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I_AM_SWIM
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Re: I am currently helping a case to get JWH illegalized... conflict of interest, etc. [Re: ValleyGirl] 1
#567822 - 06/27/11 05:02 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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ValleyGirl said: All these bathtub chemicals seem to just hurt people I know.
JWH isn't even the chemical in the 'bath salts' i think you are talking about, nor is it a bathtub chemical.
The only deaths I know related to JWH-x substances are from people killing themselves and not the chemical itself.
Personally I think it's silly to ban JWH, and I think it is in conflict with our constitutional rights. Let the parents parent their children, there is no need for government to be involved. Prohibition never stopped kids from consuming alcohol, and it won't stop people from ingesting synthetic cannabinoids.
It will likely cause more harm than good, since it will still circulate through the black-market anyway. And age is not a factor when selling drugs. A drug-dealer will gladly take money from a person of any age.
Don't be a
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I_AM_SWIM
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Re: I am currently helping a case to get JWH illegalized... conflict of interest, etc. [Re: ValleyGirl]
#567954 - 06/27/11 11:57 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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ValleyGirl said: Yeah, I agree with you, Enthrall. That's part of my testimony. Legalize the harmless stuff.
In that case,
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I_AM_SWIM
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Re: I am currently helping a case to get JWH illegalized... conflict of interest, etc. [Re: mhbound]
#568046 - 06/28/11 02:37 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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mhbound said: I would like to say again that no cannabinoid has ever been linked to a death, including the JWH chems...So someone rename the goddamn title.
Yeah this is true. The only deaths related to JWH were due to the fact that noobs couldn't handle the high, and got panic attacks and committed suicide.
noobs
i smoke jwh with weed, because i like gettttting RELLLLY REALLLLLY HIGH! its a great combo.
neway
at dumb young noobs that don't know what they are doin'. o well they will learn
and remember darwin awards
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I_AM_SWIM
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Re: I am currently helping a case to get JWH illegalized... conflict of interest, etc. [Re: ValleyGirl]
#568047 - 06/28/11 02:41 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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ValleyGirl said: My friend smoked way too much of it, started to throw up a lot, and had a heart attack.
sounds like your friend may have had heart/blood problems to begin with.
I don't see how someone can throw up from the stuff. It always seems to make my nausea go away, as with many other cannabinoids.
Maybe your friend had other physiological problems before ingesting the RC, and thus the RC exasperated the problems.
either way I still don't think it's a good idea to make it illegal, because people will still be able to get it.
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Re: I am currently helping a case to get JWH illegalized... conflict of interest, etc. [Re: ValleyGirl]
#568049 - 06/28/11 02:43 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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ValleyGirl said: My friend smoked way too much of it, started to throw up a lot, and had a heart attack.
Plus I'm going to need evidence that this is true, like a news reporting or an obituary report. Because anybody can say anything on the internet. And you could be lying for all anyone knows. The only deaths from the JWH substance that have been reported are due to peoples own idiocy, and not the drug itself.
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Re: I am currently helping a case to get JWH illegalized... conflict of interest, etc. [Re: ValleyGirl]
#568095 - 06/28/11 06:29 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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ValleyGirl said: Sure, I can get a you link to the toxicology reports and cause of death once they are released.
Again, my whole stance in the courts will be Legalize Real Weed so the unregulated stuff isn't needed.
That's great, but ummm.
The unregulated stuff doesn't have to be illegalized in order for it not to be needed by the general public. Once the real deal is legal, nobody would need the synthetics. Illegalizing JWH-xxx chemicals may make it difficult for chemists to study.
I'll be waiting for those toxicology reports and cause of death. Be sure to post them here.
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Re: I am currently helping a case to get JWH illegalized... conflict of interest, etc. [Re: volcomstoner]
#568373 - 06/29/11 11:03 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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volcomstoner said: If you know someone that really died from JWH alone from taking too high of a dose, If JWH was kept legal and was regulated as a recreational drug, that person could have probably had much easier access to dosage advice avoiding this fatal overdose.
Prohibition is never the answer, people will always find a way to obtain certain drugs and they will most likely remain to be completely uneducated about the risks associated with that drug.
QFT
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