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not funny, you bandwagon of shitstained creases. much disdain you've caused me!1 i've got bad ratings now. +(
When you come here and claim that ....
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eNtranceAsexit said:
so when you say that "you can so get addicted to weed!1 look at me!1 i had(have) to quit!1 look how pathetic weed or *substitute with Meth or some kind of stimulant* can make you!1"
BURRRr... wrong.
..... then I'm gonna call you a fucktard for it.
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i just wanna say that i didn't mean to call you out on anything, Spacemonkey, i didn't mean for this to become about drug abuse in partcular, only that drugs are but one motivating factor in one's reward and pleasure and that there are many different things that have the same effect as that of a stimulus for said reward center, ie drugs, or sex or even food... as our more basic motivating trait.
this thread was about a comparison of THOSE things and also "habits" with drugs and how they are all motivating factors that are DEVELOPED, and not simply attained by accident, or even through evolution... well... except food... all but food.
food is pretty much key. no shit, though, anyway... sorry for callin' you out.
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 Re: WEED IS NOT ADDICTIVE.  [Re: niteowl]
#558034 - 05/24/11 10:47 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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niteowl said:
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not funny, you bandwagon of shitstained creases. much disdain you've caused me!1 i've got bad ratings now. +(
When you come here and claim that ....
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so when you say that "you can so get addicted to weed!1 look at me!1 i had(have) to quit!1 look how pathetic weed or *substitute with Meth or some kind of stimulant* can make you!1"
BURRRr... wrong.
..... then I'm gonna call you a fucktard for it.
oh jeez. that's your retort?  way to go!1
should i actually have an argument for this guy? this older, bearded guy.... SURE
first off, the correlation of Meth and weed was a joke and again satire... secondly... you are smoking the drugs under your own free will and thusly it's not METH or WEED being the precursor to your habit forming blight, it's your own free will and your spent & much lacking time conception.
end of argument. retort?
(and sorry for the old man thing, but you personalized my argument when you decided to straw up this thread even more.)
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So you come here and make a claim that you KNOW to be wrong
then get your panties all wadded up when we call you out on it
Yea, I was right .. you are a fucktard 
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Re: WEED IS NOT ADDICTIVE. [Re: niteowl]
#558038 - 05/24/11 10:59 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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and how the fuck did you come to that conclusion? no one called me on anything in that reference.  only numonk questioned it at all... like i said it was a joke... and mostly everyone talked about my subject in the first half the beginning page.
 did you even read the thread?
senility is a bitch...
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Yea, Fucktard, I read the thread, and you never made any hint at being 'funny/satirical' in your OP
Hence the reason for my 0 rating
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senility is a bitch...
I just saw the end of this post lol 
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Re: WEED IS NOT ADDICTIVE. [Re: niteowl]
#558061 - 05/25/11 12:37 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yea, Fucktard, I read the thread, and you never made any hint at being 'funny/satirical' in your OP
Hence the reason for my 0 rating
oh, shit... it was bad joke!1 damn, i guess i'm not cut out to be a comedian!
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heh... tell me about it, eh?
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This thread just gave me inspiration.
To suck dick for weed?
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Re: WEED IS NOT ADDICTIVE. [Re: King Koopa]
#558069 - 05/25/11 02:03 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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This thread just gave me inspiration.
To suck dick for weed?
 pffftt ahaahahahahaa
 it's cause i ravaged bats psyche with incomparable zen logic and prevailed!
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Weed is addictive, you said it yourself.
It masturbates your "pleasure zones" of your brain making you feelsgoodman. Anything that feelsgoodman can be very habit forming if it's appreciated by the recipient; if this substance or what have you easy to come by and it's cost/reward ratio is accepted by the recipient, it could lead to addictive behavior.
problem?
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Re: WEED IS NOT ADDICTIVE. [Re: King Koopa]
#558080 - 05/25/11 02:51 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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yep weed can be addictive. weed can also NOT be addictive, so wanna fight about it? 
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I also believe we are genetically pre-disposed to chasing the dragon. We need that buzz. That reward. If not wheres the will to live? Seriously, everything an individual needs to help perpetuate the human existence has that part of your brain flaring. From food, to sex, it even feels good to teach a child to walk, to talk, EXERCISING!!! The other buzzes you don't need but the need for the buzz is concrete.
Substances like marijuana cannot be compared to things like meth or crack. Heroin has a whole host of interactions with our brains, what spacemonkey was saying it actually "re-wires" the brain in ways better explained by a neuroscientist. But the jist is that, if you're on that drug for a long period of time, your brain will try to attain normality while under that drugs influence. So when you the substance is not taken, your brains is trying to make sense of it all and balance itself out while flushing the drugs out. Very shitty feelings. So yes certain substance have addictive properties pertaining to the reward center of the brain, but you can't exclude the other interactions happening up there, especially if your body won't let you.
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Re: WEED IS NOT ADDICTIVE. [Re: King Koopa]
#558091 - 05/25/11 03:44 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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well then, good job, my main man.  cangradulations!1 
can't really argue with that. but still i gotta say heroin and meth are pretty extraneous substances to be dealing with, so maybe somewhat a bigger issue.
but i will say though, the drive for life thing... now that's sound but... i don't know if i agree with ya. 
i mean, because it's pleasurable, it's good... that's hedonism, isn't it? hmmm? perhaps more can come of this disscussion, afterall? 
anyways... i don't think that heroin is... anything at all to be considered an "un-addictive" substance, and if i ever implied it, I AM SORRY. i don't believe it is "un-addictive" but i do say that we "do stupid things" and sometimes those things feel... good. now what pushes that motive?
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Yes. The will to live. Pleasures?
Maybe that could explain suicide. A person that's almost to extremely are getting their fix of "pleasure" Like even if you're sad, somethings going in your life for a while, shit sucks but a healthy minded person would not want to kill themselves. They are willing to live to get over that slump to get that good feeling back.
A higly depressed, unhealthy minded individual gets a pass from me. Want's the point of waking up everyday feeling like god took a shit on you? Hope is far fetched to this person. Happiness is a fairy tell. Life has never been fulfilling. For this person, losing life would be a pleasurable experience.
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Re: WEED IS NOT ADDICTIVE. [Re: King Koopa]
#558094 - 05/25/11 03:55 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm just throwing shit out there.
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Re: WEED IS NOT ADDICTIVE. [Re: King Koopa]
#558096 - 05/25/11 03:59 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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i thought the will to live was the will to power? :P i mean it's a good answer to why suicidal people might have their anguish and it certainly calls into question, the ability to thrive, and whether it is insurmountable.
well, i don't know if i agree compltely though... will to power; it's pretty thin...
yes, i am talking like danny glover...
thin...
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I think I AM SWIM might have been on to something.
What is this will to power?
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