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 HempMaster
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 Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds)  [Re: magick81]
#593268 - 10/21/11 11:22 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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magick81 said:
Since moving the fan into the tent and sealing most of the airleaks with ducttape, it is much quieter than it was before. Thanks for the tip Hempmaster 
Glad i could help. Setups coming together nicely man, did u transplant your babies into larger pots yet?? pics,pics we want pics lol
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
#593274 - 10/21/11 11:45 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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pics,pics we want pics lol
Well put good sir.
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I've been working with power tools since I was 8, my dad is an electrical engineer who owned a 280 gal fish tank, and I studied biology with a specialty in genetics. Getting dirty comes naturally. I think my parents inadvertently trained me to be a weed grower.
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
#593370 - 10/21/11 09:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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HempMaster said:
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magick81 said:
Since moving the fan into the tent and sealing most of the airleaks with ducttape, it is much quieter than it was before. Thanks for the tip Hempmaster
Glad i could help. Setups coming together nicely man, did u transplant your babies into larger pots yet?? pics,pics we want pics lol
Nah not yet. Unfortunately I spent the last of my grow dollars on some ducting. Will have to wait until next weekend unless I wanna be eating cardboard for the rest of the week lol
Plan to get some soil and pots on payday and i'll update once I do.
Oh, btw, while at the shops I found a PH kit for $12. Includes PH test drops, PH up and PH down. Only thing is that its a kit for an aquarium.
Can I use it to adjust my water/nute solution before watering?
I assume if its fish safe, it should be plant safe too, right?
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#593377 - 10/21/11 10:14 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nah not yet. Unfortunately I spent the last of my grow dollars on some ducting. Will have to wait until next weekend unless I wanna be eating cardboard for the rest of the week lol
Plan to get some soil and pots on payday and i'll update once I do.
Oh, btw, while at the shops I found a PH kit for $12. Includes PH test drops, PH up and PH down. Only thing is that its a kit for an aquarium.
Can I use it to adjust my water/nute solution before watering?
I assume if its fish safe, it should be plant safe too, right?
Yes it will work fine, if u look on ebay u can get a PH meter for as little as $15, same for a PPM meter.. though shipping is usually as costly as the item itself lol
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
#593380 - 10/21/11 10:30 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cool. I already have a soil PH test kit. So I can use this one to adjust ph before watering.
Anyways, it seems some of my smaller plants haven't grown much since being moved into the tent. Stress of being moved from outdoors to indoors? Or maybe they've reached their max size in these little pots?
Or maybe I keep looking at them too often I'm not noticing the changes lol
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
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HempMaster
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#593392 - 10/21/11 11:03 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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magick81 said:
it seems some of my smaller plants haven't grown much since being moved into the tent. Stress of being moved from outdoors to indoors? Or maybe they've reached their max size in these little pots?
Or maybe I keep looking at them too often I'm not noticing the changes lol
i would think that is the case, also vedging requires more blue light than red, and HPS bulbs produce mostly red light. Thats why ppl use a MH for vedging since their are mostly blue light. since u have them under a HPS they will take longer to grow to the size you wish to flower at. and u should move them into the pot size u will keep them in till they mature. and looking at them too often will make u think their not growing lol my advice to u is if u check them lots of times a day, get a measuring tape and measure them 1 time a day so u can compare from day to day and you'll see they are growing lol I remember my very first grow, i think i checked my plants about 50 times a day lol and it seemed to take forever for them to grow, it didn't in reality, just felt that way cuz i was so pre-occupided with them...lol
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
#593396 - 10/21/11 11:18 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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lols, I know what you mean.
When they first sprouted when the pots were outdoors, I would check on them many times a day, lol.
After a couple of weeks I sometimes wouldn't check on them for 1 or 2 days at a time.
Now they've been moved into the tent its seems the cycle has restarted, hehe
I'm sure after a week or two, I will only be checking them once every 1 or 2 days.
I like to take lots of photo's and compare, but you've given me a good idea. I think I'll start taking measurements once a day and keep a record of it. That way I don't feel like they aren't growing.
I remember moving in with my last gf. After six months, I looked at a 6 month old photo of her and thought to myself, "where the hell did all that fat come from?" lols
Maybe I shouldn't have posted that, I'm expecting to get flamed by some ladies now, bring on the inferno lol
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i would think that is the case, also vedging requires more blue light than red, and HPS bulbs produce mostly red light. Thats why ppl use a MH for vedging since their are mostly blue light.
Maybe after I start my new job, I might buy myself a digital ballast.
In the meantime, are there cfl's I could add to my setup to give it the right spectrum.
When I was doing my research before I started growing, ppl said that because I'm on a budget I should just get HPS. They told me my stems wouldn't be as thick compared to MH, and the difference in yield was as little as 10%.
At least thats what somebody posted on my thread at drugs-forum, and is the reason I only got HPS.
If I had known they would veg slower with a HPS, I wouldn't have gone the same path.
Pity I didn't found this forum earlier
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1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
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Edited by magick81 (10/21/11 11:35 PM)
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#593428 - 10/22/11 07:19 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've done some online window shopping, and have found these MH bulbs that are designed to work with HPS ballasts. It is a: SUNMASTER 400 WATT RETRO CONVERSION HPS TO MH LAMP and works out cheaper than buying another ballast and bulb. It's $70 from my local store though I can probably find a cheaper one if I shop around.
Anyone got any experience with these bulbs? Any cons? Would I be better off buying a MH or digital ballast instead of using one of these bulbs in my setup.
Cheers
MagickZ
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Never mind.
I've just read that they use much more energy due to the conversion process and put out less lumens.
So'll I'll probably just go with a digital ballast or a MH ballast. Time will tell 
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
Edited by magick81 (10/22/11 07:40 AM)
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HempMaster
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#593497 - 10/22/11 02:30 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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magick81 said:
I've just read that they use much more energy due to the conversion process and put out less lumens.
So'll I'll probably just go with a digital ballast or a MH ballast. Time will tell
Its best to get the digital, saves u from needing an entire new reflector and removing the MH kit for HPS when flowering and vice versa, when all u have to switch is the bulb is will save time and aggravation lol plus then you could sell your current HPS ballast and make a bit o $$ back.
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#593557 - 10/22/11 10:58 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok I went out and got the PH testing and correcting kit.
We have a water filter hooked up to our kitchen sink. Tested the PH. It was hard to tell the difference but it read either 6.6 or 6.8. A light green colour.
Also tested the water straight outta the regular tap, no filter. It went blue which would lead me to believe it was at least 7.2-7.4
I was surprised with the difference seeing as we haven't replaced the filter media in the filter for a few years, lol, I expected the filtered water to be the same as the regular water.
I have been watering with the regular water straight outta the tap. PH is too high.
Should I:
a) Start watering with the water from the filter, is the PH close enough
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b) Use the PH down to adjust the waters PH. I think around 6.5 is whats wanted right?
On a happier note, I was dreading the approaching summer, worried my plants would get cooked, dreading the cost of buying an aircon unit. Anyways we had a scorcher of a day today, and the plants did not go above 34o c.
Thank god for insulation, lol
The room with the tent was still higher then the other rooms in the house, but I was expecting to get 40o in that room. The room was on 31o, Quite happy about that 
Edited by magick81 (10/22/11 11:08 PM)
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HempMaster
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#593571 - 10/23/11 12:52 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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did not go above 34o c.
Thank god for insulation, lol
The room with the tent was still higher then the other rooms in the house, but I was expecting to get 40o in that room. The room was on 31o, Quite happy about that
34c is a bit on the hot side, was that with the tent open? either way make sure you have lots of fans on your plants. the best thing to do is have the light off during the day and only on in the later evening when it starts to get cooler. my light goes off at 10am and on at 4pm during vedging so its off during the hottest part of the day.
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
#593583 - 10/23/11 02:25 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tent was closed. Although today was a scorcher, I reckon it was nearly 40o outside. Maybe I'm exagerating a little, but while we were driving i could see heat waves rising from the road lol.
Thank god for aircon in cars. If the costs of power go down, I'd love to get AC for the house. But Sydney power pricing just keeps getting higher its rediculous!
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either way make sure you have lots of fans on your plants. the best thing to do is have the light off during the day and only on in the later evening when it starts to get cooler. my light goes off at 10am and on at 4pm during vedging so its off during the hottest part of the day.
That's what I planned to do when summer came.
Although summer is not due to start until December.
If it keeps up and looks like an early summer as we have had the past few years, I'll switch the lighting cycle to be off during the hottest part of the day.
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
Edited by magick81 (10/23/11 02:31 AM)
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#593585 - 10/23/11 02:52 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea man wanna try keep the room hovering around 26, though I will say it was hot as shit today, and that's down here in Melb so Syd must have been way worse
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HempMaster
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: T-Rex]
#593586 - 10/23/11 03:16 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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T-Rex said:
Yea man wanna try keep the room hovering around 26, though I will say it was hot as shit today, and that's down here in Melb so Syd must have been way worse
cool man, no pun intended lol i'm from canada, so we are going into winter, i just draw cool air in from my window through 10 feet of ducting. Most weed can handle those temps, just not for days on end or you'll get stunted growth, most strains i have grown are fine up to 32c ambient temp, but its not ideal....25-30c is best. still i'm sure you'll be ok, just keep them fans going and open the tent if it gets too hot.
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
#593698 - 10/23/11 03:04 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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My dark period was from 2am to 8am.
Last night I left them on during the normal dark period, and they will turn off today from 10am till 4pm. Looks like it's gonna be another hot one today.
It's funny, the last 5 or 10 years summer has been coming early.
If it is an early summer, it's 2 months earlier.
Man we've really fucked the planet up lol
Anyways, it's my first day at my new job. Been out of work for almost 2 years for health reasons, wish me luck on my first day 
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
Edited by magick81 (10/23/11 03:06 PM)
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HempMaster
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#593699 - 10/23/11 03:18 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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magick81 said:
My dark period was from 2am to 8am.
Last night I left them on during the normal dark period, and they will turn off today from 10am till 4pm. Looks like it's gonna be another hot one today.
It's funny, the last 5 or 10 years summer has been coming early.
If it is an early summer, it's 2 months earlier.
Man we've really fucked the planet up lol
Anyways, it's my first day at my new job. Been out of work for almost 2 years for health reasons, wish me luck on my first day
Good luck man! i know how ya feel haven't been workin in just over a year, because i went back to school, i finish the first week of next month....can't wait to start workn again....though school turned out to be fun, hadn't been in a class room in 17 yrs lol
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
#593820 - 10/24/11 04:47 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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2 out of 5 plants were looking droopy and wilted when i came home from work.
Not sure if it was from all the extra heat today or if they are thirsty.
Anyways, I gave them a water.
I also raised the lights a little bit and kept the tent open for a while.
Moved them closer to the fan also.
I hope its not anything too major as one of them is my biggest one.
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
Edited by magick81 (10/24/11 05:52 AM)
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#593834 - 10/24/11 05:51 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
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HempMaster
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#593851 - 10/24/11 08:30 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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looks like they may be thirsty, hope their lookin better next time u check!
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
#594047 - 10/25/11 02:42 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Checked the plants when I got home from work today.
Smaller plant seems to have perked up.
The larger plant, which is pictured in the previous post, still looks the same.
I thought maybe it didn't get enough water, so I watered it a little more.
Today was much cooler today, and the tent temp did not go over 25o celcius.
I'll check on it tomorrow, and hopefully its better by then.
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
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