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Opiate addiction is not just a craving! It literally changes your brain chemistry. And yes I suppose it is the reward center that enforces that. I can tell you from experience, not by what is in books or wikipedia! I had no craving to take opiates and actually had bad side effects that out wieghed anyting positive. I wanted to quit! My brain wouldn't let me! Why? Because my chemistry changed and my brain now needed this substance to get thru the day! I hated it! Like taking a ani depressant! After repeated and prolonged use of this stuff, your brain reacts and now depends on this substance to make the chemicals it needs to function. Try a prozac patient. Tell them to quit and see what happens! They get sick! Their brains need the stuff to function. And what is the reward in prozac?
Cannabis is not addictive in the ways I mentioned! It is not nessecary to keep smoking if you don't want too. And no ill effects. Life goes on with maybe a weak appetite and a little insomnia for a day or 2. No dependence. You can read all the pro drug bullshit you want. This what I said is truth and I lived it!!!!
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So in essence, your comparing the damage, as you call it of cannabis to heroin?
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eNtranceAsexit said:
explain why heroin is addictive and why someone would suck a dick for some crumbs.
explain what the crumbs do and how it is so importent for the body to maintain the levels of heroin that a "junkie" wants...
you can't, can you?
PS: the great Sun Ra is great.
There is no comparison! ! Reward system my ass! It becomes part of your body chemistry. I DID NOT crave the drug morphine. I did crave to have my normal life back! I hated the DEPENDENCE of the drug. I wanted off! And when I tried, my body punished me for it! It is not a mental challenge that you can simply overcome by saying I will not take this no more. I suppose you could, but then pay the price! I did pay the price. Cold turkey!
Cannabis I have quit for many reasons at many different times and the worst I felt was insomnia. No sickness what so ever. And this mental addiction, yes you can over come this with out real ill effect.
But don't compare the 2!
Btw, I was a doctor induced addict. Yes I liked opies on and off thru life. But pain management was serious for me. I had a herniated disk in my lower back that brought me to tears on numerous occasions. Made it impossible to do my job and perform my duties as a father and husband. I went thru physical therapy, got steroid injections, infrared therapy, tens therapy, tried many many non addictive pain killers and had no luck. Doc finally sends me to pain management and he starts a regimen of opiates. Started real low since I was concerned about addiction. Unfortunately, these didn't work either. Next course of meds went a bit higher and along came a long acting one,MSContin. Addiction happened to me and I did not even enjoy it! Obviously my brain did tho!
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So this thread needs to cool down! Let's get this on track and keep the debate civil! Anymore flaming or trolling will not be tolerated!
Thank You!
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everyone takes things all personal because they don't like their personal reflections being disturbed?  a new disscussion?
Seriously brah?!?!?!
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 Re: WEED IS NOT ADDICTIVE.  [Re: Data]
#558328 - 05/25/11 07:01 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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He wont be reading your reply for a few days!
Now if anyone would like to continue this topic, please do. People have opinions and sometimes they don't match your beliefs.
So let's move on, smoke a doob, and discuss this properly!
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Do I really need to explain?
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Re: WEED IS NOT ADDICTIVE. [Re: Hendershot]
#558387 - 05/25/11 09:24 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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I guess, a subject about weed is not addictive? I really don't understand the purpose of this thread.
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Re: WEED IS NOT ADDICTIVE. [Re: King Koopa]
#558396 - 05/25/11 09:46 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Let get back on track please?
Its over and he is not the subject.
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Re: WEED IS NOT ADDICTIVE. [Re: Hendershot]
#558556 - 05/26/11 12:51 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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There is no doubt that cannabis is psychologically addictive. That you can want or even crave it! Being alive for almost 40 years I have learned alot. Weed, I may not like to quit but I can at anytime. I will feel anxious, hyper, maybe not have much of an appetite and have a little sleep disturbance. Not really a big deal! Now for the others that are physically addictive, that a whole different story. If you quit these cold turkey, you will have issues. Agmotes, you got lucky really. Liquid oxy is damn near heroin. It is considered hill billy heroin in fact. Anyways getting off opiates( not sure the withdrawal of meth) you will get sick! Agmotes said it nicely in his post. Your brain chemistry now needs these thing just to do what it normally does naturally. I brought up prozac because I have seen long time patients who have up and quit cold turkey. They seem to go thru some kind of with drawal. Not as bad as opiates but their brain chemistry was dependant on that drug to help make it function. Off of it they were spaced out and dizzy. Effexor from experience also had an addictive quality. Found that out on accident too. Dr. prescribed cause he thought I was depressed. Took them for a month and then said screw it and quit. I had some symptoms of withdrawal. Sweaty, ill feeling. Anyways, guess this getting drawn out. But I wanted to show the differences in addiction. Cigarettes are psychologically addicting. Although at a higher degree then cannabis. You can quit with out to much ill effect, but mentally your all messed up. Grumpy, hungary, etc. There are varying degrees in all addiction. And some people are tolerant to it as well. I wish I was one of them tolerant ones instead of an addictive personality!
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Re: WEED IS NOT ADDICTIVE. [Re: Tank333]
#558752 - 05/26/11 10:10 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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And you are right in doing so.
"Withdrawal symptoms are both physical and psychological."
Taken from http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000953.htm
I spoke before I thought!
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Re: WEED IS NOT ADDICTIVE. [Re: Tank333]
#558756 - 05/26/11 10:31 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nice!
I am also a smoker. For probably 24 years now! Gosh damn, when I actually just did the math I freaked out! My wife says my lungs must be charred!
Anyways, I have not really seriously tried to quit. I was forced to once in the hospital, but I started right away upon leaving. I was also getting fed ativan at a decent rate too. And had a patch. So I really do not have experience in this department.
I am glad you have been able to keeping quitting! Drinking I could drinking alcohol would be a hard thing to not have a smoke for me too! Since I regularly chase a drink with that nicotine. Same with after dinner! I usually go have a smoke directly afterward. I have gone a few hours at work with out smoking, but not long enough to brag about. So yes I can see both being a problem.
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Re: WEED IS NOT ADDICTIVE. [Re: Data]
#558767 - 05/26/11 11:08 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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It just made me sleep. I actually fell asleep while talking on the phone.
U may have been allergic to it. I have heard of people doing that on other things and trippig balls.
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Re: WEED IS NOT ADDICTIVE. [Re: Data]
#558772 - 05/26/11 11:45 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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I am wondering how the new synthetic cannabinoids are as far as addiction goes. I have tried a couple different blends and pure but have not ever smoked any long enough to know. THANK GOD!!! But as pleasurable as they seem, I could see them being a problem if you were to have a supply.? Some of them feel like the most intense cannabis high you could have. Being the natural(thc/cbs) one is psychological. I am kinda wondering if these synthetics being a full agonist of both receptors cb1 and cb2, will end up enslaving this generation of youngsters. Cannabis is only a partial agonist at CB1 receptors.
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