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RasJeph said:
Do I believe there is some kind of small super group of disgustingly rich people who rule the world and control almost every aspect of our lives?

Yes.

Do I believe they left us clues on our dollar bills and in paintings and hide aliens and are actually inter-dimensional monsters that are shapeshifters who are killing us with fluoride and chemtrails?

No.

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Fisherman said:
asnrs.

They hide with yo grandmomma.

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Fisherman said:

But it is does not do that so much ._.

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King Koopa said:
Instead of calling us out, you should coerce your granny into giving up life's valuable secrets. Oh and try to find the serum for reversing the poison

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Will do funny guy!

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RasJeph said:
I'm not a believer in chemtrails, but I DO refuse to get a flu shot.

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RasJeph said:
I'm not a believer in chemtrails, but I DO refuse to get a flu shot.

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As do I!

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PositiveOutlook said:
imo.... "illuminati" is the invisible boogy man the freemasons what you to chase

freemasons deff are real

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PositiveOutlook said:
for the most part the freemasons is just a mens club, so your grandfather is not a bad person, because he was a mason. 

Most leaders and people that are successful are approached to be members,  Masonic symbols are everywhere, once u know what to look for..

imo freemasonary is used for control . most people join for the mens club part of it,  but once u start taking blood oaths (they really do) and orders from the order it gets real.

lower degrees do not participate in all the rituals and real meetings.  Its easy to control a country if all the leaders and business owners are members of your organization and will do what you tell them


I used to order freemason books of ebay,  kinda intersting stuff , and my friend lives beside a freemason lodge,  all the windows are concreted over at the "masonic temple "

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Sobeiyt said:
I feel my grandpa chose a cult over family

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PositiveOutlook said:
for the most part the freemasons is just a mens club, so your grandfather is not a bad person, because he was a mason. 

Most leaders and people that are successful are approached to be members,  Masonic symbols are everywhere, once u know what to look for..

imo freemasonary is used for control . most people join for the mens club part of it,  but once u start taking blood oaths (they really do) and orders from the order it gets real.

lower degrees do not participate in all the rituals and real meetings.  Its easy to control a country if all the leaders and business owners are members of your organization and will do what you tell them


I used to order freemason books of ebay,  kinda intersting stuff , and my friend lives beside a freemason lodge,  all the windows are concreted over at the "masonic temple "

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My grandfather has been in it for 30+ years and they won't even tell me what degree he is.  But being in it for so long I imagine he's worked his way up there.  I am sticking with him being a bad person / living a double life. You should have seen the look in my grandmas eyes when I started questioning her...  And yeah I know alot about the masons and read alot about them.  I feel my grandpa chose a cult over family and humanity.

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King Koopa said:
I'm trying to come off as rood.

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Once a candidate has agreed to these oaths, he may be allowed to put on a Mason’s apron (although this practice, too, varies by lodge). The candidate is usually asked to kneel at the altar and place his hand on the Volume of Sacred Law or the Bible which open at every lodge. The candidate must then recite the oath (sometimes known as the obligation) of the entered apprentice degree. This oath is usually worded as follows: “I, ____ __ ____, of my own free will and accord, in the presence of Almighty God and this Worshipful Lodge of Free and Accepted Masons, erected to God and dedicated to the memory of the Holy Saints of Jerusalem, do hereby and hereon, solemnly and sincerely promise and swear, that I will always help, forever conceal, and never reveal any of the secret arts, parts, or points of the hidden mysteries of Freemasonry, which I have received, am about to receive, or may be hereafter instructed in, to any person unless it shall be to a worthy Brother Entered Apprentice, or within the body of a just and duly constituted Lodge of such; and not unto him or them whom I shall hear so to be, but unto him or them only whom I shall find so to be after due trial, strict examination, or lawful Masonic information. Furthermore: I do promise and swear that I will not write, indite, print, paint, stamp, stain, hue, cut, carve, mark or engrave the same upon anything movable or immovable, whereby or whereon the least word, syllable, letter, or character may become legible or intelligible to myself or another, whereby the secrets of Freemasonry may be unlawfully obtained through my unworthiness. To all of which I do solemnly and sincerely promise and swear, without any hesitation, mental reservation, or secret evasion of mind in my whatsoever; binding myself under no less a penalty than that of having my throat cut across, my tongue torn out, and with my body buried in the sands of the sea at low-water mark, where the tide ebbs and flows twice in twenty-four hours, should I ever knowingly or willfully violate this, my solemn Obligation of an Entered Apprentice. So help me God and make me steadfast to keep and perform the same.”

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Taken by 3rd Degree Freemasons – (New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1964 A.D.)
The blindfolded candidate kneels at the altar, places both hands on the volume of sacred law, the square and compass, and repeats after the worshipful master:       
I, _________, of my own free will and accord, in the presence of Almighty God, and this Worshipful Lodge, erected to Him and dedicated to the holy St. John, do hereby and hereon most solemnly and sincerely promise and swear, that I will hail, ever conceal, and never reveal any of the secrets, arts, parts, point or points, of the Master Mason's Degree, to any person or persons whomsoever, except that it be a true and lawful brother of this Degree, or in a regularly constituted Lodge of Master Masons, nor unto him, or them, until by strict trial, due examination, or lawful information, I shall have found him, or them, as lawfully entitled to the same as I am myself. I furthermore promise and swear, that I will stand to and abide by all laws, rules, and regulations of the Master Masons Degree, and of the Lodge of which I may hereafter become a member, as far as the same shall come to my knowledge; and that I will ever maintain and support the Constitution, laws, and edicts of the Grand Lodge under which the same shall be holden. Further, that I will acknowledge and obey all due signs and summons sent to me from a Master Masons' Lodge, or given me by a brother of that Degree, if within the length of my cable tow. Further, that I will always aid and assist all poor, distressed, worthy Master Masons, their widows and orphans, knowing them to be such, as far as their necessities may require, and my ability permit, without material injury to myself and family. Further, that I will keep a worthy brother Master Mason's secrets inviolable, when communicated to and received by me as such, murder and treason excepted. Further, that I will not aid, nor be present at, the initiation, passing, or raising of a woman, an old man in his dotage, a young man in his nonage, an atheist, a madman, or fool, knowing them to be such. Further, that I will not sit in a Lodge of Clandestine-made Masons, nor converse on the subject of Masonry with a clandestine-made Mason, nor one who has been expelled or suspended from a Lodge, while under that sentence, knowing him or them to be such. Further, I will not cheat, wrong, nor defraud a Master Masons' Lodge, nor a brother of this Degree, knowingly, nor supplant him in any of his laudable undertakings, but will give him due and timely notice, that he may ward off all danger. Further, that I will not knowingly strike a brother Master Mason, or otherwise do him personal violence in anger, except in the necessary defense of my family or property. Further, that I will not have illegal carnal intercourse with a Master Mason's wife, his mother, sister, or daughter knowing them to be such, nor suffer the same to be done by others, if in my power to prevent. Further, that I will not give the Grand Masonic word, in any other manner or form than that in which I shall receive it, and then in a low breath. Further, that I will not give the Grand Hailing Sign of distress except in case of the most imminent danger, in a just and lawful Lodge, or for the benefit of instruction; and if ever I should see it given, or hear the words accompanying it, by a worthy brother in distress, I will fly to his relief, if there is a greater probability of saving his life than losing my own. All this I most solemnly, sincerely promise and swear, with a firm and steady resolution to perform the same, without any hesitation, myself, under no less penalty than that of having my body severed in two, my bowels taken from thence and burned to ashes, the ashes scattered before the four winds of heaven, that no more remembrance might be had of so vile and wicked a wretch as I would be, should I ever, knowingly, violate this my Master Mason's obligation. So help me God, and keep me steadfast in the due performance of the same.

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These are just a few of the many Oaths, that masons take.  After taking many many oaths about masons cutting up ur body if you reveal anything, you prob learn fast not to talk about freemasonry to anyone!
























Homer becomes a "stone cutter" (freemason)

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Sobeiyt said:
Where'd you get the writings about the blood oath from?

DO all degrees have to take this oath? I imagine they have to take an oath but Idk if everyone like entry level has to take a blood oath.

I have contemplated holding my grandpa hostage to give me answers   But he is close to death anyways, so maybe I can talk him into giving me answers. But my grandma is still alive and well and she is fucking nuts in my eyes now. I don't even consider her family anymore. She is just another old lady with too many secrets and cannot be trusted by me!

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-Every member takes many many oaths of secrecy .

-I found all the oaths and images from google, eventhough i have read other masonic oaths in freemason books

-Plese dont harass your grandpa about his past.  If the man is on his deathbed, then just be there for him.  The past is the past.  And being a freemason does not mean he is a bad person (cant say the same about the organization though).  So just be there for him dude.  Dont kidnap him .  Maybe go through his library and read some masonic books he must own.  Just Dont get too into it... goes the rabbit hole goes reeeal deep.

-once u start researching freemasonry, other topics that u can get into are : famous Freemasons,  Lucifer( masonic god), Occult (books), rituals, kabalah, masonic symbolism (everywhere!!!), the list goes on.....


just be careful with the knowledge you fill your head with .... "When you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back into you"

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She is just another old lady with too many secrets and cannot be trusted by me!

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Wow you sound paranoid delusional.

Anyways, when I graduated this girl sitting in front of me who I had classes with (similar major) had a white whatever it is called with a freemason symbol on it. I thought it peculiar at the time.



The white thing in that picture...not sure what it's proper name is.

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still beLIEve said:
i want to hear more about this stuff

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A topic i find really really interesting is Masonic symbols EVERYWHERE



First this short cartoon clip, that relates to the topic.  This shows how everyone has to answer to a higher up masonic member.

Masons are told to put their symbols everywhere.  They call this "hiding it in plain sight".  most ppl have no idea.... but a member see's the symbolism and can smile to himself .

(look at the image by his bed)


I caught the new "MTV live last week"  and wasnt suprised to see the background they chose for the new set

Lemony Snicket’s A Series of Unfortunate Events:







imaginarium of doctor parnassus:


(black and white masonic checker pattern ) (in every lodge)






(kinda weird he died during this masonic movie)


Fun with dick and jane:



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(all seeing eye + hand sign)


(her chin upside down is a all seeing eye)






(this is an actual song )

You can litterly find hundres and hundreds of music videos, tv shows, and movies with masonic symbols all through them.  Look on youtube.  there is sooo many vids on this.  I could spend all day posting symbolism ...

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I even made 2 youtube videos with all the symbolism I have found.
One video consists of purely album covers, of artists covering one eye, in one way or another. To symbolize the all seeing eye...

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post your vids.  or pm them to me.  I would like to watch, i like seeing masonic symbolism.  Once you know what to look for you see it everywhere!!!





protip: dont join the masons outta curiosity, its a organization used for control...


Read a few Occult books (real ones), and see how much it relates to freemasonry

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PositiveOutlook, I closely looked at all the things you linked, finally.  And I am amazed with levels of symbolism that goes over my head. Like the chin upside down all seeing eye on Gaga.. Just ridiculous.

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Ya dude, Gaga is such a masonic sellout, its almost funny.  So is Jay-z and hit "triangle handsign" .  But to make it big in the Industry, you must pay your dues, i guess...

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Its fucking 5am Ive been up all night reading a book called "You said what?" (lies and propaganda throughout history)  Its a good one!

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Ill check it out. thanks



Last Night I watched "Eyes Wide Shut"  . Soooo many Occult/Masonic references.  But not surprising seeing as the director, Stanley Kubrick was a freemason

(symbolism)

the Movie is about a man who sneaks into a elite secret society meeting, and they find out.  So they do what they can to get him not to talk.  The whole movie is filled with occult symbolism in the background.

There was a quick part when the camera scanned all the masks in the circle quick, and i one mask was a triangle with one eye (all seeing eye).  You could not get any more clear.  lol.  I cant find a picture on google of it....




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DungenessDank said:
So let me get this straight. You guys are taking popular symbology and tying it together in order to formulate proof of some vast conspiracy?

Listen, people accuse me of being a nut all the time, but even I know that it is a logical fallacy. Sure it is entertaining to think about, but I don't think you should take it for more than it is.

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Sobeiyt said:
Like the link, I linked in my 2nd post, of the Ex member who was saying all the programming she got starting at 2 years old from what she can remember.  Shits creepy, how to stop it?

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