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Thebooedocksaint said:
Also for clarification, not only is it only 90 bucks for people that are really poor; there is also a threshold of poor-ness where you don't get fined. You're considered exempt from the mandate I suppose.

Though I don't know a great deal about what the mandate says as of this moment because I've been without cable and internet for about a year now I will say this. The average overhead cost of a corporate insurance company was about 30ish percent, where the overhead for public is more in the range of 1%. And as far as being insured is concern I feel a lot better knowing that 99% of the money I give is used for claims rather than 70%.

My family has been plagued by medical debt since I was in grade school, and right when I thought it was getting better and they were getting caught up my dads premiums skyrockets and he had to just drop insurance for out family. And then the next year not only does my mother have cancer come back, but my father found out he had cancer too. This isn't even going to be a long winded "this is why it's good" kind of personal story. But shit like that really happens, it happened to my family, so realize that at the very least something had to be done. With the ages us Americans reach, not-stepping-infront-of-a-bus-willing, we will probably all eventually get some form of cancer or at the very least some kind of serious health problem.


I'm still without insurance to this day, and I'm pretty sure my income is below the threshold to be required to. So I will be without it for some time still I am sure. I'm just lucky I am a pretty healthy person it seems.

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The problem is that the bill has only very limited cost control measures written into it, and their over all effectiveness is really debatable at this point (like the assumptions concerning preventive care or decline in er usage).  SO there isn't going to be anything preventing your families deductible from rising (this has been the case in mass in most every category, except the individual market), their copay increasing, or from even getting a more stripped down version of coverage (two other trends that have been common is mass since reform was initiated) under their current plan

not to mention this puts more stress on systemic issues like  the lack of primary care providers

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And in the case of any of those being an issue either it can get modified, or repealed.