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 Tangerines
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Exactly. He may not "consider" himself an American, but that does not change the fact that nearly everyone in the world would consider him an American. Sounds like denial saying you aren't what nearly 100% of people consider you to be. That is like the Dr saying hey you have a multiple personalities and you saying no.
It's just a descriptive word that has many layers.
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kyuzo
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 Re: Are you really American?  [Re: Tangerines]
#524796 - 02/08/11 04:22 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Edited by kyuzo (02/08/11 04:24 PM)
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Re: Are you really American? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#524797 - 02/08/11 04:23 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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How can one actually be anything other than a human being? 
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Re: Are you really American? [Re: DeadHearts]
#524798 - 02/08/11 04:25 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was born in England and then moved to France when I was an infant, so my first words weren't even English, they were French. I moved to Australia when I was ~2y/o and both my parents were Australian citizens when I was born; even though my dad was born in New Zealand (He had been living in Australia for +30years). My dad got me a passport for Aus and the UK the day after I was born, so I can live in either country.
I still call myself Australian though, this is a cool place to live when I think about it, sure I don't agree with everything the Gov does, but I don't think I know anyone who does. I don't like the new generation of Australia though, its bigoted and violent and I try my best to not be apart of it.
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Tangerines
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Re: Are you really American? [Re: drawde]
#524799 - 02/08/11 04:25 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sure we are all human, but we are not all American, we are not all Tall, we are not all fat, we all do not have brown eyes. They are all descriptive words.
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kyuzo
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Re: Are you really American? [Re: drawde]
#524800 - 02/08/11 04:27 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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drawde said:
How can one actually be anything other than a human being?
why would you figure someone's humanity was invalidated by their national identity?
It's like asking if a Giraffe was still part of the animal kingdom.
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Re: Are you really American? [Re: Tangerines]
#524810 - 02/08/11 04:34 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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KaptKid said:
I'm a born and raised Texan.
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Tangerines said:
It doesn't matter what you consider. You are what surrounds you.
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Re: Are you really American? [Re: kyuzo]
#524823 - 02/08/11 04:45 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sounds like you figured I was figuring something I was not figuring nor was really implying such with the words. Read it again.
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Re: Are you really American? [Re: drawde]
#524824 - 02/08/11 04:47 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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He did take it into left field, but you trippin' nigga
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Re: Are you really American? [Re: Tangerines]
#524825 - 02/08/11 04:47 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tangerines said:
You are like a self hating black person.  Just because other people who are similar to you act like idiots you cannot stand being generalized along with the idiots into one lump sum.
Accept it you are an American. An American who doesn't agree with the idiots.
But I can go to fuckin Canada or where ever and gain the right to be a
citizen of that country if I please. Im am no more bound to the idea that
I am an american then I am bound to the idea that Im black even tho I am white haha.
Do I live in America? Yes. Do I have to consider myself an American?
Not at all. I do not just disagree with idiots but also well educated
arrogant pricks and that can be greatly generalized throughout the world
and also does not have to be bound to any specific region.
The whole shitshow is just another way to make divisions between the people.
And that is where so much trouble comes from. Actually thinking that we are
so much different that anyone else.
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Re: Are you really American? [Re: DeadHearts]
#524826 - 02/08/11 04:49 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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rofl
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Re: Are you really American? [Re: King Koopa]
#524828 - 02/08/11 04:50 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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King Koopa said:
rofl
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They should teach african engineering at the college level. mcgyver 101
Harry_Ba11sach said:
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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CrayolaHalls
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Re: Are you really American? [Re: DeadHearts]
#524869 - 02/08/11 05:42 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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DeadHearts said:
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Tangerines said:
You are like a self hating black person. Just because other people who are similar to you act like idiots you cannot stand being generalized along with the idiots into one lump sum.
Accept it you are an American. An American who doesn't agree with the idiots.
But I can go to fuckin Canada or where ever and gain the right to be a
citizen of that country if I please. Im am no more bound to the idea that
I am an american then I am bound to the idea that Im black even tho I am white haha.
Do I live in America? Yes. Do I have to consider myself an American?
Not at all. I do not just disagree with idiots but also well educated
arrogant pricks and that can be greatly generalized throughout the world
and also does not have to be bound to any specific region.
The whole shitshow is just another way to make divisions between the people.
And that is where so much trouble comes from. Actually thinking that we are
so much different that anyone else.
American does not imply anything permanent. Moving to, or becoming a citizen of, Canada will not change that you are an American. You will still be in North America. And even if you did go someplace that does not encompass the term American, you would still have been one.
It seems you are only creating a fictitious definition of America, the same way that politicians and ambitious speakers do. You are taking a relatively simple term and bastardizing it to include your own meanings.
Pretending that the word has no merit or only serves to cause social or spiritual division is bull shit too. It is still widely used in its correct form and, despite your personal beliefs, provides a functional description for those that need one.
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Re: Are you really American? [Re: CrayolaHalls]
#524873 - 02/08/11 05:47 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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To keep it as simple I believe quite the opposite.
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MFDoom666
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Re: Are you really American? [Re: DeadHearts]
#524885 - 02/08/11 06:10 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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michigan, lol.
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They should teach african engineering at the college level. mcgyver 101
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Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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Re: Are you really American? [Re: MFDoom666]
#524894 - 02/08/11 06:20 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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MFDoom666 said:
michigan, lol.
Nice man.
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MFDoom666
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Re: Are you really American? [Re: DeadHearts]
#524895 - 02/08/11 06:21 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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FurrowedBrow said:
They should teach african engineering at the college level. mcgyver 101
Harry_Ba11sach said:
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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kyuzo
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Re: Are you really American? [Re: drawde]
#524896 - 02/08/11 06:24 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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drawde said:
Sounds like you figured I was figuring something I was not figuring nor was really implying such with the words. Read it again.
I read your post again and it still seems to suggest one can't recognize national identity and shared humanity, at the same time
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kyuzo
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Re: Are you really American? [Re: DeadHearts]
#524899 - 02/08/11 06:31 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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DeadHearts said:
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Quote:
Tangerines said:
You are like a self hating black person. Just because other people who are similar to you act like idiots you cannot stand being generalized along with the idiots into one lump sum.
Accept it you are an American. An American who doesn't agree with the idiots.
But I can go to fuckin Canada or where ever and gain the right to be a
citizen of that country if I please. Im am no more bound to the idea that
I am an american then I am bound to the idea that Im black even tho I am white haha.
Do I live in America? Yes. Do I have to consider myself an American?
Not at all. I do not just disagree with idiots but also well educated
arrogant pricks and that can be greatly generalized throughout the world
and also does not have to be bound to any specific region.
The whole shitshow is just another way to make divisions between the people.
And that is where so much trouble comes from. Actually thinking that we are
so much different that anyone else.
People are extremely different, though
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Re: Are you really American? [Re: kyuzo]
#524901 - 02/08/11 06:36 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Let me ask you all what being "American" means to you??
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