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 magick81
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 Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds)  [Re: magick81]
#592636 - 10/17/11 11:30 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Temp was at 30o celcius and still rising by the looks of it, so I raised the lights to 4ft 
I might look at investing in a cooltube next payday. Another fan is out of the question as the centrifugal I'm running is as loud as buggery! Can't believe one of the selling points of it was it was a few decibels quieter lol
I reckon running 2 at once would sound like a vacuum cleaner running all day and night lol
I ducted the exhaust into the ceiling, and wrapped the fan and most of the ducting with a doona. It helped somewhat, but is still quite loud.
Anyways, since raising the lights to 4ft, the temp at the height of the soil is 29o celcius and seems to be steady at that temp.
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
Edited by magick81 (10/17/11 11:54 PM)
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#592639 - 10/17/11 11:56 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh yeah, I think I need to water soon. I think I read that watering with the lights on can burn the plants, is that right?
If so, whens the best time to water? Before the lights come on? Or after they switch off?
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#592644 - 10/18/11 12:52 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Also, does my centrifugal fan need to be on 24/7?
Its rather loud and I would like to have it off during the dark period for stealth.
I can put an oscilating fan in there 24/7, the centrifugal is just too loud
lols, sorry for the quadruple-post 
Here's the latest pic of my grow, now under 400w hps in 4x4x7 tent
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
Edited by magick81 (10/18/11 05:24 AM)
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#592654 - 10/18/11 06:23 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
magick81 said:
got me some of those too! they rock!
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#592655 - 10/18/11 06:29 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
magick81 said:
Oh yeah, I think I need to water soon. I think I read that watering with the lights on can burn the plants, is that right?
If so, whens the best time to water? Before the lights come on? Or after they switch off?
You won't burn your plants if you water with the lights on, i think your refering to spraying plants with the light on. Also you can lower the light again, just make sure you have a fan blowing onto the plants, that will stop them from burning, just use your common sence, if you can't keep your hand at the plant height cuz it gets too hot then the lights too close!
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
#592727 - 10/18/11 08:33 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the tip Hempmaster 
I will add a fan in there when I get home and lower the lights.
Cheers
MagickZ
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#592735 - 10/18/11 10:11 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Added another fan blowing over the plants. Lights are now 18 inches above plants.
Since yesterday I can see the growth difference
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
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HempMaster
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#592753 - 10/19/11 12:01 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
magick81 said:
Added another fan blowing over the plants. Lights are now 18 inches above plants.
Since yesterday I can see the growth difference
glad i could be of some help. really you want to keep the lights as close as possible to keep the plant from stretching too much, with the lights closer u get a shorter inter-node length, which generally translates to better and bigger flower formation and growth. though some strains naturally grow taller than others, most sativa strains tend to grow taller even if the light is close to the canopy, while most indicas stay shorter. though i'm doing AK47 right now and it has 90% sativa genetics from what i have read but the plants stay very short, so u should always know the characteristics(did i spell that right? lol) of the strain u'r growing. Also if your still having a noise issue with your inline fan u should try adding ducting to the intake side aswell and hanging the fan inside the tent rather than on the top if the vent holes, i read this can lower the noise. I have a 4' Canfan in my 5x5x7 tent and its not too loud, though its connected to my carbon filter, if u check out my current grow u can see what i'm talking about, theres a link in my signature. Oh and if your looking into aircooled reflectors u should check out the Coolstar line of refelectors, their my favs as i own one lol
Cheers
Hemp
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My Tombstone will read: IwasburiedfacedownsoucanallkissmyA$$
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
#592755 - 10/19/11 12:06 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the advice.
If I were to suspend the exhaust fan inside the vent what would be the best way? Cables ties?
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
Edited by magick81 (10/19/11 12:14 AM)
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#592757 - 10/19/11 12:15 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Picture Update
Day 17 (2nd day in tent)
    
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
Edited by magick81 (10/19/11 12:34 AM)
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
#592759 - 10/19/11 12:56 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
HempMaster said:
You won't burn your plants if you water with the lights on, i think your refering to spraying plants with the light on. Also you can lower the light again, just make sure you have a fan blowing onto the plants, that will stop them from burning, just use your common sence, if you can't keep your hand at the plant height cuz it gets too hot then the lights too close!
Yeah you were right. In that case, if misting with the lights on will burn the plants, whats the best way to mist?
Once I start on nutes I plan on using Dutch Masters Penetrator and Liquid Light Foliar sprays. Should I mist them just after lights out? Or should I raise the lights after misting? Whats the best way/time to mist/spray?
Cheers
MagickZ
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
Edited by magick81 (10/19/11 12:57 AM)
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HempMaster
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#592762 - 10/19/11 01:14 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
magick81 said:
Thanks for the advice.
If I were to suspend the exhaust fan inside the vent what would be the best way? Cables ties?
I used the nylon straps that came with my tent, u can see a pic of it in my journal, but anything that will hold it inplace without slipping will work. my buddy used string and duct tape.. lol it worked fine and was cheap. Does your fan have a mounting bracket on it? if it does then you can just hang it with screws and wire or nylon string, if it doesn't like mine u have to be a bit more creative. you just have to make sure its secure, don't want the thing falling onto you plants mid way through your grow lol..you can just wrap nylon rope around the middle of the fan and then add duct tape to make sure it doesn't slip off the fan and hang it on part of the tents frame. if you have a bracket on it cable ties would probably work fine as long as their the heavy duty ones..off topic, I'm wondering what type of system are you going to put your plants into? soil? soiless? hydro? DWC?
wow man, just had a bad reality check, i'm on my last spliff from my last crop LOL ack...and its gonna be another 10 weeks b4 i'm done my current one...
Oh and about misting, its best to do it right b4 the light goes off. but you can do it right when it comes on as it usually evaporates b4 the temps in the tent get high.
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#592768 - 10/19/11 02:49 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the info.
I'll just be using soil this time. Gonna mix it with some perlite.
Maybe after I've had a successful grow or two I will try hydro or DWC.
Also, I plan to do some LST'ing along with some fim'ing to train my plants. I'd like to try scrog but I think I'll wait till after i got more experience also.
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#592867 - 10/19/11 07:40 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Who knew that the last seed to pop and sprout would be the biggest of her sisters?!? They seem to be loving there new home under the 400w light.
Tried getting a macro pic but it kept coming out blurry, nowhere near as good as my last macro pics I'm guessing it came out this way because of my unsteady hand, and not as much light indoors.
Anyways, here it is
I'm gonna play with some of the camera options to see if i can get a clearer pic
Cheers
MagickZ
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
Edited by magick81 (10/19/11 07:56 PM)
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#592887 - 10/19/11 09:38 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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When do you recommend I transplant them. Also, I think i'll need to start feeding nutes soon, right?
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
Edited by magick81 (10/19/11 09:46 PM)
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#592898 - 10/19/11 10:19 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thats about where mine were when I transfered.
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In order to grow good weed you need to be part carpenter, electrician, plumber, biologist, geneticist, chemist, and very willing to get dirty.
I've been working with power tools since I was 8, my dad is an electrical engineer who owned a 280 gal fish tank, and I studied biology with a specialty in genetics. Getting dirty comes naturally. I think my parents inadvertently trained me to be a weed grower.
See what you think on my first try.
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#592915 - 10/19/11 10:53 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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OK thanks.
A little apprehensive about transplanting them, as ive never done it before. Any tips?
I want to transplant into square pots big enough to last the remainder of the grow. Will a 2 (U.S) gallon pot be sufficient for each plant? That would be 7.5 litres. Mixed with 20% perlite.
What do you think?
Also, I'm assuming I shouldn't start feeding nutes until the plants have recovered from the shock of transplanting? How long would that be in general?
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#592941 - 10/19/11 11:43 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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When I transplanted them I learned I need a few things: A bucket for old soil, A bowl that your pot will be filled in (to catch spillage I did mine indoor), a bucket with water to rinse your roots off (if yours are like mine they'll hold a ton of gunk) and a towel for your hands.
I don't know sizes, I just got the deepest 6" pots i could find, saddly they were round.
I ended up using more soil than I thought I would. I ended up taking longer than I thought.
And thats what I'm assuming and therefore doing.
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In order to grow good weed you need to be part carpenter, electrician, plumber, biologist, geneticist, chemist, and very willing to get dirty.
I've been working with power tools since I was 8, my dad is an electrical engineer who owned a 280 gal fish tank, and I studied biology with a specialty in genetics. Getting dirty comes naturally. I think my parents inadvertently trained me to be a weed grower.
See what you think on my first try.
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
#593222 - 10/21/11 02:19 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Setup is practically complete.
I moved the centrifugal inside the tent. The nylon straps would have ripped out if I tried to use them to hold the fan, so instead I screwed the brackets on, then hung them off the tents frame with some hanging chain.
Also, I noticed that the vent I was using had lots of airleaks, and 2 of the plasterboard screws were coming loose, not sure why.
As my mates dad says, there is nothing that duct tape cannot fix, lol
I know it is better to have the ducting going straight, but I prefer to have it like this, it gives me some leeway to move the tent around the room without it pulling the vent outta the ceiling.
Next week I'm gonna get a carbon filter on my payday.
I figured I can take the twist outta the ducting when installing the filter, if it really needs it.
I might also glue the vent into place with some liquid nails.
Since moving the fan into the tent and sealing most of the airleaks with ducttape, it is much quieter than it was before. Thanks for the tip Hempmaster 
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
Edited by magick81 (10/21/11 02:34 AM)
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#593223 - 10/21/11 02:56 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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