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 FunkyBlunts
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 Isomerisation 
#538637 - 03/21/11 06:11 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Has anyone else ever thought about or tried doing this?
Cannabinidol can be converted into THC by refluxing the oil with an acid.
The idea is that you could take common ditch weed or hemp and extract it to an oil with a solvent. This oil is then refluxed with a few drops of acid to convert it into THC.
Turning shit ditch weed or hemp into some high potency THC oil 
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mushhead91
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I personally like some CBD in my weed because im an anxious person and skunk will send me off into another fit of panic. But for the people who <3 their THC concentrated this sounds like a good science project for someone. :-)
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MushrooMan420
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 Re: Isomerisation [Re: mushhead91]
#538710 - 03/21/11 01:19 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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I am not familiar with the term Isomerisation but isn't that what one does when making making hash oil and tinctures?
If it is then yes.
If you want a top shelf product you will only get about a 15-20% yield when doing this...but its nice to have potent shit.
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FunkyBlunts
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Re: Isomerisation [Re: Canaman]
#538884 - 03/22/11 07:32 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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What I'm talking about is essentially synthesising THC from hemp oil.
The reason being - in many countries people can legally grow hemp or find it growing wild - IF my speculation is correct then theres a massive untapped source of THC that hasn't been recognised.
http://www.lycaeum.org/~sputnik/Drugs/THC/isomer1.html
The question is would it would on hemp?
It seems like it will definately work on ditch weed. People usually pick it - think its bunk and throw it away but with this method they could convert it into some potent smoke.
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Canaman
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well i know iso unlocks all thc agents and alkoids, u would need material with th in it, reguardless ime i dont know if hemp holds thc or not so time for quote wiwkipedia ""Cannabis sativa L. subsp. sativa var. sativa is the variety grown for industrial use, while C. sativa subsp. indica generally has poor fibre quality and is primarily used for production of recreational and medicinal drugs. The major difference between the two types of plants is the appearance and the amount of Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) secreted in a resinous mixture by epidermal hairs called glandular trichomes, although they can also be distinguished genetically.[14] Oilseed and fibre varieties of Cannabis approved for industrial hemp production produce only minute amounts of this psychoactive drug, not enough for any physical or psychological effects. Typically, hemp contains below 0.3% THC, while cultivars of Cannabis grown for marijuana can contain anywhere from 6 to over 20%"""
thus that being said too make anything out of hemp, you would need massive quantity's for extremely shitty product...like we are talking pound n pounds just too achieve an ounce of shitty product..
hope i helped....
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Canaman
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Re: Isomerisation [Re: Canaman]
#538887 - 03/22/11 08:26 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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o ya and iso oil is one of the most chemical marijuana products u can smoke, ading sulfuric acid and ya i dunno imo i wouldnt want too smoke it...prolly the reason its not too popular nowadays
ill quote ur article
"it becomes very potent and psychedelic"
why not just go buy hits of acid or eat mushroom keep your weed legit...interestin those hippies liked too trip balls
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Canaman
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Re: Isomerisation [Re: Canaman]
#538889 - 03/22/11 08:30 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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and even if u did this method would hemp, considering hemp is below 0.3%thc u would only achieve a 0.9 or below THC content in the oil..get where im going, so from reading i think this method was used too increase the oil made from weed not hemp
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Psuper
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Quote:
FunkyBlunts said:
Has anyone else ever thought about or tried doing this?
Cannabinidol can be converted into THC by refluxing the oil with an acid.
The idea is that you could take common ditch weed or hemp and extract it to an oil with a solvent. This oil is then refluxed with a few drops of acid to convert it into THC.
Turning shit ditch weed or hemp into some high potency THC oil
I've never done this process but from what I understand if you had your hands on some kind of high-CBD, but low-THC hemp or ditch variety cannabis as starting material then sure....but you have to have the CBD to begin with. Not sure how likely of a candidate american ditch-weed is for this.
Iam unsure if there are cannabinoids other than just CBD that are isomerized to THC...or rather, I think there are likely other cannabinoids that isomerize similar to CBD but are, as of yet, unidentified.
There is some good information from a couple or a few posters over on ICmag. Just can't imagine wanting to invest all the time and money into doing it though.
Do you have any chem. schooling or lab experience?
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Canaman
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Re: Isomerisation [Re: Psuper]
#539016 - 03/22/11 07:39 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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"Do you have any chem. schooling or lab experience? "
def a question too ask yourself before embarking in this
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Psuper
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Re: Isomerisation [Re: Canaman]
#539898 - 03/25/11 01:41 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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What you're talking about is NOT isomerization. Isopropyl does not isomerize any CBD into THC.
Also, this topic belongs in the Hash Forum.
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FunkyBlunts
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Re: Isomerisation [Re: Psuper]
#539914 - 03/25/11 05:23 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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You have to reflux the oil with a strong acid. Its a chemical process to convert the lower cannabinoids found in ditch weed into the higher cannabinoids that get you stoned.
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 Dr. Penguin
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Re: Isomerisation (moved) [Re: FunkyBlunts]
#541595 - 03/30/11 08:48 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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 This thread was moved from Marijuana Cultivation.
Reason:
Moved to the hash forum.
P.S. I like the idea, it would be cool to see someone experiment with this.
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OverDoseLiving
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Re: Isomerisation (moved) [Re: Dr. Penguin]
#545201 - 04/11/11 05:11 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ive thought about this before.
The process would be as tedioous as they come, even with proper equipment. But it wouldnt be too bad if you knew where to get the information you needed.
The thing is though, is isomerization reffers to taking a molecule and breaking it up and rearranging it in the same shape but just at a different angle. For example one might face right one might face left.
The hard part would be getting a pure delta9-thc sample. Cuse im not sure what or if you could isomerize any o the other cannabinoids, but i sure you can, that would be interesting and complicated just cuase theres so many. I think there are 16 possible diferent THC isomers. I think 13 is the most potent one something like 10-20 ties as potent as straighr delta 9 THC, which is pretty potent itself in its pure form..
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