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 Cid_Lives
Shhhhh
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 Security of these sites... 
#488613 - 10/16/10 09:05 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have been a member at this site and the shroomery for years, well at the shroomery anyway. Anyhow, I sometimes get paranoid about being watched at these 2 sites. I don't have anything major going on, but I still smoke and get a plant or 2 going here and there. Nothing serious. Still, I get worked up seeing threads deleted because of peeps getting visits from the cops and all. It happens a lot, it seems. I know I'm probably over analyzing everything, but what if?
Sorry?
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Shr0000ooooms
Cannabis Sampler
Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 3,870
Loc: Hindu Kush Mountains
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 Re: Security of these sites... [Re: Cid_Lives]
#488618 - 10/16/10 09:16 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not paranoid about cops or anything, but hey I don't even grow.
I just smoke occasionally.
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 Smokey the Bear
Very Smokey
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Re: Security of these sites... [Re: Shr0000ooooms] 1
#488632 - 10/16/10 09:50 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hard to go after someone for what they do on websites for "educational purposes" when there are bigger fish to fry
If you want more security look into tools that help you surf anonymously.
PeerGuardian
TOR
Proxify
Anonymizer
firefox has a lot of addons for this as well
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Magash
The Feminizer
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If they were watching this site or the Shroomery I'd imagine I'd have been gone years ago. 
 
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Re: Security of these sites... [Re: Magash]
#488642 - 10/16/10 10:17 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would definitely be paranoid about posting grows
Moreso on the Shroomery. Back in the day I was growing quite a bit and production of psilocybin gets you 5-10 years here. When you have that in the back of your mind, you are always a little paranoid.
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King Koopa
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Quote:
Smokey the Bear said:
Hard to go after someone for what they do on websites for "educational purposes" when there are bigger fish to fry
If you want more security look into tools that help you surf anonymously.
PeerGuardian
TOR
Proxify
Anonymizer
firefox has a lot of addons for this as well
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Alcoholics Anonymous is a fellowship of men and women who share their experience, strength and hope with each other that they may solve their common problem and help others to recover from alcoholism.
The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking. There are no dues or fees for A.A. membership; we are self-supporting through our own contributions. A.A. is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organization or institution; does not wish to engage in any controversy; neither endorses nor opposes any causes. Our primary purpose is to stay sober and help other alcoholics to achieve sobriety.
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Shr0000ooooms
Cannabis Sampler
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Re: Security of these sites... [Re: Magash]
#488644 - 10/16/10 10:29 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Magash said:
If they were watching this site or the Shroomery I'd imagine I'd have been gone years ago.
I'd love to have your job.
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Smokey the Bear
Very Smokey
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Re: Security of these sites... [Re: King Koopa]
#488645 - 10/16/10 11:07 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
King Koopa said:
Quote:
Smokey the Bear said:
Hard to go after someone for what they do on websites for "educational purposes" when there are bigger fish to fry
If you want more security look into tools that help you surf anonymously.
PeerGuardian
TOR
Proxify
Anonymizer
firefox has a lot of addons for this as well
? all good tools for surfing anonymous and keeping your personal info private. just a suggestion if he is worrying
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Critical/White Rhino
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Cid_Lives
Shhhhh
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I mean, I am already viewing both sites through a proxy, I just have moments where I think, "Should I really be posting this?" Then, I come to the ultimate decision everytime that I am really not doing anything wrong. If they are gonna waste the resources to track me down over a couple of plants and some personal herb, then that is just fucking sad.
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NizzyJones
Fight Evil with Funk
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Re: Security of these sites... [Re: Cid_Lives]
#488767 - 10/17/10 11:02 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Think about it this way: Unless you give a fairly specific location they have no immediate way of knowing where you are. If they don't know where you are they have no way of knowing if they have jurisdiction over your case. If they don't have jurisdiction they can't charge you. Therefore it's a colossal waste of their time to scan through grow logs looking for someone within their jurisdiction to prosecute. Security through obscurity at it's finest.
/Sometimes we forget the internet is INTERnational 
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drawde
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Re: Security of these sites... [Re: NizzyJones]
#488771 - 10/17/10 11:07 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well said NJ.
Love the sig smokey. 
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kyuzo
Stranger Than Fiction
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Re: Security of these sites... [Re: NizzyJones]
#488785 - 10/17/10 11:52 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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NizzyJones said:
Think about it this way: Unless you give a fairly specific location they have no immediate way of knowing where you are. If they don't know where you are they have no way of knowing if they have jurisdiction over your case. If they don't have jurisdiction they can't charge you. Therefore it's a colossal waste of their time to scan through grow logs looking for someone within their jurisdiction to prosecute. Security through obscurity at it's finest.
/Sometimes we forget the internet is INTERnational
<<<An international investigation code-named Operation Raw Deal that culminated in the last four days could produce the next steroids scandal in sports – and perhaps the biggest yet.
The undercover operation led by the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration resulted in the seizure of massive amounts of anabolic steroids from an illegal underground network and the ability to identify hundreds of thousands of people who received steroids and other substances used by some athletes as performance-enhancing drugs, a DEA spokesman told Yahoo! Sports on Sunday.
Most of the raids took place in the United States, and the DEA called the steroids crackdown the largest in U.S. history. DEA offices in New York and San Diego provided lead guidance during an investigation that resulted in 124 arrests and seizures at 56 labs across the country. Investigators also seized 71 weapons, 27 pill presses, 25 vehicles and three boats, but the coveted item was illegal drugs, and the DEA said it intercepted a staggering quantity. ...
...Typically, DEA investigations focus on drug suppliers and dealers. But now that the DEA has the ability to identify the largest numbers of people who received illegal shipments of drugs during Operation Raw Deal, Payne said, "If you are one of those people, you could get a knock at your door."
U.S. officials enlisted the help of China and eight other countries in an investigation targeting more than 35 Chinese companies that produce raw materials used to make steroids and HGH and, in some cases, finished product, sold illegally on the global underground network, Payne said. ...
...The Internet has emerged as a popular source for those seeking performance-enhancing drugs without the required prescription, prompting Operation Raw Deal to employ a four-pronged strategy. The investigation targeted U.S.-based web sites that distribute materials such as conversion kits necessary to turn raw steroid powders into finished product; Internet body building discussion boards that teach individuals how to use, locate and discreetly purchase steroids; raw material manufacturers and suppliers in China and other countries; and underground steroids labs in the United States, Canada and Mexico. ..
...In addition to steroids and HGH, the operation targeted Insulin Growth Factor and underground trafficking of ancillary and counterfeit medications. Other drugs seized included cocaine, marijuana, Ecstasy, painkillers, anti-anxiety medications and Viagra.
The DEA lauded Chinese officials for their participation in the effort, but whether China disciplines the manufacturers or discloses information remains to be seen. U.S. officials provided Chinese authorities with information packets about more than 35 Chinese companies that allegedly supplied raw materials for steroids, HGH and other performance-enhancing drugs and are involved in the illicit underground trade around the world. But U.S. officials will withhold the names of those companies in deference to China. ...>>>
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=jo-steroids092407
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NizzyJones
Fight Evil with Funk
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Re: Security of these sites... [Re: kyuzo]
#488786 - 10/17/10 11:55 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do you not see the difference between websites actually selling illegal things and a message board?
Because I don't see how that's relevant to what I said.
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NizzyJones
Fight Evil with Funk
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Re: Security of these sites... [Re: NizzyJones]
#488788 - 10/17/10 11:59 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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To elucidate: in one of those situations the website itself is acting in furtherance of a criminal conspiracy.
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King Koopa
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Quote:
Smokey the Bear said:
Quote:
King Koopa said:
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Smokey the Bear said:
Hard to go after someone for what they do on websites for "educational purposes" when there are bigger fish to fry
If you want more security look into tools that help you surf anonymously.
PeerGuardian
TOR
Proxify
Anonymizer
firefox has a lot of addons for this as well
? all good tools for surfing anonymous and keeping your personal info private. just a suggestion if he is worrying
These tools will not protect you from curious eyes.
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Alcoholics Anonymous is a fellowship of men and women who share their experience, strength and hope with each other that they may solve their common problem and help others to recover from alcoholism.
The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking. There are no dues or fees for A.A. membership; we are self-supporting through our own contributions. A.A. is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organization or institution; does not wish to engage in any controversy; neither endorses nor opposes any causes. Our primary purpose is to stay sober and help other alcoholics to achieve sobriety.
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kyuzo
Stranger Than Fiction
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Re: Security of these sites... [Re: NizzyJones]
#488790 - 10/17/10 12:00 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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<<<..The Internet has emerged as a popular source for those seeking performance-enhancing drugs without the required prescription, prompting Operation Raw Deal to employ a four-pronged strategy. The investigation targeted U.S.-based web sites that distribute materials such as conversion kits necessary to turn raw steroid powders into finished product; ***Internet body building discussion boards that teach individuals how to use, locate and discreetly purchase steroids***; raw material manufacturers and suppliers in China and other countries; and underground steroids labs in the United States, Canada and Mexico. ..>>>
I know a few people who had to deal with search warrants, confiscated computers, and subpoenas from the raw deal investigation, based on nothing more than their participation in forums
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Smokey the Bear
Very Smokey
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Re: Security of these sites... [Re: drawde]
#488831 - 10/17/10 12:55 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
drawde said:
Love the sig smokey.
Thanks a little time in Photoshop works wonders 
@koopa those tools wont protect you from some deep intrusion but they are at least more layers of security. PeerGuardian even has a government/LE IP blocklist but like you said serious intruders could get through.
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still beLIEve
State Property..Again
Registered: 04/20/08
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Re: Security of these sites... [Re: King Koopa]
#489143 - 10/18/10 09:09 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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King Koopa said:
Quote:
Smokey the Bear said:
Quote:
King Koopa said:
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Smokey the Bear said:
Hard to go after someone for what they do on websites for "educational purposes" when there are bigger fish to fry
If you want more security look into tools that help you surf anonymously.
PeerGuardian
TOR
Proxify
Anonymizer
firefox has a lot of addons for this as well
? all good tools for surfing anonymous and keeping your personal info private. just a suggestion if he is worrying
These tools will not protect you from curious eyes.
TOR will for the most part. shits pretty secure.
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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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Don King
Keep it in the Ring
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Re: Security of these sites... [Re: still beLIEve]
#489192 - 10/18/10 02:52 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, more than likely catch you on the streets than on the internet. Depends on what you're doing too.
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Edited by Don King (10/18/10 03:00 PM)
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kyuzo
Stranger Than Fiction
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Re: Security of these sites... [Re: Don King]
#489396 - 10/19/10 07:22 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Don King said:
Yeah, more than likely catch you on the streets than on the internet. Depends on what you're doing too.
Surely, but I rather use some common sense and play it safe
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Farmer Joe
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Re: Security of these sites... [Re: Cid_Lives]
#489412 - 10/19/10 08:19 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Don't grow where you live. Plain and simple.
Then there's no need for paranoia!
Why would you be so worried about a plant or two anyway? I don't know how things are for you where you're at, but in my state it's only a fine for a few plants. 99 or less and you still won't get arrested. If weed's all ur cultivating I wouldn't worry about it man.
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Cid_Lives
Shhhhh
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Re: Security of these sites... [Re: Farmer Joe]
#489487 - 10/19/10 03:30 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Like I said earlier in the thread, I just always over think everything and get the tin foil hat paranoia going. I'm really not worried. The small space that I have set up is super secure, too. My mind just works against me sometimes.
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Farmer Joe
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Re: Security of these sites... [Re: Cid_Lives]
#489976 - 10/20/10 10:09 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's what will keep you from getting busted. IMO
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King Koopa
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Re: Security of these sites... [Re: Farmer Joe]
#489977 - 10/20/10 10:25 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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It will not. Do you really think you can stomp the DEA with anonymizers? Anyone with any knowledge of net+ can trace IPs. It's not science.
And if there were some type of law enforcement watching the growery, by law they can get information from the Admins with a warrant.
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Alcoholics Anonymous is a fellowship of men and women who share their experience, strength and hope with each other that they may solve their common problem and help others to recover from alcoholism.
The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking. There are no dues or fees for A.A. membership; we are self-supporting through our own contributions. A.A. is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organization or institution; does not wish to engage in any controversy; neither endorses nor opposes any causes. Our primary purpose is to stay sober and help other alcoholics to achieve sobriety.
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King Koopa
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Re: Security of these sites... [Re: King Koopa]
#489981 - 10/20/10 10:53 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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BACKTRACE
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Alcoholics Anonymous is a fellowship of men and women who share their experience, strength and hope with each other that they may solve their common problem and help others to recover from alcoholism.
The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking. There are no dues or fees for A.A. membership; we are self-supporting through our own contributions. A.A. is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organization or institution; does not wish to engage in any controversy; neither endorses nor opposes any causes. Our primary purpose is to stay sober and help other alcoholics to achieve sobriety.
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Farmer Joe
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Re: Security of these sites... [Re: King Koopa]
#490090 - 10/21/10 03:07 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I agree that is a possibility.
I really meant that it will help keep you from getting busted. But It came out wrong.
But if I had a room filled with plants in my house....a grow log would be the last thing on my mind. 3-4 in my closet is a different story.....
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NobodyImportant
Science Is Subculture
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Re: Security of these sites... [Re: Farmer Joe]
#490123 - 10/21/10 05:12 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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yea i wouldnt be worried about them going through all that trouble to catch the smallest fish in the cult game, never know though
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still beLIEve
State Property..Again
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they're everywhere.
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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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