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 maryanne3087
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 Re: Grafting to root stock; growing weed like Apples  [Re: jkell]
#499896 - 11/21/10 11:28 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I read this post an watched that video and I going to have to agree with Lays. If you give an auto a root system of a mother that is well established how wouldn't the auto get bigger than normal. It seems like common sense. The lifetime of an auto is limited so imagine if you were able to skip all the seedling/root establishing stage and jump right into vegging with a great root system, the plant would in theory shoot up. Seems kinda like common sense to me.
Autos don't veg, they go into flower after a few days after germination, well before you can graft them.
Grafting a auto wouldn't make it veg longer either.
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Re: Grafting to root stock; growing weed like Apples [Re: maryanne3087]
#500121 - 11/22/10 04:46 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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how long does it take a graft to get into full growing speed???
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Re: Grafting to root stock; growing weed like Apples [Re: maryanne3087]
#500155 - 11/22/10 07:06 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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maryanne3087 said:
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jkell said:
I read this post an watched that video and I going to have to agree with Lays. If you give an auto a root system of a mother that is well established how wouldn't the auto get bigger than normal. It seems like common sense. The lifetime of an auto is limited so imagine if you were able to skip all the seedling/root establishing stage and jump right into vegging with a great root system, the plant would in theory shoot up. Seems kinda like common sense to me.
Autos don't veg, they go into flower after a few days after germination, well before you can graft them.
Grafting a auto wouldn't make it veg longer either.
That's what I was tryin to say.
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Re: Grafting to root stock; growing weed like Apples [Re: maryanne3087]
#500591 - 11/24/10 02:49 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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So as long as I kept all the branches labeled, I could have one mother plant that produced clones for multiple strains?! That's awesome!
Even if the branches weren't labeled, your mother plant would still produce clones for multiple strains.
OMG! You mean these aren't "magic labels" like the guy at the hydro store told me!?
Jesus christ, you must think I'm a retard, don't you? Of course the branches will continue to produce the same strain even if you don't label them. But if you don't, you're quite likely to forget which branch was what strain.
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Re: Grafting to root stock; growing weed like Apples [Re: Tank333]
#500593 - 11/24/10 02:55 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was pointing out your implication makes you look like a retard.
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Re: Grafting to root stock; growing weed like Apples [Re: maryanne3087]
#500595 - 11/24/10 03:06 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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My implication? What? That suggesting that by grafting and labeling his mother, a medical patient who grows his own medicine can grow multiple strains on the same mother, thus saving him valuable plant slots that he could use for his crops instead of having extra mothers? How the hell does that make me look like a retard? You pointing out that the labels don't have to be there for the plant to continue doing this was superfluous and rude. You may know what you're talking about most of the time, but you're one hell of a troll!
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Re: Grafting to root stock; growing weed like Apples [Re: maryanne3087]
#500938 - 11/26/10 08:06 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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maryanne3087 said:
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jkell said:
I read this post an watched that video and I going to have to agree with Lays. If you give an auto a root system of a mother that is well established how wouldn't the auto get bigger than normal. It seems like common sense. The lifetime of an auto is limited so imagine if you were able to skip all the seedling/root establishing stage and jump right into vegging with a great root system, the plant would in theory shoot up. Seems kinda like common sense to me.
Autos don't veg, they go into flower after a few days after germination, well before you can graft them.
Grafting a auto wouldn't make it veg longer either.
Have you grown an auto mary?
Don't think you have or you would know you have plenty of time to graft it.
And if you can graft seedlings then that's even better.
heres an example day 39 just starting to show flowers
I don't consider 5 and a half weeks to be a few days after germination.
The finished plant even looks like it grew taller while in flowering also.
1 week off for grafting for about 4 weeks of what should be faster growth. Sounds like it should grow a shitload more than normal to me (in cact a small scion gets near 1 years growth in a month, even though this is probably a bit different).
Here's another quote from someone that posted on the day 49 vid
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the other 1 started flowering at day 55 ,it didnt grow any higher after it started to flower im now at day 107 and is still not ready,
I have also seen a strain start at like 14 days, think it was the dwarf. Depends on genetics most likely, but as you can see there is plenty of time.
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Edited by Laysthepipe (11/26/10 05:04 PM)
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Re: Grafting to root stock; growing weed like Apples [Re: Laysthepipe]
#501139 - 11/27/10 09:54 AM (14 years, 30 days ago) |
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This is humboldt coffee talk.
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Re: Grafting to root stock; growing weed like Apples [Re: Ero42oH2o]
#501194 - 11/27/10 02:43 PM (14 years, 30 days ago) |
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I think that some autos veg for a few weeks. Any has anybody thought of the practical application of grafting an indica to a sativa rootstock for a guerrilla grow?
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Re: Grafting to root stock; growing weed like Apples [Re: SmOakland]
#501313 - 11/27/10 11:24 PM (14 years, 29 days ago) |
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SmOakland said:
I think that some autos veg for a few weeks. Any has anybody thought of the practical application of grafting an indica to a sativa rootstock for a guerrilla grow?
This would be cool if you like..
Let the sativa plant get like 2ft tall then cut the cola and graft an indica to the cola, maybe let the sativa get taller.
Then you'd have indica buds on top finish early, and you can harvest the sativa buds a few weeks later that are near the bottom of the plant.
Not sure why not just have two plants though in this situation unless you just want one plant if its in your yard or something.
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Re: Grafting to root stock; growing weed like Apples [Re: Laysthepipe]
#501479 - 11/28/10 04:18 PM (14 years, 29 days ago) |
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Was i not clear? My idea was to plant a sativa, cut it off below all nodes and graft an indica onto it before transplanting it in the wild/woods/secret place where it would need to receive some water from natural sources.
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Re: Grafting to root stock; growing weed like Apples [Re: SmOakland]
#501487 - 11/28/10 04:39 PM (14 years, 28 days ago) |
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go do it, and get back with me.
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Re: Grafting to root stock; growing weed like Apples [Re: SmOakland]
#501488 - 11/28/10 04:40 PM (14 years, 28 days ago) |
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SmOakland said:
Was i not clear? My idea was to plant a sativa, cut it off below all nodes and graft an indica onto it before transplanting it in the wild/woods/secret place where it would need to receive some water from natural sources.
Are you talking about helping to alleviate some physiological discrepancy between the two plants like water requirements? If so, such disparities involve more than simple root structure
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Re: Grafting to root stock; growing weed like Apples [Re: kyuzo]
#501505 - 11/28/10 05:24 PM (14 years, 28 days ago) |
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kyuzo said:
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SmOakland said:
Was i not clear? My idea was to plant a sativa, cut it off below all nodes and graft an indica onto it before transplanting it in the wild/woods/secret place where it would need to receive some water from natural sources.
Are you talking about helping to alleviate some physiological discrepancy between the two plants like water requirements? If so, such disparities involve more than simple root structure
I was just wondering. Do you have any actual explanation as to why such a method would not have a practical application?
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Re: Grafting to root stock; growing weed like Apples [Re: SmOakland]
#501512 - 11/28/10 05:47 PM (14 years, 28 days ago) |
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SmOakland said:
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kyuzo said:
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SmOakland said:
Was i not clear? My idea was to plant a sativa, cut it off below all nodes and graft an indica onto it before transplanting it in the wild/woods/secret place where it would need to receive some water from natural sources.
Are you talking about helping to alleviate some physiological discrepancy between the two plants like water requirements? If so, such disparities involve more than simple root structure
I was just wondering. Do you have any actual explanation as to why such a method would not have a practical application?
My comment was concerning the fact that the root system isn't the lone determining factor for water requirements. Could it be beneficial? There's a possibility that it might be; depending on what exactly you were trying to do, and if the net benefit outweighed the stress caused by grafting.
But then again, I'm not sure there would be any benefit to grafting a rose bush onto the root system of a cactus (if it was possible), being that the main water saving systems of the cactus are in the actual plant, and not the roots
Edited by kyuzo (11/28/10 05:48 PM)
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Re: Grafting to root stock; growing weed like Apples [Re: SmOakland]
#501516 - 11/28/10 06:22 PM (14 years, 28 days ago) |
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SmOakland said:
Was i not clear? My idea was to plant a sativa, cut it off below all nodes and graft an indica onto it before transplanting it in the wild/woods/secret place where it would need to receive some water from natural sources.
Yea you were clear but doesn't make sense really.
Whats the deal with sativa roots? Why not just keep the indica roots?
Unless your going to cut down a 25 foot bush to graft onto, then it would be understandable, huge root system, otherwise, I don't see why not just keep an indica.
Planted at the same time I would think both the indica and sativas roots shouldn't be too different in size (atleast not until the sativa is a beast, and I don't think anyone would want to cut down a sativa larger than them at the base to graft an indica to it), So I don't see where you are going with this one.
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Edited by Laysthepipe (11/28/10 08:35 PM)
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Re: Grafting to root stock; growing weed like Apples [Re: Laysthepipe]
#501613 - 11/29/10 09:22 AM (14 years, 28 days ago) |
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Sativas have larger sprawling root systems. I would think they would continue to grow very large even if they had a relatively small indica grafted onto them. Big root system + small plant means you will need to water it less.
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Re: Grafting to root stock; growing weed like Apples [Re: SmOakland]
#501682 - 11/29/10 03:49 PM (14 years, 28 days ago) |
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i've heard u can graft to tomatoes.. use their roots
Edited by wholesheet (11/29/10 03:50 PM)
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Re: Grafting to root stock; growing weed like Apples [Re: wholesheet]
#501685 - 11/29/10 03:59 PM (14 years, 28 days ago) |
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i've heard u can graft to tomatoes.. use their roots
Doubt it. Hops maybe, tomatoes no.
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Re: Grafting to root stock; growing weed like Apples [Re: SmOakland]
#501699 - 11/29/10 05:11 PM (14 years, 27 days ago) |
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SmOakland said:
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i've heard u can graft to tomatoes.. use their roots
Doubt it. Hops maybe, tomatoes no.
Worth a try with shitty seeds to see if it works, I might try in spring just to see if it works then kill the plant, I won't grow outside until the plants legal so it'd just be a quick test.
It depends, I don't think I have many green zebra seeds left though and it sucks when I moved I had one with about 30 tomatoes on it I had to leave behind because it was straight in the ground. This year I am getting some damn green zebras, I have wanted to for two years now.
Tomato plant stems are pretty damned weak though and normally need support.
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