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national pride!
    #588598 - 09/25/11 10:26 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

do you have it?  How do you show it?  Do you care?  Do you think it's a good thing?


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Re: national pride! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #588603 - 09/25/11 10:34 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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FurrowedBrow said:
do you have it?  How do you show it?  Do you care?  Do you think it's a good thing?




No. I don't. No. Potentially.

I don't have national pride because I feel the negativity coming from my nation outweighs the positivity. I want to love my country, but they make it exceedingly hard.

"At least its not XXXXX" isn't a valid argument IMO. Thats like stepping in dog shit and saying "at least its not human shit". You still stepped in shit.

I do however have hometown pride. I love my town and I hate it when people talk shit about it and come through and ruin it with litter and stuff. Its easier for me to love something so small an intimate. I know almost everyone. I don't like everyone, but I know them. And the people here combined with the beauty that is naturally here makes it very loveable. And hateable at the same time I guess.


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Re: national pride! [Re: RasJeph]
    #588612 - 09/25/11 10:52 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Efforts to trace back to natural rather than political causes the violent antagonisms existing between nations today are altogether mistaken. All the symptoms of supposedly innate antipathy between peoples that are customarily offered in evidence exist also within each individual nation. The Bavarian hates the Prussian; the Prussian, the Bavarian. No less fierce is the hatred existing among individual groups within both France and Poland. Nevertheless, Germans, Poles, and Frenchmen manage to live peacefully within their own countries. What gives the antipathy of the Pole for the German and of the German for the Pole a special political significance is the aspiration of each of the two peoples to seize for itself political control of the border areas in which Germans and Poles live side by side and to use it to oppress the members of the other nationality. What has kindled the hatred between nations to a consuming fire is the fact that people want to use the schools to estrange children from the language of their fathers and to make use of the courts and administrative offices, political and economic measures, and outright expropriation to persecute those speaking a foreign tongue. Because people are prepared to resort to violent means in order to create favorable conditions for the political future of their own nation, they have established a system of oppression in the polyglot areas that imperils the peace of the world.




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Re: national pride! [Re: DungenessDank] * 1
    #588636 - 09/25/11 12:41 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)



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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: national pride! [Re: THEBats]
    #588650 - 09/25/11 01:24 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

NO I DONT HAVE PRIDE the banks are going to charge 1% for everything you do, transactions, buying stuff. Paying bills, direct deposit. Fuck this I hope the banks all go down and everyone sees what a shitty mistake it is to pull this federal shit :yuno:


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Re: national pride! [Re: BlueBerry_Swisher]
    #588714 - 09/25/11 04:56 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I have lots of pride to be from Québec, none from Canada, I will always say to people while I travel that I am from Québec and not Canada. I do care since we have been fucked over by fed gov. so many times over the past (and present), we  should already be a country, with 2 referendums to separate, the last one ended 49.42% "Yes" to 50.58% "No". Just by magic, the whole votes of a region who were separatists dominant got "lost"...

I know it is not every Québecers who think like me, but I have to say that one day it will happen, and we will stop being a colony


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Pour un instant, j'ai respiré très fort
Ça m'a permis de visiter mon corps
Des inconnus vivent en roi chez moi
Moi qui avait accepté leurs lois
J'ai perdu mon temps à gagner du temps
J'ai besoin de me trouver une histoire à me conter
Pour instant j'ai oublié mon nom
Harmonium - Pour un instant
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Re: national pride! [Re: Manitou]
    #588752 - 09/25/11 09:34 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I might have some national pride if I lived in a nation who actually cared about the inhabitants and whose government actually tried to help its citizens instead of its corporations


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Re: national pride! [Re: FurrowedBrow] * 1
    #588773 - 09/26/11 02:06 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I love Australia. I hate everyone who lives in Australia.


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Re: national pride! [Re: T-Rex]
    #588817 - 09/26/11 12:18 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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T-Rex said:
I love Australia. I hate everyone who lives in Australia.




I hate Australia for their internet blacklist.

But I live in America so i don't care. I have pride in America because of who some former Americans have been, hell I even have Kansas pride. I just don't enjoy the current status quo and i have no pride in the current state of things.

I'll be pretty politically active on subjects I care about though once i have a job and a vehicle to drive me to protests etc...


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Re: national pride! [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #588824 - 09/26/11 12:43 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

What's instilled this Kansas pride in you?


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Re: national pride! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #588825 - 09/26/11 12:43 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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FurrowedBrow said:
What's instilled this Kansas pride in you?



John Brown.


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Re: national pride! [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #588826 - 09/26/11 12:44 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

You know what they say "God bless the USA (except Missouri)."


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Re: national pride! [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #588839 - 09/26/11 02:41 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

i'll choose happiness over pride any day

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Re: national pride! [Re: nannybooboo]
    #588858 - 09/26/11 04:18 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

AMMMMERRRIKKKKA :randy:

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Re: national pride! [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #588859 - 09/26/11 04:20 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Thebooedocksaint said:
Quote:

T-Rex said:
I love Australia. I hate everyone who lives in Australia.




I hate Australia for their internet blacklist.




Never came into existence, well if it has I haven't noticed


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Re: national pride! [Re: T-Rex]
    #588893 - 09/26/11 05:53 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

no no no no

this country is horrible. I lost all faith after the second term of the second Bush. I want to find a better one.

everyone can hate on me for this go ahead....

We're fatter then the rest of the world.
We're stupid, We are run by corporations.
I don't think America is going to revolt. Too stupid and lazy.

:sorry:  couldn't resist throwing in my  :2cents:

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Re: national pride! [Re: T-Rex]
    #588929 - 09/26/11 08:04 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

T-Rex said:
Quote:

Thebooedocksaint said:
Quote:

T-Rex said:
I love Australia. I hate everyone who lives in Australia.




I hate Australia for their internet blacklist.




Never came into existence, well if it has I haven't noticed




Even so they do censor media that enters their country and/or ban.


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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: national pride! [Re: THEBats]
    #588974 - 09/27/11 03:42 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

i have pride for people in my country that treat people nice and are good people.

ie, almost nobody. but it happens sometimes.

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Re: national pride! [Re: eNtranceAsexit]
    #589045 - 09/27/11 01:59 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

The Australian internet black list certainly exists, and as above mentioned the ban video games.

I'm to against censorship to really think that's a good idea.

But I'm shutting up because that's not the theme of this thread.


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Re: national pride! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #589049 - 09/27/11 02:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Nationalism is inhumane :shrug:


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