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 pheed
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 Re: using MH light for seedlings?  [Re: jkell]
#502553 - 12/02/10 11:47 AM (14 years, 26 days ago) |
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jkell said:
http://www.marijuana-seeds.nl/jack_herer_seeds.html
http://www.weed-seeds.net/jack_herer_seeds.html
http://strainreview.com/jack-herrer/
I see mostly sativa
Yeah well, go to the Green House Seed Company subforum at icmag, and you'll see lots of people complaining about GHSC Jack often being more indica than sativa, with pictures to prove it. And here's a quote from GHSC's Franco himself, trying to explain why:
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no way. JH is a sativa indica cross. The original from Sensi was never sativa dominant....
there were several sativa doiminant phenos around in the late 1990s and early 2000s, because people isolated those as mothers (proice per kg higher in the Dam...), but if you got 1000 seeds and check for variations, more than 50% are sat-ind very balanced 50/50, some sativa dom and some indica dom (and yours is for sure more towards the indica dom)
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 maryanne3087
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Re: using MH light for seedlings? [Re: pheed]
#502585 - 12/02/10 02:36 PM (14 years, 25 days ago) |
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I don't trust Franco's or Jack's or whomever else explaining such things.
Jack Herer isn't the first seedline they fucked up on stealing. SuperSilverHaze, Neville's Haze, and El Nino are all clearly not what they're supposed to be. For example El Nino aka La Nina from Mr.Nice seed company was originally an extremely sativa leaning hybrid (80% sativa) and still is at Mr.Nice any bs that they say about having the original P1's wouldn't mean shit because they would need to select a F1 to play the role as one of pollen donors the best they could do if they had available to them is use seedstock (or clones if kept) and find a female sibling of the male components to make the most genuine F1 feminised seeds of old varieties.
The reason why Jack Herer from GHSco is indica dom is probably because they breed with a small ass population likely 2 parental mothers (as it's feminised) limiting the number of phenotypes available // % of expression instead of using larger populations which would yield more variety in phenotype expression.
IMO when ripping off a line and doing it right you either need to take the F1 seed and breed a few generations until you have two or more true breeding phenotypes and that will result in similar to F1 status. With Jack Herer I'd personally try to isolate a fat indica dom and an extreme sativa phenotype and see how a crossing at F3-F5 would preform.
Another option would be to breed large populations keeping all of the phenotypes within the seed line.
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Magash
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Re: using MH light for seedlings? [Re: maryanne3087]
#502713 - 12/02/10 10:37 PM (14 years, 25 days ago) |
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You know you guys can just go to Sensi and get the info on the strain
The cream of the crops and perhaps the most exquisite ganja you will ever encounter; this strain ranks as the most awarded variety in the history of harvest festivals. Nine awards and counting would be the pinnacle of recognition for any strain, yet Jack Herer manages to go a step further and bears the distinction of being distributed under prescription by Dutch pharmacies as a recognised variety of medicinal-grade cannabis.
Sensi’s champagne of strains is named in honour of Jack Herer, author of The Emperor Wears No Clothes. Through tireless activism and his landmark book, Jack Herer can take most of the credit for reminding the world that cannabis in all its forms has always been one of humankind’s most valuable resources, and that we can literally save the planet with hemp!
The sublime blend of tropical Sativa high and monstrous Indica resin production captured in Jack Herer must be seen and sampled to be believed. At their peak, buds are so thickly smothered with clear trichomes that they appear sugar-frosted or sparkling with dew-drops. This crystal-coating extends to spear-leaves, fan leaves and even to Jack’s stems and stalks.
Plants from seed show favourable variation, due to Jack Herer’s complex background and delicate balance right at the cusp of Sativa and Indica. Enhanced features from both sides of the family are strongly evident and are expressed in different combinations, allowing growers to select mother plants tailored to their circumstances and tastes.
Three of Jack’s four main phenotypes are heavily Sativa-influenced while the fourth has a growth pattern leaning towards Indica - fast-flowering and relatively compact with a dense, expansive, rounded bud structure that’s suited to cash-cropping. Jack’s Sativa phenotypes can also produce a good per-metre or per-plant yield when cultivated skilfully, though it is rare for these crops to be sold commercially. Most growers who have watched their succulent, super-sized calyxes swell and mature will be hesitant to sell such buds, and the best Jack Herer is often passed around a select circle of friends - an example of one of those things that money just can’t buy.
The trait common to all Jack Herer phenotypes is a dazzling double-edged potency - a stratospheric cerebral high underpinned by a breathtaking body-buzz with seismic power. Smokers should be prepared to feel the earth shake beneath their feet - which can be a very pleasant feeling when your head is firmly in the clouds.
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maryanne3087
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Re: using MH light for seedlings? [Re: Magash]
#502768 - 12/03/10 12:06 PM (14 years, 25 days ago) |
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That doesn't tell you much about the GHSco version rip off.
Which is apparently Haze x Red Skunk.
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