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Tank333 said:
Let me guess...

You were all up in arms about Casey Anthony, too, weren't you?



Jesus people. Why can't you just focus on your own problems?? People are murdered every day. People molest children, and rape women, and commit all sorts of other heinous acts. Are you researching those criminal's pictures and spreading them through the interwebs like this too?? NO! Its only because this has happened to make national attention in the media.

Why aren't you more concerned about the corrupt politicians who have plunged this country into a corpocracy where corporations get to write the laws and we have to sit back and watch it happen???

Get a life, chicka. Worry about real problems that affect more than just a couple dozen mourning people in Florida...

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Tank333 said:
Why can't you just focus on your own problems??

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Why can't you just focus on your own problems??

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This is one of biggest problems in our society today. When a person in a community believe their problems are more important than your neighbors, is when a community degenerates. I didn't read your post because I was disgusted by that sentence. Is cispa passing not a problem that we could of prevented, even if you don't think it effects you, which it most certainly does being a part of a community who shares information about marijuana growing techniques, it affects our neighbors. Are the BP spills not our problem because we didin't hold a share in the company, or own real estate on the beaches that were contaminated?

I think you should reevaluate your part in our society.

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I was not up in arms about Casey Anthony. I saw her on tv back when she was first arrested, was glad she got arrested again shortly after being let out on bail, but then forgot all about it because it took like two years.
But when her trial started, and was on tv, I was watching her lawyer and he brought up some good points about how she could have accidently drownd in the pool. He had me hopeing she got found not guilty.
I dunno tho she was probably really did kill her baby, on purpose or not she will take that to her grave.

George Zimmerman is a completly different story tho.

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Why can't you just focus on your own problems??

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This is one of biggest problems in our society today. When a person in a community believe their problems are more important than your neighbors, is when a community degenerates. I didn't read your post because I was disgusted by that sentence. Is cispa passing not a problem that we could of prevented, even if you don't think it effects you, which it most certainly does being a part of a community who shares information about marijuana growing techniques, it affects our neighbors. Are the BP spills not our problem because we didin't hold a share in the company, or own real estate on the beaches that were contaminated?

I think you should reevaluate your part in our society.

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I JUST FOUND A PIC OF GEORGE ZIMMERMANS WIFE!

LOOK AT THIS PIC!

LOOK AT THAT FACE! THAT IS THE FACE OF A WOMAN WHO MARRIED A COLD BLOODED MURDERER!!!!!!

SHAME ON HER!!!!! SHAME ON HERRR!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You cant compare the 2 cases at all. The only 2 things they have in common is someone died in each case and they are both being held in Florida Superior Court System.

I dont know why everyone is hating on Zimmerman, jump to the media bangwagon wayyy to quick. I will be pissed off if he gets time

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Harry_Ba11sach said:
Even if he was just like "Hey bro, can I bum a smoke?"

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You don't know him, or anyone related to Travon Martin, do you? Were you personally devastated when you found out about the incident? I seriously doubt it. And so why in


But some mexican shooting a black kid is NOT her problem. Its not my problem, its not a problem of anyone connected to this community (if it had, I'm sure someone would have said so).
 

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First they came for the jews, then they came for me.

The stand your ground law negatively affects everyone in the United States. If someone can just pull out a pistol and murder someone and not get arrested, then we truly are living in a land without law.

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You cant compare the 2 cases at all. The only 2 things they have in common is someone died in each case and they are both being held in Florida Superior Court System.

I dont know why everyone is hating on Zimmerman, jump to the media bangwagon wayyy to quick. I will be pissed off if he gets time

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Seems like you want to excuse him just because the media has already judged him guilty.  Well what if he IS guilty?  You want him to go free?  That was quite the ignorant statement Picklez.

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In your hypothetical obviously Zimmerman is in the wrong, but that's not the situation.

I guess in the end it doesnt matter. Obviously the loss of life is always hard, especially to those closeest, and the whole situation is unfortunate but I dont feel like Zimmerman was in the wrong

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The stand your ground law negatively affects everyone in the United States. If someone can just pull out a pistol and murder someone and not get arrested, then we truly are living in a land without law.

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The stand your ground law negatively affects everyone in the United States. If someone can just pull out a pistol and murder someone and not get arrested, then we truly are living in a land without law.

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Stound ur ground law negatively affects us because Stand you ground law means that people like me might get murdered and the person who shot me doesn't even get arrested for it. A lot of people who murder people dont even get arrested much less go in front of a jury and that is the problem. It took a whole entire nation protesting for george zimmerman to even be arrested. They need to get rid of that stand ur ground law before more people are killed.

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The stand your ground law negatively affects everyone in the United States. If someone can just pull out a pistol and murder someone and not get arrested, then we truly are living in a land without law.

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Firstly,  you REALLY need to use proper terms if you're going to get into a debate about the legal system. Murder is NOT justified under the "stand your ground" law. The law allows someone who is under attack to respond with as much force as he or she feels is necessary to defend themselves. If that self defence results in a death, THAT is what is protected.

The big question here is "Did Trayvon Martin threaten George Zimmerman?" If he had, then Zimmerman is justified in his self defence. If. NOT, then it truly was a murder (which is defined as causing the unlawful death of another with malice aforethought).

Secondly, how can you say that the stand your ground law negatively affects people? It only gives protections to people who are defending themselves from attack. You still have to prove in a court of law that you were in fact in danger. Without a law like that, if you get attacked in the street, your ONLY legal recourse is to run away.

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Haha. Yeah. Why would I want a child of mine living in a place where people carry weapons for protection?

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Haha. Yeah. Why would I want a child of mine living in a place where people carry weapons for protection?

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Because people who want guns for illegal uses are still going to get them and people have the basic rights to protect themselves and their property

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Yeah, because marijuana can be used as a weapon. Good point.

I'm not arguing for or against the 2nd amendment. I just think it's disgusting and pathetic to say that to be "safe and secure", a nation needs to be "strapped" It's illogical to say the least.

My chances of getting shot would decrease dramatically if they were outlawed...

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Yeah, because marijuana can be used as a weapon. Good point.

I'm not arguing for or against the 2nd amendment. I just think it's disgusting and pathetic to say that to be "safe and secure", a nation needs to be "strapped" It's illogical to say the least.

My chances of getting shot would decrease dramatically if they were outlawed...

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While this is true, it's not necessarily going to decrease violence.  We just wont have guns to do it with.  If someone wants to kill you, or hurt, they will.

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Whatever random challenge that is, I'd fight..

I'm against violence on every level.

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You can't say you'd fight in a randon encounter with a criminal and in the very same paragraph proclaim you're against violence of every kind!

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I am not arguing the second amendment. I'm neither for or against.  I just think the whole gun ordeal in the US is shitty. I don't think the fault lies on the amendment fully; it's more of a cultural phenomenon as result of the 2nd.

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It is unfortunate

And if guns were outlawed, the only people who wouldnt have them, would be law-abiding citizens.

You really think criminals give a fuck if guns are illegal or not? theirs are probably illegal anyways.

You cant say you arent against the 2nd amendment then say you dont think people should have the right to own firearms. That is what the 2nd is.

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I dare say that robberies and crime may even go up if guns were outlawed.  I mean think about it, you've got a criminal (who chances are, is going to own a gun regardless of the legalities of it because that's the case nowadays to be honest) who knows that a lot less people are carrying guns because they're outlawed whereas before, he has doubt in his mind as to whether or not people are carrying guns because you've got people with CCP or who carry a gun openly and that doubt in his mind about who's carrying might possibly keep him from trying to rob say.....6 out of 10 people, whereas if he knows they are outlawed, might try to rob say 7 or 8 out of 10 people where it was just 4/10 before.  You never know, but I think crime going up and your chances of getting shot going up instead of down (as koopa said) is a legitimate possibility.  I mean because most people that own guns are responsible owners anyway and you wouldn't have to worry about them unlawfully shooting you in the first place, whereas if they were outlawed, the same criminals would have them, if not more dumbass people who got a wild hair up their ass and were inspired to go out and rob people knowing most of them weren't carrying.  Just a thought.

And another thing, the whole, nobody would have guns if they got outlawed assumption is one hell of an assumption too.  There's a lot of responsible owners (people you don't have to worry about shooting you unlawfully) out there who wouldn't give up their shit, but whom you also don't have to worry about shooting you over 10 bucks either.

Give everyone guns, fuck it.  Damn sure would make things more interesting to say the least, one way or another   The people that want them bad enough will have them anyway, regardless of felony convictions or probation or whatever.

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