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#623205 - 05/17/12 06:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/17/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Those pictures definitely support the fact that Zimmerman was attacked. We know he wasnt attacked AFTER he shot the kid.
This case is just an example of how the media spun a story to get the country's emotions going before the evidence and all the facts came out
It really makes the entire Martin family look pretty stupid imo.
All these calls of racism and an unfair system and it turns out their kid was probably being a smart-ass, then attacked Zimmerman to try and "teach him a lesson," and the stupid punk ended up getting his ass shot
Good for Zimmerman.
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 Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin [Re: Picklez]
#623214 - 05/17/12 06:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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What is wrong with you?
This thread is sick and needs to be deleted or moved to the dome.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin [Re: King Koopa]
#623217 - 05/17/12 06:34 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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What?
You think Zimmerman is guilty of a crime?
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin [Re: Picklez] 3
#623218 - 05/17/12 06:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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He killed someone and you're praising him for it. Seriously, what are you thinking?
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin [Re: King Koopa] 1
#623224 - 05/17/12 06:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Stone, I know your on here. Move this to the dome...
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez] 1
#623226 - 05/17/12 07:01 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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 This thread was moved from The Smoke Lounge.
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King Koopa said:
He killed someone and you're praising him for it. Seriously, what are you thinking?
He killed someone who was attacking him and smashing his head against the concrete.
I am saying good for him defending himself and having the proper evidence to support it. cause without it, this lynch mob would continue to circle
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Stone, I know your on here. Move this to the dome...
You're a moderator here, do it yourself big boy. I dont see anything wrong with this thread or it's content
I think you are making a gut reaction based on Koops response, who has been vocal in supporting the prosecution of George Zimmerman
Review the rules of TSL and if you still feel it should be moved, then do so.
I dont like threads being in the Dome because you get a much more limited viewing audience and less replies.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez]
#623234 - 05/17/12 07:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from The Thunderdome.
Reason:
No rules are being broken, so there is no need to remove this from the public eye.
Makes for great discussion, imo.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Stoneth]
#623236 - 05/17/12 07:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Stoneth]
#623237 - 05/17/12 07:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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No rules are being broken, so there is no need to remove this from the public eye.
Makes for great discussion, imo.
Yeah I was thinkin that but two people requested so I moved it.
Looked like it was gonna turn ugly. 
Oh well.
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I forgot this thread was back in TSL. 
Edited by Stoneth (05/17/12 07:17 PM)
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No rules are being broken, so there is no need to remove this from the public eye.
Makes for great discussion, imo.
I was thinkin that but two people requested so I moved it.
Looked like it was gonna turn ugly.
Oh well.
I completely understand where you were coming from man, no disrespect intended I assure you.
But this place is seriously in meed of intelligent discussion, and this is a great topic.
Granted the trolls may want to play, but that's what we're here for.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Stoneth]
#623243 - 05/17/12 07:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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It can't possibly be an intelligent discussion when the OP praises a murderer? Then also patronizes his family!?
It may not be a troll OP, but that's literally disgusting. Sorry I even bothered replying, I just wanted to find out why pickz felt like a man deserved to die... figures it just because he was high when he decided to defend himself.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: King Koopa]
#623247 - 05/17/12 07:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Koop, you're mistaking "praising" with "justifying." All picklez is doing is saying his actions were justifiable and within the law. He is also saying how the media mis-portrayed the incident and didn't look at all the facts/evidence, which in this case is true.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Shr0000ooooms]
#623249 - 05/17/12 07:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Btw, this is another example of the drug war being playing a role in someone's death.
If drugs weren't legal, Zimmerman wouldn't have followed the teen trying to arrest him for drugs, I assume.
Also, getting into someone's business is never a good idea.
Live and let live.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Shr0000ooooms]
#623251 - 05/17/12 07:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm not mistaking picklez view. He'll celebrate when Zimmerman is acquitted. And I really do not understand.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Shr0000ooooms]
#623252 - 05/17/12 07:46 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Koop, you're mistaking "praising" with "justifying." All picklez is doing is saying his actions were justifiable and within the law. He is also saying how the media mis-portrayed the incident and didn't look at all the facts/evidence, which in this case is true.
exactly.
and ive told Koops over that loss-of-life is always a shame. But if he clicked the link and saw the pictures, he would see that Zimmerman took quite a smashing. The back of his head was pretty fucked up. If someone was doing that to me, I would shoot them in defense also... That's the point I was trying to make
I just hate how the media ganged up on Zimmerman from the start and really made him out to be this bad guy who killed some momma's angel.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Shr0000ooooms]
#623254 - 05/17/12 07:47 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shr0000ooooms said:
Koop, you're mistaking "praising" with "justifying." All picklez is doing is saying his actions were justifiable and within the law. He is also saying how the media mis-portrayed the incident and didn't look at all the facts/evidence, which in this case is true.
So true.
In the beginning all we heard was how great of a kid this Martin boy was.
Then the facts come to the table and prove just the oppiste.
I'm a firm believer of the right to bear arms and self defense.
A man puts his hands on me, I'm throwing lead, not hands I assure you.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: King Koopa]
#623255 - 05/17/12 07:47 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm not mistaking picklez view. He'll celebrate when Zimmerman is acquitted. And I really do not understand.
Damn right I will be happy when Zimmerman is no longer having to go through this media circus, through being on house arrest, and he gets his bond money back. Absolutely, I dont think he is guilty of a crime, so of course I would be happy when he get's his freedom back. Ive been in similar shoes. No one likes being wrongfully incarcerated.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez]
#623257 - 05/17/12 07:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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If someone was doing that to me, I would shoot them in defense also... That's the point I was trying to make
The simple fact that people actually feel this way is sadder than his death.
It really makes me sad.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez]
#623258 - 05/17/12 07:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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You are mistaking his views with the notion that he is "celebrating" and "praising" a murder, which is not the case.
I'm sorry if you feel like a young man getting killed by a grown man is sad, which it is, but aren't there bigger things to care about? Such as mass murder of children in other countries, massacres, mexico's murder rate, columbia's kidnapping problem?
This shit really just isn't as big of a deal as the media made it, especially with misconstrued facts.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Shr0000ooooms]
#623259 - 05/17/12 08:00 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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An example of the media misportraying the two is the pictures they show. One is Zimmerman looking like it's his mugshot, yet I saw another picture of him smiling with his wife dressed nicely. Then I saw a picture of Martin (stated it was out-dated) and another (stated recently) picture of him with pants sagging throwing a gang sign.
You must look at both sides of this, not just one because you are outraged by the event.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Shr0000ooooms]
#623265 - 05/17/12 08:33 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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personally i think he was wrong for killing that teenager...
-he approached the kid who was unarmed. and killed him when the kid wouldn't be detained (because he did nothing wrong). neighbor hood watch should be walking around with a gun with a itchy finger.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: P-O]
#623267 - 05/17/12 08:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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personally i think he was wrong for killing that teenager...
-he approached the kid who was unarmed. and killed him when the kid wouldn't be detained (because he did nothing wrong). neighbor hood watch should be walking around with a gun with a itchy finger.
That's why I have a problem with what happened. If this kid just walked up to him and started fucking with him that would be one thing. But to pursue him when the cops have already told you to back off then your asking for trouble.
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I don't agree with him killing him in anyway!
But unfortunately the laws are fucked, so he'll get away with it as nothing he did was illegal.
I was just explaining pickle's thought process to Koopa. (or my perception of his thought process.)
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#623271 - 05/17/12 08:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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King Koopa said:
He killed someone and you're praising him for it. Seriously, what are you thinking?
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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: still beLIEve]
#623273 - 05/17/12 08:46 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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'they always get away'
and the fact that the cop told him not to follow
will be what brings him down.
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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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ya man,
I ment shouldnt be walking around with a gun and itchy too
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: still beLIEve]
#623277 - 05/17/12 08:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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still beLIEve said:
'they always get away'
and the fact that the cop told him not to follow
will be what brings him down.
the cops didnt tell him NOT to. They said they didnt NEED him to.
I will wait for the trail and testimony before I decide about the initial confrontation. Because you guys are also basing those judgement on the same media reports that have been proven inaccurate twice already.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez]
#623279 - 05/17/12 08:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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"they always get away"
By "they" I assume he's talking about criminals. (which in most cases is true, unless god forbid you do drugs 
You guy's can't seriously think this was racially motivated as he's Mexican, who often face more oppression than black individuals IMO.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Shr0000ooooms]
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Shr0000ooooms said:
I'm sorry if you feel like a young man getting killed by a grown man is sad, which it is, but aren't there bigger things to care about? Such as mass murder of children in other countries, massacres, mexico's murder rate, columbia's kidnapping problem?
This shit really just isn't as big of a deal as the media made it, especially with misconstrued facts.
The way I see is: I don't go seeking news about murders, I rather not read them because it bothers me in a emotional way. I know about this situation,and I've seen it many times, it happens all the time; I know this story. Just because it's one of thousands of deaths in this eroded country, doesn't mean it does not matter. This killing shouldn't have happened.
It was so way past avoidable.
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"they always get away"
By "they" I assume he's talking about criminals. (which in most cases is true, unless god forbid you do drugs
You guy's can't seriously think this was racially motivated as he's Mexican, who often face more oppression than black individuals IMO.
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"they always get away"
By "they" I assume he's talking about criminals. (which in most cases is true, unless god forbid you do drugs
You guy's can't seriously think this was racially motivated as he's Mexican, who often face more oppression than black individuals IMO.
lol mexicans cant be racist?
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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez] 1
#623284 - 05/17/12 09:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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he was walking around with a gun, he killed an unarmed teenager. The kid was doing wrong but for walking with his hood up, and nothing else
he deserves to sit in a prison cell
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: still beLIEve] 1
#623287 - 05/17/12 09:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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zimmerman was about twice the size of martin, and im not exaggerating...
i would never fuck with someone twice my weight, and i KNOW someone half my weight would not have a fucking chance against me. no way would some 75 pound kid be able to get in the position to get me on the ground and slam my head into the concrete. that shit is impossible.
now, me against a 250-300 pound dude, i have no chance...
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he was walking around with a gun, he killed an unarmed teenager. The kid was doing wrong but for walking with his hood up, and nothing else
he deserves to sit in a prison cell
Did you see the pictures of Zimmerman? He had a broken nose and the back of his head was smashed up pretty bad
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez] 2
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he prob smashed his face and skull against the ground after he killed the kid...
(i know if i killed someone i would make it look like it was a struggle... oldest trick in the book)
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez] 1
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Picklez said:
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PositiveOutlook said:
he was walking around with a gun, he killed an unarmed teenager. The kid was doing wrong but for walking with his hood up, and nothing else
he deserves to sit in a prison cell
Did you see the pictures of Zimmerman? He had a broken nose and the back of his head was smashed up pretty bad
He followed a teenager for no apparent reason.
He was twice the weight of the teenager.
He had like 10 years on the kid.
He killed the unarmed teenager.
End of story dude. Guy is fucking scum.
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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: P-O] 1
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Also, this
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PositiveOutlook said:
he prob smashed his face and skull against the ground after he killed the kid...
(i know if i killed someone i would make it look like it was a struggle... oldest trick in the book)
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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Pilze] 1
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also...
zimmerman was on adderall from what i read, because "he has ADHD" apparently. amphetamine is amphetamine, and using it can cause psychosis. so i blame THAT, not an unarmed kid wearing a hoodie holding a cell phone and a bottle of tea, with a small amount of THC in his blood, walking back to a family member's house getting lost in the sea of apartment buildings that look identical.
zimmerman had called the police ~100 times in a year for NOTHING.
so yea, trayvon martin sure deserved to get shot in the fucking chest...
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Pilze] 3
#623295 - 05/17/12 09:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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OP isnt going to change his mind. i think he took his stance a long time ago, and is past accepting evidence proving him wrong.
like christians.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: still beLIEve] 1
#623296 - 05/17/12 09:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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he was walking around with a gun, he killed an unarmed teenager. The kid was doing wrong but for walking with his hood up, and nothing else
he deserves to sit in a prison cell
Did you see the pictures of Zimmerman? He had a broken nose and the back of his head was smashed up pretty bad
He followed a teenager for no apparent reason.
He was twice the weight of the teenager.
He had like 10 years on the kid.
He killed the unarmed teenager.
End of story dude. Guy is fucking scum.
dont forget the cops were en route and the police dispatcher told zimmerman NOT TO FOLLOW MARTIN
what does he do???? follows him and kills him. talk about a big time fuck up.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: still beLIEve] 1
#623297 - 05/17/12 09:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Also, this
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he prob smashed his face and skull against the ground after he killed the kid...
(i know if i killed someone i would make it look like it was a struggle... oldest trick in the book)
I guess that's very possible.
This just doesnt seem to be the case that everyone in the media wants it to be.
Pilze- the exact opposite. I am making a judgment call today after a lot of the evidence has had time to be analyzed. The evidence was just released in the past week. And after reviewing the evidence, I feel like he did what he needed to do to protect himself.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Pilze] 1
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he was walking around with a gun, he killed an unarmed teenager. The kid was doing wrong but for walking with his hood up, and nothing else
he deserves to sit in a prison cell
Did you see the pictures of Zimmerman? He had a broken nose and the back of his head was smashed up pretty bad
He followed a teenager for no apparent reason.
He was twice the weight of the teenager.
He had like 10 years on the kid.
He killed the unarmed teenager.
End of story dude. Guy is fucking scum.
dont forget the cops were en route and the police dispatcher told zimmerman NOT TO FOLLOW MARTIN
what does he do???? follows him and kills him. talk about a big time fuck up.
Is that what he said? I would like for you to find something in real evidence that says that
Because the 9-1-1 tape, does NOT say that.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez] 2
#623299 - 05/17/12 09:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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regardless of the rocks yet unturned, the facts are as i said above
*followed a kid who was doing nothing wrong
*cops said he didnt need to follow, he followed.
*was twice the size and 10 years older (point im trying to make with this was he could have easily taken care of the situation WITHOUT a gun)
*killed unarmed teenager
no matter what evidence gets found at this point, its going to be real hard to overturn those facts.
second degree murder is what im predicting.
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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez] 1
#623300 - 05/17/12 09:20 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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"I feel like he did what he needed to do to protect himself."
are you serious??? the kid didnt have a weapon. at all. how did he need to protect himself?!?!
and about the 911 tape, this is VERY COMMON KNOWLEDGE so now i just know youre trolling... ill still find the sound clip for you though...
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: still beLIEve] 1
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regardless of the rocks yet unturned, the facts are as i said above
*followed a kid who was doing nothing wrong
*cops said he didnt need to follow, he followed.
*was twice the size and 10 years older (point im trying to make with this was he could have easily taken care of the situation WITHOUT a gun)
*killed unarmed teenager
no matter what evidence gets found at this point, its going to be real hard to overturn those facts.
second degree murder is what im predicting.
I cant argue with anything you said.
All true. Although I think it's really going to come down to proving who started the attack.
If he was just following him, while on the phone with the police, and Martin knew he had drugs or something on him and he attacked Zimmerman in hopes of getting away. Then I have to back Zimmerman.
And Martin wasnt no small kid. He was over 6 foot and the same size as most adult males. So the age/ weight argument is irrelevant imo. But I do see your points and agree it's going to come down to the court trial
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez] 1
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Is that what he said? I would like for you to find something in real evidence that says that
Because the 9-1-1 tape, does NOT say that.
http://youtu.be/6aVwPqXc-bk?t=1m50s
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Pilze] 1
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"I feel like he did what he needed to do to protect himself."
are you serious??? the kid didnt have a weapon. at all. how did he need to protect himself?!?!
and about the 911 tape, this is VERY COMMON KNOWLEDGE so now i just know youre trolling... ill still find the sound clip for you though...
Protect himself from potentially getting beaten to death?
Like I said, looking at the photos, he was getting his ass kicked pretty bad.
Now I never considered SB's argument that he did it to himself AFTER he killed the kid. But I dont believe that anyways.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez]
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the cops didnt tell him NOT to. They said they didnt NEED him to.
Really? This is your argument?
This dispatcher didn't even know he Zim was following Martin. This dispatcher told him to meet at a certain location after he told him to not follow him in a not threatening way.
Zimmerman ran into an dangerous situation.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Pilze] 1
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Is that what he said? I would like for you to find something in real evidence that says that
Because the 9-1-1 tape, does NOT say that.
http://youtu.be/6aVwPqXc-bk?t=1m50s
You just proved my point
The dispatcher says "we dont need you to do that," which is completely different from "dont do that." At least to me.
Seems like the opposition has their minds made up as much as I do. And they are even providing evidence of what I am saying.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez] 1
#623310 - 05/17/12 09:28 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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you're a sociopath.
i'm done here.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: King Koopa] 1
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the cops didnt tell him NOT to. They said they didnt NEED him to.
Really? This is your argument?
This dispatcher didn't even know he Zim was following Martin. This dispatcher told him to meet at a certain location after he told him to not follow him in a not threatening way.
Zimmerman ran into an dangerous situation.
Do you even listen to the tape?
I dont see how anyone, after listening to the tape, thinks he had any malicious intent 
What is racist about it? What is over the top?
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez] 2
#623315 - 05/17/12 09:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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How about the fact that regardless of what martin may or may not have been doing - it is not zimmermans job to do shit about it. he was the *self appointed* leader of neighborhood watch. his responsibilities include calling the cops if he suspected anything (which he did every other day). And that is all.
Following the kid, even if the kid had a blunt in hand and chugging a 40 was out of line, and not his responsibility.
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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez] 1
#623317 - 05/17/12 09:37 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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HE PLAYED A POLICEMAN WHEN TOLD NOT TO AND CHASED SOMEONE. HE ENDED UP KILLING THAT SOMEONE WHEN HE WAS SUPPOSED TO WAIT FOR THE REAL POLICE.
HE KILLED A PERSON BECAUSE OF HIS OWN STUPIDITY, NOT TO PROTECT HIS OWN LIFE, YOU FUCKING IDIOT
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: King Koopa]
#623318 - 05/17/12 09:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sorry I yelled. 
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: King Koopa]
#623319 - 05/17/12 09:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: King Koopa]
#623322 - 05/17/12 09:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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thread back fired on OP
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: King Koopa]
#623323 - 05/17/12 09:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sorry I yelled.
I just wanted to get some discussion going in here. It's been pretty dead lately
Looks like my job is complete
SB- I definitely am starting to see your point of view
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez]
#623326 - 05/17/12 09:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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FUCK
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: P-O]
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thread back fired on OP
Not at all, I have ulterior motives
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez]
#623337 - 05/17/12 10:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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You guys don't understand the concept of how the law works, do you?
Everything Zimmerman was within the law, given the evidence. Yes, he killed a kid. Yes, he was told he didn't "need" to. Yes, it's not morally right.
But he did not do anything against the law. Stand your ground and self defense makes his actions legal, unfortunately, in this case.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Shr0000ooooms] 1
#623340 - 05/17/12 10:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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You guys don't understand the concept of how the law works, do you?
Everything Zimmerman was within the law, given the evidence. Yes, he killed a kid. Yes, he was told he didn't "need" to. Yes, it's not morally right.
But he did not do anything against the law. Stand your ground and self defense makes his actions legal, unfortunately, in this case.
lol omg i didnt see it like this before
jeez, your so deep man
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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Shr0000ooooms] 1
#623342 - 05/17/12 10:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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You guys don't understand the concept of how the law works, do you?
Everything Zimmerman was within the law, given the evidence. Yes, he killed a kid. Yes, he was told he didn't "need" to. Yes, it's not morally right.
But he did not do anything against the law. Stand your ground and self defense makes his actions legal, unfortunately, in this case.
you do realize its going to be hard to prove the 'stand your ground' law, when he chases after the kid after the cop said he didnt need to?
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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: still beLIEve] 1
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You guys don't understand the concept of how the law works, do you?
Everything Zimmerman was within the law, given the evidence. Yes, he killed a kid. Yes, he was told he didn't "need" to. Yes, it's not morally right.
But he did not do anything against the law. Stand your ground and self defense makes his actions legal, unfortunately, in this case.
lol omg I didn't see it like this before
jeez, your so deep man
Well apparently you're not so deep if you're only argument towards mine is insulting my intelligence/stance.
Anwyays, the stand your ground law/self defense still has effect given that Martin beat Zimmerman, if that is the case.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: still beLIEve]
#623345 - 05/17/12 10:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I dont understand this though,
Trayvon Martin had gotten away, he had outrun Zimmerman and could easily have run home.
Instead, he decided to ambush Zimmerman and attack him. In response Zimmerman shot him.
And that's really how I believe it happened. I dont buy this, Zimmerman was able to run this guy down and shoot him, then beat himself up.
Sure it's possible but everything I have seen and heard about Zimmerman, he appears to be a pretty standup dude.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez] 1
#623347 - 05/17/12 10:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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You're making up stories with facts, like the media.
What if Zimmerman seen Martin jacking off in the rain? The dood got shut because he was black, jacking off in the rain high as hell on some dank.
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Picklez, you idiot. [Re: King Koopa]
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That's pretty plausible
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: King Koopa]
#623349 - 05/17/12 11:00 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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You're making up stories with facts, like the media.
What if Zimmerman seen Martin jacking off in the rain? The dood got shut because he was black, jacking off in the rain high as hell on some dank.
Believe what you want man. Whatever helps you sleep at night
Not every time someone from another race kills someone of a different race, is it racially motivated. I dont see any where in this case where it suggests racial motives.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez]
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You forgot to mention his perversions. A black guy jacking off in the rain is a whole nother type of ugly.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: King Koopa]
#623352 - 05/17/12 11:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Whatever, idc, Zimmerman is a Mexican, if black people want to be stupid and irrational and throw the race card yet again then let em do it.
I dont believe race played any role in this.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez]
#623371 - 05/18/12 02:31 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sure it's possible but everything I have seen and heard about Zimmerman, he appears to be a pretty standup dude.
ive heard he was a jackass. who used his power as self appointed neighborhood watch leader to call the cops (100 times a year or some shit).
Sounds douchy as fuck to me
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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: still beLIEve]
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Shr0000ooooms said:
You guys don't understand the concept of how the law works, do you?
Everything Zimmerman was within the law, given the evidence. Yes, he killed a kid. Yes, he was told he didn't "need" to. Yes, it's not morally right.
But he did not do anything against the law. Stand your ground and self defense makes his actions legal, unfortunately, in this case.
you do realize its going to be hard to prove the 'stand your ground' law, when he chases after the kid after the cop said he didnt need to?
actually I think the burden to disprove his affirmative self-defense claim rests with the state. Also, following someone isn't against the law
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: still beLIEve]
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Picklez said:
Sure it's possible but everything I have seen and heard about Zimmerman, he appears to be a pretty standup dude.
ive heard he was a jackass. who used his power as self appointed neighborhood watch leader to call the cops (100 times a year or some shit).
Sounds douchy as fuck to me
he was actually elected head of the neighborhood watch.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: kyuzo]
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Sure it's possible but everything I have seen and heard about Zimmerman, he appears to be a pretty standup dude.
ive heard he was a jackass. who used his power as self appointed neighborhood watch leader to call the cops (100 times a year or some shit).
Sounds douchy as fuck to me
he was actually elected head of the neighborhood watch.
link?
ive heard he was self appointed.
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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Pilze]
#623392 - 05/18/12 10:15 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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zimmerman was about twice the size of martin, and im not exaggerating...
Not true. Even though Zimmerman had ten years on the kid, he said in interview he had no idea he was so young because of his size.
Just because you don't like what happened doesn't mean you get to make up facts to fit your perspective, man...
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Tank333]
#623404 - 05/18/12 11:35 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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"Zimmerman moved his head from the concrete onto the grass to avoid being spoon fed and being in diapers"
"Martin was trying to disarm Zimmerman"
Bet none of you heard those stories from the media, which we all love and respect so much
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: still beLIEve]
#623428 - 05/18/12 02:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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still beLIEve said:link?
ive heard he was self appointed.
this story has been overly editorialized, and the distinction between reporting and editorial is a lost cause for most news outlets. So the mistake is understandable
PS you can find more detailed accounts, if you're interested,but this will work for our purposes
<<<But Zimmerman's family, his neighbors and his lawyer paint a different picture: That of a devoted neighbor, keen enough to protect the neighborhood that residents, in establishing a local Neighborhood Watch group last year, appointed him the captain. The organization was not registered with the national Neighborhood Watch program, but was set up with the assistance of the Sanford Police Department. Zimmerman initiated the program, according to Wendy Dorival, the department's volunteer coordinator.>>>
http://news.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman-why-did-shoot-trayvon-martin-141231964.html
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: kyuzo]
#623429 - 05/18/12 02:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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and I agree he was a jackass. It just doesn't look like he did anything illegal, or at least the state can successfully prosecute
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Shr0000ooooms]
#623436 - 05/18/12 03:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shr0000ooooms said:
the media which we all love and respect so much
 Who exactly are you referring to here?!?!  I think we can all agree that mainstream media has dropped the ball when it comes to properly reporting relevant issues. This very discussion is a poignant example of such.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Tank333] 1
#623439 - 05/18/12 03:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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It was sarcasm I believe.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez]
#623441 - 05/18/12 03:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yea, I got that picklez... lol. My point is that it shouldn't be a topic of discussion in the first place. More appropriate topics might be "why are we RE-electing officials who don't fulfill campaign promises?" Or "Why do the citizens ignore prominent issues over sensationalism such as 'OMG, Snookie's prgnant!' rather than 'Holy fuck, Congress just trashed the bill of rights with this law they just passed!!'" How about "Why do people expect the government to change if they're not willing to participate and affect that change in their own sphere of influence??"
The media isn't there to keep you informed. Its there to keep you distracted from the shit-hole our politicians are turning our country into!
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Tank333]
#623442 - 05/18/12 03:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oh I agree, but that's what happens when you have a bunch of people throw the race card
Edited by Stoneth (05/18/12 04:27 PM)
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez]
#623457 - 05/18/12 04:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was being sarcastic.
Anyways, I agree with you, the media is nothing but a distraction.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez]
#623458 - 05/18/12 04:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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and you're perpetuating the sensationalism by posting about it. So am I, but at least I'm trying to put it. In perspective with the BIG picture.
People are so upset about someone taking someone else's life under a legitimately legal amendment, yet. Hardly anyone's said a thing about our President deciding all on his own to be judge and jury. He assasinated two of our own citizens in cold blood. No trial, no jury of his peers, no proof. Of guilt presented... Just the DoD saying "He's a terrorist; a threat to national security", and Obama called in two drone strikes to kill him and his son.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Tank333]
#623471 - 05/18/12 05:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tank333 said:
Yea, I got that picklez... lol. My point is that it shouldn't be a topic of discussion in the first place. More appropriate topics might be "why are we RE-electing officials who don't fulfill campaign promises?" Or "Why do the citizens ignore prominent issues over sensationalism such as 'OMG, Snookie's prgnant!' rather than 'Holy fuck, Congress just trashed the bill of rights with this law they just passed!!'" How about "Why do people expect the government to change if they're not willing to participate and affect that change in their own sphere of influence??"
The media isn't there to keep you informed. Its there to keep you distracted from the shit-hole our politicians are turning our country into!
because one is boring, complex, and requires me to think, and the other likely involves something easily digestible, lots of sex, and excitement
commercial media gives the consumer what they want, just like fast food joints. This is why cable news is so much more popular than the newshour (even though the later can be accessed free by anyone with a tv)
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: kyuzo]
#625520 - 06/01/12 02:36 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow, this case is getting ugly.
The judge revoked the bond of George Zimmerman today, meaning he has to surrender to sheriffs office within 48 hours and spend the entire length of this trial in jail
The case stinks now because the Martin family and the prosecutors are asking the judge to SEAL all discovery and evidence from the public!! They dont want all the facts of this case getting out. This is in direct violation of Florida State Law! We will see if the judge grants the request by the state and Martin family but we'll see... They dont want the public knowing all the facts!
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: Picklez]
#625597 - 06/02/12 12:31 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Picklez said:
Wow, this case is getting ugly.
The judge revoked the bond of George Zimmerman today, meaning he has to surrender to sheriffs office within 48 hours and spend the entire length of this trial in jail
The case stinks now because the Martin family and the prosecutors are asking the judge to SEAL all discovery and evidence from the public!! They dont want all the facts of this case getting out. This is in direct violation of Florida State Law! We will see if the judge grants the request by the state and Martin family but we'll see... They dont want the public knowing all the facts!
If they don't want the public knowing all the facts, it means that the Martin family has something to hide.  I could speculate on what it is they have to hide, but then I would just be doing what most cable news channels do, right? It's funny, because they have all these legal experts on their news shows, and they speculate and speculate and speculate, and the funny part is that after a while, the speculation seems to become the truth to most people. Almost like brainwashing really. Our whole society/civilization is in shambles. Let's all do a bunch of drugs n say fuck it.
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Fuck the black kid, I would've shot him in the head multiple times.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: mellowparty]
#625762 - 06/03/12 12:07 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Depending on the exact situation, I may well have possibly done the same thing  Wouldn't do it if the kid was like running away or whatever. But if he was trying to like attack me or whatever, he may very well just have to get shot then  Now, if I was getting jumped by 3 dudes or about to get jumped by 3 dudes, one of, if not 2 or all 3 of them fuckers is DEFINITELY gettin shot though if I got a gun on me lol. Whoever said they wouldn't, well, I don't know exactly what to say about that. They'd rather get jumped by 3 dudes than shoot one of them. That's just ridiculous
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) *DELETED* [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
#625839 - 06/03/12 01:33 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Post deleted by King KoopaReason for deletion: Disregard. Stupid post from an even stupider poster.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: King Koopa]
#625840 - 06/03/12 01:40 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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King Koopa said:
That's exactly what a bitch is
Care to explain?
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin [Re: Picklez]
#677884 - 07/13/13 08:39 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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From the beginning I knew Zimmerman would be found not guilty.
Now I am wondering when the riots are gonna start.
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Re: Zimmerman vs. Martin (moved) [Re: King Koopa]
#678217 - 07/16/13 02:29 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea me too, & one thing i can say is that
the report is of him attacking zimmerman
but despite the popular opinion here there is no
evidence to prove him right, there wouldve been blood and
DNA on martins hands which the toxicologist
himself said there was neither. so how could you
still believes zimmermans story
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