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Re: Time For Some "Gumby" Hash [Re: Canaman]
    #530564 - 02/25/11 01:51 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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put your ice into the 5gallon pale. Now put your shake n budz into the pale, fill the pale with cold water about 2\3rds full...





Amount of water would really just depend on amount of starting material; the above is more like a max. limit.

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Now if your lazy you can mix it with a drill, i prefer the ol fashion way, take your mixing paddle and start mixing for a good 15-20minutes...This is the most IMPORTANT step, do not under do this process.





I have trouble agreeing with this, or at least the wording of the statement- Overdoing the stirring step will result in contaminated hash, not more hash.  "Underdoing" the stirring step just means you need to run your starting material a second time.  There are bubblehash connoisseurs who are only hand-stirring there work-bag for 6-9minutes for the first run.

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Now put your bucket at a higher elevation and let it sit for 4 hours UNDISTURBED, this is very important that you do not tuch or bother the bucket as millions and millions of trichomes will be collecting at the bottom of the bucket...

After your 4 hours are over, sift out the liquid into your other bucket until about 1\2inch of liquid remain over your nice golden brown hash material, Now take your turkey baster and sift as much liquid with out tuching your material....





Most people sharing on the interwebz agree that 4hrs is too long for this step...I think it would be best to siphon that water out much, much sooner and if you're worried that you sucked up any hash, than simply run that water through 20μ-40μ mesh screen (only a few dollars from Amazon) to catch anything worth saving. 

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when you see its 70% dry, form your material into a ball...let it dry some more and work the ball again until u will eventually have a black ball of Gumby Hash....






Drying hash with light bulbs and pressing wet hash is all bad advice-- this really sounds like the worst possible way to go about drying water hash.  Cardboard is the way to go.

:ganja:  Now all that being said, your run looks great.  This method works great for people, I just think it's too bad that it is referred to so often as "gumby" hash, as if some guy on YouTube was the first person to conceive of this method--- which the guy actually does claim!  Bullcrap.  Then he doesn't even offer any sort of unique steps or advice.

Thanks for sharing your results.


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Re: Time For Some "Gumby" Hash [Re: Canaman]
    #530651 - 02/25/11 03:50 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I was just discussing the topic at hand, offering a critique, not trying to rip on ya or be rude.  :flowers:

I realize that the method is supposed to be as simple as possible and not use screens, so maybe you could say it was a bit funny of me to mention using a 20μ-40μ to drain all the siphoned water off-- but again, Iam just discussing ideas about your topic, not telling you off.  But really, you're already using a colander/strainer so what Iam proposing isn't any huge jump in reasoning.  The mesh screen I mentioned above would be the same price as a kitchen strainer anyways.

Iam actually planning on trying something similar in the next few weeks but with the addition of two screens and an actual drying/pressing screen (which is usually 25μ nylon mesh; a piece of real silk also works fine) which makes handling the wet hash much easier and allows excess water to drain.  So I was really interested to see your results...your final product looks great too. 

And I know it's not the same as running your material through bags, but I brought up my points because these are very basic principles were working with here in this method-- ice-hash, water-hash, bubblehash, "gumby", the isolation of the glandular heads of trichomes away from contaminants in H2O...



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o ya you dont do runs in this method, like i said you let gravity do the work read the process more carefully next time before you go posting a bunch of sillyness





I've read of folks doing a couple runs of the same starting material using the method you describe.

Gravity applies to a lot that we do...it applies in the same exact way to any water-hash method, unless maybe you were using some kind of as-of-yet uninvented vacuum system.  Gravity isn't one of the variables.


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Re: Time For Some "Gumby" Hash [Re: Cannasaurus]
    #539894 - 03/25/11 01:23 AM (14 years, 13 days ago)

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^^ How is cardboard the best way to dry water hash? How does that work?





The dry cardboard sucks moisture away from wet hash.  After a while you chop or break up the hash further into little crumbs.  It takes minimum 3 days to dry hash completely. 

If you're pressing hash while it is still wet it will take more hand-pressing to get excess moisture out.  It's also common to freeze hash balls/chunks than wipe the excess moisture off the surface.  Poorly stored it can even mold.


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I have a batch three hours into the four hour resting period...






A lot of folks who try this report back that it doesn't take this long to layer out.

If you're worried that the water being siphoned from above the settled trichome layer contains anything worth collecting you can run that collected water through a mesh filter with a size of somewhere around 20-30 microns.  But I've actually gone through the trouble of doing this and it is not necessary-- all the trichomes settle on the bottom before 60 minutes is up.  Just keep it cold.




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...I am trying to figure out what "sifting" the water out means but I think I get it. Basically getting hte water out without disturbing what has sunk to the bottom. Groovy.





Yeah, it's a strange choice of words, but you got it.


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