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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: Thebooedocksaint] * 2
    #607642 - 01/31/12 12:07 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Ignorance.  The practice of harvesting and eating these whales is very old, and has a negligible effect on the environment when compared to raising livestock.  If you want to think that your culture is in some way superior to theirs because they kill the meat themselves instead of paying others to do it, that is fine with me.

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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #607647 - 01/31/12 12:56 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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I think "tradition" is never an excuse for anything.





This is a domestic issue too.  We let our Indians kill some whales every once in a while because it is part of their culture.

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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: SmOakland]
    #607648 - 01/31/12 01:02 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Actually it is illegal now, but it shouldn't be.  Do you think all hunting should be illegal BDS?

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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #607663 - 01/31/12 03:09 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Ignorance.  The practice of harvesting and eating these whales is very old, and has a negligible effect on the environment when compared to raising livestock.  If you want to think that your culture is in some way superior to theirs because they kill the meat themselves instead of paying others to do it, that is fine with me.





Pilot whales are endangered.  I'd say that has a pretty big impact on the environment.




Not true.  Look it up.  And read this:  http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/pr/species/mammals/cetaceans/pilotwhale_longfinned.htm

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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: Thebooedocksaint] * 1
    #607981 - 02/02/12 07:24 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Hindus probably think the same about our penchant for beef.  Lacking any rational basis for why such is actually a bad practice, it's all based on cultural norms and perceptions, and no different than an appeal to tradition




Other than the fact we at least humanely kill our cows, or are supposed to anyways.





But the cows do not live in humane conditions their entire lives.  Its even worse for pigs and chicken.  You also need to consider that in nature, every death is painful.  An animal either dies of a very virulent disease of they are killed by another animal.

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    #608438 - 02/05/12 10:07 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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The reality of nature is that the world is a brutal place.



QFT!




You should consider that a large proportion of the world gets its meat from hunting, often times with primitive weapons.  Those two examples of cetacean hunts were relatively humane.  Saying that the people in the video should somehow be "above" everyone else and every other species in the world is ridiculous and culturally insensitive.  The cows you see being treated well make up a small percentage of cows in the US, and it is likely that even though you see them grazing in a pasture, a large proportion of their life is spent pent up standing in piles of feces.

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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: DungenessDank]
    #608568 - 02/06/12 07:31 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

hawks- the fact that you value the feelings and lives of dolphins more than cows, pigs, chicken, or sheep is due to your biases.  Nobody in the first world NEEDS to kill for survival, but if you eat 99% of mcommercial meat you are paying for carnage of greater scale than what is happening in the vid.

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