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Re: DWC 90w LED + MH + HPS Bag Seed and Cyber Crystal Grow PICS UPDATE! [Re: phrostbyte]
    #607401 - 01/29/12 11:55 PM (13 years, 26 days ago)

I just started some cyber crystal seeds.
How's the smoke - is it as knock out as they say?  Like sleepy time? How potent?
I disagree with above poster about hybrid appearance
those are some of the fattest and biggest I've ever seen on plants indoors. 

  I like the look of the buds
but they aren't white
You're doing awesome for just starting out and jumping into hydro
I still like soil myself though
I've considered dwc, but
I think I like the slower pace
some say hydro doesn't taste as good
not sure about that since I haven't had identical clones
grown in the same space in both mediums. 

Getting the hang of running a perpetual scrog
One half will be without a screen
Until the mothers have been sexed and harvested
I think the cyber looks like it'll scrog okay
maybe have to use more smaller plants
was there much stretch?
did it nearly double in size during flower at least?

thanks for documenting your grow, not much info on this strain available

ps.  I fought some mites and won with neem though I had to actually dip my plants in a bucket of water and neem as well as spraying everything down.  They were bad, killed all the mothers, but the clones hadn't gotten hit so hard yet thankfully.

Edited by vaporwing (01/29/12 11:58 PM)

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Re: DWC 90w LED + MH + HPS Bag Seed and Cyber Crystal Grow PICS UPDATE! [Re: phrostbyte]
    #607418 - 01/30/12 06:52 AM (13 years, 26 days ago)

thanks! I was a little worried about the few giant leaves
I've never seen that before
I was trying to imagine how that might work
I know the leaf tips can be trimmed half way back
maybe more on these
maybe some phenos will be different
vegging clones less time, more smaller plants
might help, but might not be needed
It takes a while to understand scrog fully

I suggest you google dan dare scrog
try to replicate as close as possible his setup
he uses dwc (but with a header-not necessary)
your tent isn't ideal for scrog but could work

anyway, some strains are more suitable
but I'm not commercial or anything
It doesn't matter if leaves don't fit through net
possibly better -I think it might work
after the buds form, leaves aren't absolutely necessary
and there are smaller fan leaves on the buds

that plant is unexpectedly tall
but any plant can be tied down

I also grew out the pineapple express last year
It was awesome, love the smell
It will put a smile on your face for sure
I tossed all my plants from fem seeds after
orange bud hermied
then I found out it was just a trait of orange bud
not because it was fem
cuz I was about to order some regular orange bud
you can't get pineapple express regular seeds
I wouldn't mind getting that strain back one day
when I get into tissue culture that is

also look up perpetual scrog on youtube
that guy was getting 12-16 ounces/month in soil
but I think he has since switched to hydro
you can see how it's done though

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Re: DWC 90w LED + MH + HPS Bag Seed and Cyber Crystal Grow PICS UPDATE! [Re: phrostbyte]
    #607781 - 02/01/12 06:34 AM (13 years, 24 days ago)

8-12" above the bucket is the norm from what I've read

also, why don't you drill a hole
put a drain tube at the bottom of the bucket
it's not difficult 
I drill a hole in a rubber cork, pop it in the hole in the bucket
push a pvc tube in
Bend and secure to hold water in, straighten to drain
Or you could stop the end, fold against bucket
wa-lah you have a drain and a view of the water level in one. 

nice work on the screen though 
not sure what you're going to do with it while you adjust water
you could also use a pump to drain
flushing is easier with hydro for sure
soil requires many gallons to be poured through,
collected, and dispatched
for the best flush of nutrients
which is even trickier under a screen
than draining whats in there and replacing it only once

there I go talking myself into dwc again
(shakes it off)

anyway, good luck

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Re: DWC 90w LED + MH + HPS Bag Seed and Cyber Crystal Grow PICS UPDATE! [Re: phrostbyte]
    #607998 - 02/02/12 09:07 AM (13 years, 23 days ago)

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The scree fits perfect in my tent so If I needed to I could even use grow light hangers to lift the screen off and hold it there while I replace the water.




or you could go cheaper and use string with hangman knots
just let it hang all the time
it's more flexible that way

I did think about how you could use another bucket
after I made that last post
too much weed

I see you have access to the screen from two sides
but that back corner might be hard to reach if you have short arms
or you have access from another side
just a thought
I have seen folks run deep scrogs like that
against a wall or three and I don't know how
they are able to reach in easily
to keep the area beneath the screen at the back
free of foliage and small bud sites
arms must be longer than mine
I can only reach about 2.5 ft under mine
and that's stretching some
having only one plant might make it a little easier
make sure to bend the plant over early
to train the side branches to grow up and out

I would use the screen attached to bucket idea
for vegging in a perpetual scrog
but with a smaller screen, positioned lower

(many scroggers veg under the same screen, then switch,
but having multiple separate screens under flower constantly
is a real perpetual grow)

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