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the man said:
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Yeah, might as well see if you can get a good pheno.  The trick with those is that GH just labeled a cross as "Bubba Kush" and "SLH" to sell beans, and they don't have anything in common with their namesake.

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By selfing a strain do mean taking one of these clone only strains and crossing it with itself by using sts treatments?

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Is the medical cannabis cup in LA gonna be held there annually?

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Magash said:
Some of them will. I imagine if they can call your doctor or verify your card somehow it shouldn't be a problem. Some clubs won't but getting a doctor to give you a med clearance is pretty damn easy. I have never heard of anybody being turned down for any reason.

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dmtcorey said:
if you want the real bubba kush ,drgreenthumb.com carrys it ,the original s 1,[cutting] with the coffee ,mocha flavors ~

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Remember that if you self a bubba kush that the seeds still are not bubba kush. Even selfed plants can show traits that are not in the strain but are part of the parents makeup.

As I've said before this is where breeders make money. There is no such thing as a strain called Bubba Kush, Granddaddy Purple, Purps, Trainwreck, Yadda yadda yadda they are the name of certain plants. The only way to get real Bubba, Granddaddy and the others is if you manage to get a cutting that came from the original plants.

Now the way they do it in Holland.
Somebody crosses Super Skunk with Wonder Woman and calls it super Girl. Now you go out and get Super Skunk seeds and grow them out and get some Wonder Woman seeds and grow them out. You manage to find two great females one of each strain. You cross them, do you have Super Girl? No, you have a knockoff. The only way to get Super Girl if is you have the original parent plants.

In other word in Cali it's common to name a plant that a person thinks is killer. What that means is say I grow out a killer Lavender plant. I decide that this one plant is gonna be called Mags Lavender Lady and start to give out cuttings of it. Somehow it manages to get around and wa-la a new med strain.

Now in Amsterdam its a little different. They tend to cross two parent plants and give the name to the entire batch of seeds that came from the parent plants that is why with their strains you get phenos. You buy AK-47 and some look like sativa and some look like indica and some in between.

You don't hear about phenos with the Cali med strains. There isn't a sativa leaning Granddaddy or Bubba or OG. Have two Granddaddy  plants and they don't look alike (common with Amsterdam strains) then one or both are not true Granddaddy.

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dmtcorey said:
if you want the real bubba kush ,drgreenthumb.com carrys it ,the original s 1,[cutting] with the coffee ,mocha flavors ~

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Remember that if you self a bubba kush that the seeds still are not bubba kush. Even selfed plants can show traits that are not in the strain but are part of the parents makeup.

As I've said before this is where breeders make money. There is no such thing as a strain called Bubba Kush, Granddaddy Purple, Purps, Trainwreck, Yadda yadda yadda they are the name of certain plants. The only way to get real Bubba, Granddaddy and the others is if you manage to get a cutting that came from the original plants.

Now the way they do it in Holland.
Somebody crosses Super Skunk with Wonder Woman and calls it super Girl. Now you go out and get Super Skunk seeds and grow them out and get some Wonder Woman seeds and grow them out. You manage to find two great females one of each strain. You cross them, do you have Super Girl? No, you have a knockoff. The only way to get Super Girl if is you have the original parent plants.

In other word in Cali it's common to name a plant that a person thinks is killer. What that means is say I grow out a killer Lavender plant. I decide that this one plant is gonna be called Mags Lavender Lady and start to give out cuttings of it. Somehow it manages to get around and wa-la a new med strain.

Now in Amsterdam its a little different. They tend to cross two parent plants and give the name to the entire batch of seeds that came from the parent plants that is why with their strains you get phenos. You buy AK-47 and some look like sativa and some look like indica and some in between.

You don't hear about phenos with the Cali med strains. There isn't a sativa leaning Granddaddy or Bubba or OG. Have two Granddaddy  plants and they don't look alike (common with Amsterdam strains) then one or both are not true Granddaddy.

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is what you mean by selfing,mean taking 2 cuts from the original mother and force one to make pollen and making fems with the identical cut?  this wont give you the identical pheno of the mother? what do you think the percentage of off spring will show that same pheno as the mother ? i had posted yesterday about this but nobody had commented !

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dmtcorey said:
if you want the real bubba kush ,drgreenthumb.com carrys it ,the original s 1,[cutting] with the coffee ,mocha flavors ~

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Remember that if you self a bubba kush that the seeds still are not bubba kush. Even selfed plants can show traits that are not in the strain but are part of the parents makeup.

As I've said before this is where breeders make money. There is no such thing as a strain called Bubba Kush, Granddaddy Purple, Purps, Trainwreck, Yadda yadda yadda they are the name of certain plants. The only way to get real Bubba, Granddaddy and the others is if you manage to get a cutting that came from the original plants.

Now the way they do it in Holland.
Somebody crosses Super Skunk with Wonder Woman and calls it super Girl. Now you go out and get Super Skunk seeds and grow them out and get some Wonder Woman seeds and grow them out. You manage to find two great females one of each strain. You cross them, do you have Super Girl? No, you have a knockoff. The only way to get Super Girl if is you have the original parent plants.

In other word in Cali it's common to name a plant that a person thinks is killer. What that means is say I grow out a killer Lavender plant. I decide that this one plant is gonna be called Mags Lavender Lady and start to give out cuttings of it. Somehow it manages to get around and wa-la a new med strain.

Now in Amsterdam its a little different. They tend to cross two parent plants and give the name to the entire batch of seeds that came from the parent plants that is why with their strains you get phenos. You buy AK-47 and some look like sativa and some look like indica and some in between.

You don't hear about phenos with the Cali med strains. There isn't a sativa leaning Granddaddy or Bubba or OG. Have two Granddaddy  plants and they don't look alike (common with Amsterdam strains) then one or both are not true Granddaddy.

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