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 DungenessDank
Lord of the Flies
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Stoners that did vote were probably split 50%
California's lucrative medical marijuana industry was prop 19's biggest hope, and also it's ultimate down fall.
Legalization has better chances in places where there isn't already a large industry in place.
I'm looking at you Colorado.
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 Cid_Lives
Shhhhh
Registered: 09/03/10
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I agree that with every defeat comes some small amount of victory, but damn, what a windfall. I was really thinking that prop 19 and 203 both had great chances. Majority voter turnout for midterm elections is in the elderly demographic. Younger voters generally have a higher turnout rate for main elections, so there is some hope for 2012. I'm pretty sick about the republicans taking the house, though.
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Magash
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Registered: 04/21/08
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Quote:
DungenessDank said:
Stoners that did vote were probably split 50%
California's lucrative medical marijuana industry was prop 19's biggest hope, and also it's ultimate down fall.
Legalization has better chances in places where there isn't already a large industry in place.
I'm looking at you Colorado.
Fully agree, the fact that prop 19 failed in both Humboldt and Mendocino counties proves that.
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DungenessDank
Lord of the Flies
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 Re: Prop 19  [Re: Cid_Lives]
#494633 - 11/03/10 10:20 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's a way of life for people, and legalization right now when the economy is so bad would potentially shake a lot of peoples lives up (not to say they wouldn't recover in time), I can see why the vote went the way it did.
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psyberpunk
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Registered: 11/02/10
Posts: 533
Loc: Behind a Pipe
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I have to say though: Fuck the greedy assholes in Humboldt and Mendocino for voting to put more marijuana users in jail. Elitist fucking scumbags.
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DungenessDank
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A guy can't survive as a logger, fisherman, contractor, or a farmer these days, what else are they supposed to do, move away?
I can't pool everyone who voted No as greedy.
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Steve Buscemi
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Oh well, you can still smoke all the weed you want here in Cali. Just a bummer it will continue to cost $20 a gram. Medical patients can still grow more weed than proposed in prop 19 and marijuana stores are alive and well for now.
Now I think I'll ride down to the pot store and score some pot........ wait medicine, yep medicine.
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psyberpunk
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Registered: 11/02/10
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Loc: Behind a Pipe
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They can keep doing the same thing. They just won't have a monopoly. This is an extremely greedy and corrupt attitude that matches that of bankers, the military, etc. They're basically saying, "WE are going to have the monopoly on marijuana," just like banks have the monopoly on money and the military has the monopoly on violence. "WE are the only ones allowed to grow marijuana. If you grow marijuana in your own home instead of buying Humboldt or Mendocino marijuana from established illegal growers, you should go to jail."
Every single drug dealer in California deserves to be shot today.
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Shr0000ooooms
Cannabis Sampler
Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 3,870
Loc: Hindu Kush Mountains
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Re: Prop 19 [Re: DRAGON]
#494664 - 11/03/10 12:48 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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I haven't checked to see if it passed yet, but I already know it didn't.
Honestly we're not gonna having legal weed in all states until AT LEAST 2020 and that's pushing it.
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FurrowedBrow
Free yourself from yourself
Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 12,045
Loc: Carpal Tunnel
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Quote:
DungenessDank said:
Stoners that did vote were probably split 50%
California's lucrative medical marijuana industry was prop 19's biggest hope, and also it's ultimate down fall.
Legalization has better chances in places where there isn't already a large industry in place.
I'm looking at you Colorado.
There will be a ballot initiative in 2012 in Colorado to legalize it. Hopefully, I will be living up there in 2011 so i can actually get involved as a voter. But also, in regard to your comment, i think the pot market up there is pretty well saturated atm. It really really mushroomed up after the medical thing passed.
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Far Stox
Higher Education
Registered: 09/19/10
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I think the most disappointing part about losing Prop 19 is the fact that our prison systems will continue to remain overcrowded with mostly non-violent offenders who were unfairly prosecuted for MJ. I know it wouldn't change much for people outside of CA, but I truly believe there was potential for this to affect the rest of the nation and hopefully turn the tides against prohibition.
Oh well. Maybe we'll have a better outcome the next time legalization comes to a vote, whenever that is.
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drawde
Registered: 11/15/09
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Re: Prop 19 [Re: Far Stox]
#494772 - 11/03/10 05:10 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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I really wonder how this would of turned out had that decriminalization not have happened. Perhaps there was a portion of the voter base that just said, well its decriminalized so that will keep a lot of people out of jail and a burden on the tax payer so thats all I really care about.
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Badfish
Fire in the Bowl!
Registered: 10/26/10
Posts: 160
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Re: Prop 19 [Re: drawde]
#494780 - 11/03/10 05:23 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm over the failure of Proposition 19 like a terrible dream. As long as I can continue to smoke with nothing changed for the worse.
There's always chances for legalization in 2012. 
Nonetheless, I now can toke up without having the pollution of campaign ads overwhelming the enjoyments in life. 
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Cid_Lives
Shhhhh
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Re: Prop 19 [Re: Far Stox]
#494837 - 11/03/10 08:39 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Far Stox said:
I think the most disappointing part about losing Prop 19 is the fact that our prison systems will continue to remain overcrowded with mostly non-violent offenders who were unfairly prosecuted for MJ. I know it wouldn't change much for people outside of CA, but I truly believe there was potential for this to affect the rest of the nation and hopefully turn the tides against prohibition.
I agree 100% with what you said. That was my main reason for wanting mj legalized. People being locked up with the likes of murderers, rapists, and other violent offenders for weed is not justice. It never has been. It is a slap in the face of justice, to be honest.
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