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Re: advice on cloning techniques [Re: Pandor]
    #537477 - 03/16/11 07:03 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

first soak the rockwool cubes in 5.0 water. They come with a very high ph so soak them overnight in 5.0 to balance things out.

Take the cuttings and put them into the cubes. When the cubes need watered just dip them in water.


Cut the leaves in half. This will lower the need for water and the plants have no roots yet so they will be fine.


Wanna make it simple make a mushroom chamber and take the cuttings and put them in that then there will be no need to mist them.


Mist them 1 to 3 times a day (more if needed) but watch for rotting at the stem and any leaves that may be overlapping each other.




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Re: advice on cloning techniques [Re: RasJeph]
    #537629 - 03/17/11 01:03 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

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Magash said:
Wanna make it simple make a mushroom chamber and take the cuttings and put them in that then there will be no need to mist them.






Haha, thats exactly what I did. Recycling projects ftw!





Here is what I came up with for cloning in rockwool cubes (or any kind of cube for that matter)



So as many have heard I use to grow a shroom or two

Well a few years ago I came up with the Martha as some have heard soon after I came up with the Poor Man's Pod or PMP as it's called.

Well the first Martha proto type was this thing well I started thinking (and I'm amazed nobody did before) the needs for cuttings and shrooms are almost exactly the same. I firmly believe in constant airflow with shrooms and with cuttings which must be done without lowering humidity. This is of major importance cause it helps stop any kind of rot that may start.

Take your cutting using rockwool or cubes which I will show you both in a bit. Now take the cutting as normal taking a branch end about 4 inches long and taking off a leaf at the bottom of the 4 inches and cutting off the tip there. Dip in gel (I hear rootech works well) and mist it down good then into the chamber.   the cool mist runs 24/7 and the ultrasonic comes on for a hour and a half every 8 hrs. 

Now the ultrasonic does two things, it raises the humidity and it mist down the cuttings with a mist that is much finer them a shitty ass spray bottle. There are no droplets just a fine coat of mist. the last thing it does is it keeps you the fuck out. Stick the cuttings in and keep the humidifiers full. The ultrasonic should be hooked up above the cool mist outlet so the fog drops into the cool mist airstream and mixes good in the chamber air.

After a week cut the time down to 45 min every 3 hrs.

Then a few days after that or at the 10 day mark shut off the humidifiers and take off the top and let em get use to the light.

At the 14 day mark you should have

With this you can also take them any size you want and I am talking a branch if you want to. Here is a fairly good size one in a plug I was talking about earlier


Oh yeah I just cut hole in the top cover with plastic and stick some floros on top or if it gets hot put a couple 2x4's under em so air can flow under them.

Enjoy

One more thing you can use it to raise the little ones till you have room if needed


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Re: advice on cloning techniques [Re: Pandor]
    #537649 - 03/17/11 02:44 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

I keep em on a 18/6 like the vegging plants but to be honest both ways will work fine and to be honest I don't think either one is better then the other.


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Re: advice on cloning techniques [Re: BigBudz]
    #537768 - 03/18/11 12:35 AM (14 years, 21 days ago)

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I used to use rockwool, but it gets infected with mold quite easily compared to coco.


On rockwool?


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Make sure to not use a humidity dome in humid environments. I highly recommend against a humidity dome in general. This forces the plant to root faster, to take up nutrients from the root and not the leaves.


In theory it sound like this would be true but in real life times for rooting under domes or in in humid environments are just as fast as any other method.



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Re: advice on cloning techniques [Re: coda]
    #537787 - 03/18/11 06:24 AM (14 years, 21 days ago)

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I just need a couple more mothers. Everyone likes soil in the Bay; only posers grow in hydro these days. Hydro tastes like shit compared to soil and everyone in the Bay is a premium smoker. Hydro shit doesn't pass the test here man.




I'm in the bay also and have been dealing with the clubs in the area for over 10 years and this statement is completely untrue.


Here is a copy of a post I did over a year and a half ago. I did this in the Bay Area

Ok, I have been growing since the mid 80’s and the entire time I’ve heard how organic bud is better tasting and such. I always felt that this was true just cause when you listen to why it is suppose to be better then buds grown with synthetics or chemical nutrients it seems to make sense. Then I saw this show called bullshit with Penn and Teller and the subject was organic food. I saw the test that they did and I just had to do em with buds.
Well the test was done at 3 different clubs and with a group of growers in Mendocino County. The strain used was Granddaddy Purple.
People were allowed to try free samples of organic grown and buds grown with General Hydroponics nutrients. Flora Nova and Kool Blooms.
Now the samples
2 plates of buds with labels showing but the buds switched. Organic buds in the hydro plate and hydro buds in the organic plate. 2 plates with no labels and the buds were in the right plate. Then for fun (he he he ) two sets of plates one with organic buds in both plates and one with hydro buds in both plates.

The results.
Buds in the right plate but no labels showing  73% of people picked the hydro buds as better tasting and smoking buds.

Buds in the plates with the labels showing but with the buds switched 87% picked the organic side with the hydro buds in the plate. (Even so far as going and saying they can taste the soil then getting very pissed when shown the bud they picked)

Then the same buds divided into two and put into labeled plates. So what I mean here is buds from the same plant put into two plates with different labels to see if anybody would notice. In both sets of plates 87% of people again picked the Organic as better tasting in both sets even though it was the same bud divided into two plates. I heard comments on how the organic tasted “earthy, cleaner, less salty, and one who insisted that the organic buds burnt better then got pissed when told he picked hydro in every instance.

The only people who picked right were people who didn't care if grown organic or grown with raid ant killer as long as they got a free sample.


Both sets of buds were flushed for one week before harvesting.

Conclusion is that properly grown hydro buds seems to be as good in every way as organic buds.


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Re: advice on cloning techniques [Re: Magash]
    #537788 - 03/18/11 06:25 AM (14 years, 21 days ago)

In other words nobody on the planet can tell the difference between hydro and soil grown buds when both are grown right. Simple as that.


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