. There are no dues or fees for A.A. membership; we are self-supporting through our own contributions. A.A. is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organization or institution; does not wish to engage in any controversy; neither endorses nor opposes any causes. Our primary purpose is to stay sober and help other alcoholics to achieve sobriety.
Registered: 06/25/08 Posts: 12,819 Last seen: 4 months, 19 days
Re: Do you think any of the 3 states will vote for the legalization of marijuana? [Re: Hawksresurrection] #643341 - 11/03/12 06:18 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)
Quote: hawksapprentice said: But what I say IS the truth of it. Of course there are laws that are taking away our freedom, and as a society we must come together and make decisions as to whether or not the end justify the means on said laws.
I disagree with a number of of laws and find them unjust, so I take a stance and rally against those specific laws that I feel do harm. Instead of just saying fuck all laws.
You totally missed the point of what I was saying. Maybe I suck at explaining so I'll just ask a question: How do marijuana laws take away your freedoms of buying, using, selling without considering the consequences of getting caught? Aren't you free to do those things, or do you submit to such laws?
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The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking. There are no dues or fees for A.A. membership; we are self-supporting through our own contributions. A.A. is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organization or institution; does not wish to engage in any controversy; neither endorses nor opposes any causes. Our primary purpose is to stay sober and help other alcoholics to achieve sobriety.
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