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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: still beLIEve] * 1
    #623296 - 05/17/12 09:13 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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he was walking around with a gun, he killed an unarmed teenager.  The kid was doing wrong but for walking with his hood up, and nothing else

he deserves to sit in a prison cell




Did you see the pictures of Zimmerman? He had a broken nose and the back of his head was smashed up pretty bad




He followed a teenager for no apparent reason.
He was twice the weight of the teenager.
He had like 10 years on the kid.
He killed the unarmed teenager.

End of story dude. Guy is fucking scum.




dont forget the cops were en route and the police dispatcher told zimmerman NOT TO FOLLOW MARTIN

what does he do???? follows him and kills him. talk about a big time fuck up.

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: still beLIEve] * 1
    #623297 - 05/17/12 09:14 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Also, this

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he prob smashed his face and skull against the ground after he killed the kid...

(i know if i killed someone i would make it look like it was a struggle... oldest trick in the book)








I guess that's very possible.

This just doesnt seem to be the case that everyone in the media wants it to be.


Pilze- the exact opposite. I am making a judgment call today after a lot of the evidence has had time to be analyzed. The evidence was just released in the past week. And after reviewing the evidence, I feel like he did what he needed to do to protect himself.

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Pilze] * 1
    #623298 - 05/17/12 09:15 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Pilze said:
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still beLIEve said:
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Picklez said:
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PositiveOutlook said:
he was walking around with a gun, he killed an unarmed teenager.  The kid was doing wrong but for walking with his hood up, and nothing else

he deserves to sit in a prison cell




Did you see the pictures of Zimmerman? He had a broken nose and the back of his head was smashed up pretty bad




He followed a teenager for no apparent reason.
He was twice the weight of the teenager.
He had like 10 years on the kid.
He killed the unarmed teenager.

End of story dude. Guy is fucking scum.




dont forget the cops were en route and the police dispatcher told zimmerman NOT TO FOLLOW MARTIN

what does he do???? follows him and kills him. talk about a big time fuck up.





Is that what he said? I would like for you to find something in real evidence that says that

Because the 9-1-1 tape, does NOT say that.

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez] * 2
    #623299 - 05/17/12 09:18 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

regardless of the rocks yet unturned, the facts are as i said above

*followed a kid who was doing nothing wrong
*cops said he didnt need to follow, he followed.
*was twice the size and 10 years older (point im trying to make with this was he could have easily taken care of the situation WITHOUT a gun)
*killed unarmed teenager

no matter what evidence gets found at this point, its going to be real hard to overturn those facts.

second degree murder is what im predicting.


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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez] * 1
    #623300 - 05/17/12 09:20 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

"I feel like he did what he needed to do to protect himself."

are you serious??? the kid didnt have a weapon. at all. how did he need to protect himself?!?!

and about the 911 tape, this is VERY COMMON KNOWLEDGE so now i just know youre trolling... ill still find the sound clip for you though...

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: still beLIEve] * 1
    #623301 - 05/17/12 09:21 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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regardless of the rocks yet unturned, the facts are as i said above

*followed a kid who was doing nothing wrong
*cops said he didnt need to follow, he followed.
*was twice the size and 10 years older (point im trying to make with this was he could have easily taken care of the situation WITHOUT a gun)
*killed unarmed teenager

no matter what evidence gets found at this point, its going to be real hard to overturn those facts.

second degree murder is what im predicting.




I cant argue with anything you said.

All true. Although I think it's really going to come down to proving who started the attack.

If he was just following him, while on the phone with the police, and Martin knew he had drugs or something on him and he attacked Zimmerman in hopes of getting away. Then I have to back Zimmerman.

And Martin wasnt no small kid. He was over 6 foot and the same size as most adult males. So the age/ weight argument is irrelevant imo. But I do see your points and agree it's going to come down to the court trial

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez] * 1
    #623302 - 05/17/12 09:21 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Is that what he said? I would like for you to find something in real evidence that says that

Because the 9-1-1 tape, does NOT say that.




http://youtu.be/6aVwPqXc-bk?t=1m50s

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Pilze] * 1
    #623303 - 05/17/12 09:22 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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"I feel like he did what he needed to do to protect himself."

are you serious??? the kid didnt have a weapon. at all. how did he need to protect himself?!?!

and about the 911 tape, this is VERY COMMON KNOWLEDGE so now i just know youre trolling... ill still find the sound clip for you though...




Protect himself from potentially getting beaten to death?

Like I said, looking at the photos, he was getting his ass kicked pretty bad.

Now I never considered SB's argument that he did it to himself AFTER he killed the kid. But I dont believe that anyways.

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez]
    #623306 - 05/17/12 09:23 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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the cops didnt tell him NOT to. They said they didnt NEED him to.





Really? This is your argument?




This dispatcher didn't even know he Zim was following Martin. This dispatcher told him to meet at a certain location after he told him to not follow him in a not threatening way.

Zimmerman ran into an dangerous situation.


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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Pilze] * 1
    #623309 - 05/17/12 09:26 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Pilze said:
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Picklez said:

Is that what he said? I would like for you to find something in real evidence that says that

Because the 9-1-1 tape, does NOT say that.




http://youtu.be/6aVwPqXc-bk?t=1m50s




You just proved my point

The dispatcher says "we dont need you to do that," which is completely different from "dont do that." At least to me.

Seems like the opposition has their minds made up as much as I do. And they are even providing evidence of what I am saying.

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez] * 1
    #623310 - 05/17/12 09:28 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

you're a sociopath.

i'm done here.

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: King Koopa] * 1
    #623313 - 05/17/12 09:32 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Picklez said:
the cops didnt tell him NOT to. They said they didnt NEED him to.





Really? This is your argument?




This dispatcher didn't even know he Zim was following Martin. This dispatcher told him to meet at a certain location after he told him to not follow him in a not threatening way.

Zimmerman ran into an dangerous situation.




Do you even listen to the tape?

I dont see how anyone, after listening to the tape, thinks he had any malicious intent :shrug:

What is racist about it? What is over the top?

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez] * 2
    #623315 - 05/17/12 09:36 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

How about the fact that regardless of what martin may or may not have been doing - it is not zimmermans job to do shit about it. he was the *self appointed* leader of neighborhood watch. his responsibilities include calling the cops if he suspected anything (which he did every other day). And that is all.

Following the kid, even if the kid had a blunt in hand and chugging a 40 was out of line, and not his responsibility.


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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez] * 1
    #623317 - 05/17/12 09:37 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

HE PLAYED A POLICEMAN WHEN TOLD NOT TO AND CHASED SOMEONE. HE ENDED UP KILLING THAT SOMEONE WHEN HE WAS SUPPOSED TO WAIT FOR THE REAL POLICE.

HE KILLED A PERSON BECAUSE OF HIS OWN STUPIDITY, NOT TO PROTECT HIS OWN LIFE, YOU FUCKING IDIOT


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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: King Koopa]
    #623318 - 05/17/12 09:42 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry I yelled. :crankey:


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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: King Koopa]
    #623319 - 05/17/12 09:42 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

:bongload:


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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: King Koopa]
    #623322 - 05/17/12 09:50 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

thread back fired on OP :lol:

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: King Koopa]
    #623323 - 05/17/12 09:51 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Sorry I yelled. :crankey:




I just wanted to get some discussion going in here. It's been pretty dead lately

Looks like my job is complete

SB- I definitely am starting to see your point of view

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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez]
    #623326 - 05/17/12 09:53 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

FUCK


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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: P-O]
    #623329 - 05/17/12 09:55 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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thread back fired on OP :lol:




Not at all, I have ulterior motives :smirk:

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